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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: rdbandkab on July 09, 2018, 10:07:23 AM
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Looking through various sites on the web, it looks like the fuel capacity for the 06 big Breva is 6.3 gals. (found some specs showing 6.1 also)
Anywho.... I used this weekend to refresh my brain on the range and miles per gal I can expect on the Breva 1100.
I wasn't going for the all time mileage record, so with bike on sidestand (not on centerstand), I filled the tank up to, but not touching the plastic splash guard. We then proceeded to do a nice 2-up ride through the hills of eastern Ohio. We had the side bags attached and the GIVI trunk filled with water, munchies, and a rather large tire inflation device - (Dynaplug kit on the way!)
I tried to included a mixed variety of roads...some highway runs at 70mph, some smaller interstate runs in the 55mph zone, and the remaining roads were 2 lanes through farm land.
I stopped to top the tank off when the TRIPometer clicked 225 miles. At this point, the gauge was showing the needle just touching the red zone. I was able to add 4.4 gallons to fill the tank to roughly the same level.
I'm thinking I was getting around 50-52 miles per gallon while riding 2up...or possibly 300 miles out of a tankful. Calculations show more than that, but I won't push my luck with my better-half riding pillion.
All figures aprox (close as I could get them) :thumb:.
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That's great milage for a Breva. I usually get between 39-43, I have never seen anything over 45. I ride solo, and usually a bit faster, but I'd be pretty darn pleased if I were you.
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best I ever got on mine was riding two up, with luggage along the Natchez Trace from Tupelo to Vicksburg. Got 60 mpg, but the speed limit is only 50 mph.
riding solo from Baton Rouge to Biloxi along the coast road, 55 mph, I got about 58mpg.
Speed clearly affects mileage for me. weight no so much. If I am running +60mph mileage drops off pretty fast. I usually get 39-40 around town pretty regular.
My gas gauge doesn't work very well, its usually on the E by 100 miles. when the light comes on it takes 5 gallons to fill up.
Old Head
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ok something kinda odd here, I normally get close to 50mpg how I ride every day. Now the strange thing.
When I lived in South Dakota whatever the readout was on the dash I could always add 5-8 and that would be the actual MPG. ok so 33000 miles of add 5-8 and there it is. Now I move to Arkansas and the dash readout is always damn close. QUESTION is "what changed"? The roads are very twisty here and I'm about 1000 ft. lower in elevation here. Anyway I get around 48-50mpg here just like I did in South Dakota its just now the readout is correct?? oh yea, 2007 Breva 1100
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The best ever for me was 48.5, all on back roads, without the side bags. With the bags on and a mix of city/highway, or just highway at 75 or so, I generally get 43.5. I suspect my mileage suffers from the "occasional" full throttle runs to hear the glorious Guzzi noise.
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ok something kinda odd here, I normally get close to 50mpg how I ride every day. Now the strange thing.
When I lived in South Dakota whatever the readout was on the dash I could always add 5-8 and that would be the actual MPG. ok so 33000 miles of add 5-8 and there it is. Now I move to Arkansas and the dash readout is always damn close. QUESTION is "what changed"? The roads are very twisty here and I'm about 1000 ft. lower in elevation here. Anyway I get around 48-50mpg here just like I did in South Dakota its just now the readout is correct?? oh yea, 2007 Breva 1100
Guzzi's love elevation and heat===== much better MPG on Both my 1400T and my California EV :thumb: :thumb:
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I envy you guys that get over 40 MPG. On my commute on my EVT, ELDO and HD, all get right about 40MPG. They all use 2.8-3.1 US gal for 120 miles. To be clear, all of them can vary on the gallons used for the 120 miles.
I just had a conversation with a shop that's been working on Guzzi for many, many years. He said that for my type of commute, 40 MPG is the perfect number. Not too lean, not too rich. He also said that if I was to run all of them on the same commute at 50 mph instead of 70-75 mph, I would probably get closer to 50 mpg.
Tom
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Norge will do 500 km to a tank if ridden gently since Beetling.
470 k at realistic speeds but will be dry by then.
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The incredible thing is the variation of range according to use and weather, my breva 11 would have gone over 300 miles to a tankful on my trip to mandello, long steady throttle days in great weather. Commuting to work (6 miles in each direction) in english winter cold misery results in the fuel level light comes on at as little as 100 miles, unbelievable variation undoubtedly caused by the electronics controlling the fuel mixture in the cold weather, give me carbs and a manual choke any day.
John
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The incredible thing is the variation of range according to use and weather, my breva 11 would have gone over 300 miles to a tankful on my trip to mandello, long steady throttle days in great weather. Commuting to work (6 miles in each direction) in english winter cold misery results in the fuel level light comes on at as little as 100 miles, unbelievable variation undoubtedly caused by the electronics controlling the fuel mixture in the cold weather, give me carbs and a manual choke any day.
John
Or a Beetle map..
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The incredible thing is the variation of range according to use and weather, my breva 11 would have gone over 300 miles to a tankful on my trip to mandello, long steady throttle days in great weather. Commuting to work (6 miles in each direction) in english winter cold misery results in the fuel level light comes on at as little as 100 miles, unbelievable variation undoubtedly caused by the electronics controlling the fuel mixture in the cold weather, give me carbs and a manual choke any day.
John
Fuel Injection solves the problem of cold starting by adding fuel instead of reducing air flow (choke) so inevitably more fuel is consumed. Also unlike carbs the mapping again adds fuel to compensate for colder denser air, hitting fuel consumption.
Where I live, basically at sea level, with riding temperatures between 10-25C there is no need to change the mixture but of course the bike is mapped by the factory for world wide use. I have reduced the compensation in the air temperature/pressure map table but can't do much about the warm up table so
short journeys are still heavier on fuel than a manual choked carb set up but that's progress for you I suppose.
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That's great milage for a Breva. I usually get between 39-43, I have never seen anything over 45. I ride solo, and usually a bit faster, but I'd be pretty darn pleased if I were you.
I remember when I got my 1100 Breva. After a couple of late model LeMans, Rosa Mandello that averaged low 30's and maybe 40 mpg on a trip my breva would alway get in the low 50's. I thought Guzzi finally got this FI right. But Alas it was too heavy and too top heavy for me so it was shipped down the hiway
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When I had my B11, I averaged 44 MPG commuting in warm weather to 50 MPG on longer rides (again in warm weather, defined as 60 degrees F and above).
In cold weather (30-45 F) those numbers reduced to as low as 38 MPG for commuting, and 42-43 MPG for longer rides.
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I wonder what this addition will do to mileage.. (non-stock part) I know it really helped audio!
Probably shed 4kg too.
(https://s8.postimg.cc/qnvkyp9tx/mivv.jpg)
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I wonder what this addition will do to mileage.. (non-stock part) I know it really helped audio!
Probably shed 4kg too.
(https://s8.postimg.cc/qnvkyp9tx/mivv.jpg)
I don't think it will make a blind bit of difference without changing the mapping.
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I don't think it will make a blind bit of difference without changing the mapping.
Good! Because I think the Norge map is working a treat, and I LOVE the great new sound I'm getting. Freaking ballzy without being too loud....
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Hallo, my fuel mileage are better after the change of the temperature sensor support. I have checked the original but I have cracked it. My fuel mileage was 15/16 km liter , after the craked (I have repaired with loctite) mileage was 12/13 km/l Now with not the original support 18 km/l !
Excuse for mi poor english, ciao.
Fabio
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I never really paid much heed to fuel consumption figures myself.
Just fill it up when it gets low, (which it rarely does..!)
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I seem to mostly get between 35 and 39 mpg (US gallons) on my Breva Sport 1200, as an average, based on the dash. It seems to be a little bit better when doing the math based on putting gas in it, and mileage covered. I do see numbers in the high 40's when going down the road at a steady throttle. Short trips around town, below 10 degrees F, and my mileage can drop into the mid/high 20's, which seems crazy. Just had a full tune-up at the dealer (10,000 km service) so I will see if the number improves. Adding a K&N airbox filter, didn't make much difference. Adding a slip-on made it a bit worse than stock, but removing the decibel reducer upped it to slightly better than stock. It's a bit hard to judge everything as the Sport has a different map, and mileage seems sensitive to temperature.
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Just a reminder. If one really wants to know exact fuel mileage do not trust your speedometer, as they are known to be off and sometimes significantly! Use a GPS for the milage ridden and divide your gallons, exactly not rounded off, into your miles, not rounded off, then you will know the truth. If you can handle the truth! :)
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Interesting - Fuelly.com has 17 Breva 1100s participating, with a total of 43,000 miles between them. Average for the fleet is in the mid 30s. The 2006s average 34.7 and the 2007s show 39.5
Obviously, YMMV
jdg