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I've got them broke down ...
« on: May 27, 2016, 01:24:28 PM »
 ... well , maybe not a Harley Davidson blues . With apologies to Canned Heat .


 All of this "appliance MC" and character talk got me thinking about the best and WORST places and situations to be broken down in . Obviously if you lived to talk about it ... Tell us a story folks .

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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2016, 03:23:42 PM »
Never have. <shrug> Now, I *did* have a nasty crash and burn when one of those stupid fuel crossovers apparently pulled apart, so I guess that would qualify.
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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2016, 03:33:00 PM »
That qualifies Chuckie , that qualifies  :shocked:

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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2016, 03:36:35 PM »
Well, the stator on the Tigger decided to crap out on me @ the Virginia national a few years ago. (I'm from Missouri) I bought an extra battery, hooked it up to my buddy Tim's trailer lights and swapped out the dead battery for the charged one at gas stops. In other words, a good old Moto Guzzi Strada pulled my ass out of a bind! But I did get to ride Deal's gap and the BRP and attend the VA rally on that trip with no problems until the stator quit and the power went out in the entire eastern United States. Piece of CAKE!!

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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2016, 03:36:35 PM »

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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2016, 05:01:14 PM »
C'mon, Dusty...with so many of us ready to get on the road, you want a breakdown thread??  Bad juju, man.... :boozing:

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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2016, 05:04:34 PM »
C'mon, Dusty...with so many of us ready to get on the road, you want a breakdown thread??  Bad juju, man.... :boozing:

 You guys will either get there and back , or not  :evil: Actually I was looking for confirmation that even when after a break down , you will still survive and get home  :bike-037:
 
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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2016, 05:14:37 PM »
Holy shit chuck! I'm surprised that it didn't blow up!!

So you were just riding along and felt the heat and emergency stop and egress?

Just starting into a left corner and it was suddenly like glare ice. It *instantly* went down, I saw the left crash bar touch the chip and seal, sparks, and WHUMP. By this time I was thinking WTF, but maybe better get ready for a crash. Doubled up my fists to keep from breaking fingers, crossed my arms over my chest, and by this time I was on the chip and seal sliding along side the burning bike. Slid about 50-60 feet face down. Unfortunately, Dorcia blew up her wrist from trying to stop her fall.  :sad: Other than that, the riding gear did it's job, but was trashed. Oh, a knuckle burned through the Elkskin Ropers. I won't wear gloves without hard knuckle protection after that.
The only thing that makes sense is the fuel crossover failed at the crimped connection, poured fuel on the tire, and the rest is history. Just a series of unfortunate things at the exactly wrong time. If we'd been going straight, the engine would just have died when the float bowls emptied.
I posted a warning about the fuel crossovers after easily pulling one apart at the crimped connections. I strictly use the dual banjos now.
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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2016, 05:16:06 PM »
You guys will either get there and back , or not  :evil: Actually I was looking for confirmation that even when after a break down , you will still survive and get home  :bike-037:
 
 Dusty

Ok. I could have ridden home if I had a bike.  :evil: :smiley:
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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2016, 05:36:17 PM »
I always had trouble with my FLH rear brake, the infamous banana  caliper. Pivot bushing got sloppy right away. never wore even.  For some unfathomable reason I decided to change the rear pads the night before we left on a trip. A few miles from home, something just didn't feel right, and as I was descending a steep hill, the rear brake pedal sank to the boards. I turned and told my wife,"We just lost the rear brake". Her reply, "My leg feels like it's on fire". I look down, sure enough, the entire rear of the bike is engulfed in flames.
   I get to the bottom of the hill, jump off, rip off my jacket, and start beating the lames out with it. Miraculously, I was able to extinguish the flames, I never knew leather could burn. The whole right side bag was gone but for a shred. "Her" bag, by the way. Purse, flashlight, everything gone. I looked up the hill and could see a trail of debris; smoking, half melted batteries, bits of charred leather. Then it seemed at that exact moment, everyone I know happened to drive by.
     The wife's jaw hit her knee when I told her to get back on the bike, we're going home. It'll still drive I told her, and we still have a front brake. But no trip to PA today.
    When I got home, and wheeled into my basement workshop, I discovered the water heater had given up the ghost.
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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2016, 07:28:52 PM »
I don't get stranded, I ride a Moto Guzzi Guzzi Norge.

They are called delays, detours and unplanned re-routes.
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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2016, 11:14:33 AM »
WOW luck was with you for the survival part.
I'm with you about the dual banjoes and I have one tube a bit shorter that the other so I won't lose both cylinders together.  Yipee

Great pic!

:-)

Yeah, I'd rather be lucky than good.  :smiley: Don't know why it didn't blow up. The Kid and Nora were following us and said he came around the corner, saw both of us on the ground about 10 feet from the bike which had flames shooting 10 feet in the air. Nora's a nurse and said, "Normally, we shouldn't move Dorcia, but let's get the hell out of here.."  :smiley:
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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2016, 03:04:27 PM »
Truly epic....

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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2016, 09:35:57 AM »
Some guys are just hard on equipment , Chuck, but that is impressive!
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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2016, 06:45:20 AM »
Riding through hurricane Fran on the way to the Virginia rally circa 1996. Rode into 4ft of water at 50mph.  Hydro locked the engine when water was ingested through the intake.
Bent conrod,  shattered piston and wrist pin, bent valve. 
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Then Virginia rep Ron Komoroski to the rescue.  Came back up to the rally site and towed my to his house where I crabbed the frame and replaced bolts with whatever he had. Was on my way back to Wisconsin on Tuesday afternoon.
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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2016, 07:23:14 AM »
Chris,
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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2016, 12:02:56 PM »
Do hitch hiking stories count?
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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2016, 12:33:40 PM »
Oh. Just remembered another one. Apparently didn't get all the di-electric grease out of the rescue Strada's wiring. Hot day at the Virginia rally. Grease apparently played havoc with a relay. Had to ride bitch behind John Henry back to civilization..  :smiley:
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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2016, 12:46:54 PM »
The wife & I are riding our CX100 on uncharted roads over 100 miles from home.   This road we are on is actually an old historic country road with some houses along it.  We come to a steel bridge over a river, but approaching the bridge is a kink in the road so you go on the bridge leaned over.  We no sooner get on the bridge and it feels like ice because the grated? steel is wet and we go down on the right side of the CX.   The bike slides and we slide `till we stop, relatively unhurt.  The bike slides further than us and 2 young boys at the other end of the bridge say, "hey mister, your bike is still running."  I slip slide up to it and sure enough, it's idling on the left cylinder.  I turn it off.  We upright the bike and surmise the damage.  Right brake lever, spark plug, cylinder head fins, head guard gone, brake lever bent.  All parts that broke off dropped thru the bridge into the river below.   We are able to push the bike off the bridge and off the road.  I didn't expect this to happen and had little $ on me.

Some  people in a car let us use their cell phone and I call up AAA towing.   They say, we can't help you with you MC but we can have a tow tuck take you to town.  No thanks.

Then by chance we meet some people who have a house near the bridge who only use it on the weekend and they live in the Bay area and it's Sunday an when they go home in awhile they can go right by our house and gives us a lift.  So we do that and later take our PU and get the CX and bring it home. 

After this incident I got a crashbar for the CX made in europe.  :wink:

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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2016, 01:39:23 PM »
So if you did THAT to your ride in 2010, how far along is the rebuild?

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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2016, 04:58:30 PM »
So if you did THAT to your ride in 2010, how far along is the rebuild?


If you are referring to my CX, it sits as I have many other bikes/scooters since then to ride instead.   I even put nickasil cylinders/pistons on it and ran them for about 10K miles. It needs an alternator fix but that's about it.

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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2016, 05:19:36 PM »

Duct tape. Aisle 42.

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« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2016, 06:17:50 PM »
The exhaust looks changed.  :azn:

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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2016, 10:11:41 PM »
Penderic, I'm beyond convinced an am now a confirmed believer. There are three possibilities.

1st
You Sir, spent the entirety of your waking hours searching the net for pics to use in appropriate places on WG.

2nd.
You are in fact a vast consortium of posters who have contrived through arcane methods, to post only that type of item under that combined handle.

3rd.
With their vast resources,  Penderic is the user name for the C.I.A. (who have nothing better to do as their function is duplicated by other agencies.)
« Last Edit: May 30, 2016, 10:12:31 PM by johnr »
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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2016, 03:46:02 AM »

Thankyou John!

Number 1 is the right one. Over the years I spent a lot of late nights working on computer graphic files for various customer's projects, (mostly vector based signage stuff), and I collected a lot of interesting pics along the way.

Many pics I came across during late night internet searches that were just funny or unusual I would save out of habit.


I like to share. Glad you guys like em!  :bow:

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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2016, 09:43:06 AM »
Time I contribute one to this thread.

I've come back here to the beginning to apologise. I had never intended this to be such a big post but the story just kept flitting off my fingers. I just hope it remains at least readable.

Nothing as dramatic as some of the other stories here, just a puncture. No big deal, but  the incident that came to mind did have a couple of 'features'.

 I was on a trip down the West Coast of the South Island on my BSA R3. It's an absolutely  glorious ride in good weather. That though, the good weather, usually requires blood sacrifices to the gods duly accompanied by a little dance with one hand in the air and the tongue held in exactly the right position while reciting a poem about a boy standing on a burning deck using the Maori language. It was good on this occasion.

There was a certain tenseness to this trip.

I had discovered some time previous that my bike had a fault. I had  taken the rear wheel apart so I could have the  hub chromed and it had been re-spoked by an 'expert' who used to work in the Triumph factory.  Despite protesting that he knew all there was to know about spoking wheels, he used the wrong pattern! It turned out he had worked as a test rider, not as a spoker of wheels.

Now BSA in their infinite wisdom had used a Triumph 500 wheel in the Rocket 3.  It wasn't as good nor nearly as strong as BSAs own wheels and I'm not sure why they did it. A concurrence with the Trident perhaps. I presume they had their reasons. It was OK, normally, but it couldn't withstand the wrong spoke pattern! It started breaking spokes in the rear wheel.

The bike however was my only vehicle so I put off having it respoked for a while. It was OK as long as I didn't get more than three broken spokes. More than three I found became six very quickly and then you were risking the entire thing unzipping.

I had the back wheel collapse on me once during this time when applying some torque in order to clear a V8 that wanted my space from the lights. But less than three broken I could live with for a while until the stars aligned for the full wheel rebuild. 

I had to keep replacing the spokes of course which was do-able while I was in the city.  However when with great glee, relief and gusto I set out from Christchurch on the trip in question I didn't really think about how far I would be from suppliers of spokes, nor for how long. I didn't take enough spares.

By the time I was riding down the West Coast I was doing so gently and dodging bumps feeling much as you would with an eight months pregnant girl on the back. (That's another thing I had experienced for a while.  )

Now the West Coast is remote.  This may seem a contradiction in terms to those of you that inhabit far larger lands, but there are plenty of places down that coast, especially as you get further South,  where you are a long way from anybody or any thing, let alone any kind of specialist. 

I remember waiting with a friend (Jenny) at a camp ground at Lake Hawea once for a pair of lads on an old Matchless we had met up with  to turn up. They were pretty late and I was really very concerned for them indeed.  The area was remote enough that I was considering contacting the Police by the time they turned up.

Friend Jenny. (A much later than trip than that related here) It was her first time on a bike and she loved it.



It turned out that they had broken a primary chain. They had wandered up the first track they found thinking that there must be some thing or maybe someone that could help at the end of it. There is no guarantee of that at all in those parts but as it happens they  discovered an earth moving machine up there. They ripped a bit of chain off it and made it work.

On this trip by early evening I was approaching the bridge at the Gates of Haast. It was about 6pm as I recall.

Puncture!

"Damn" I said, and lots of other extremely unsavory words. I always carried a puncture repair kit, but a puncture inevitably involved lots of time, grease, skinned knuckles and many more naughty words.  There was nothing for it though but to settle down and get on with the job, so that's what I did.

The Gates of Haast bridge, where I had my puncture that evening. That part of the  road was gravel then. I was at the far end as we look at it.


All proceeded in due order and I found my hole in the tube. It hadn't been caused by a broken spoke either!  But then came the time to goo the patch on.

Guess what! My vulcanising goo had totally dried up! Help! It was as solid as a rock!

Now I was well stuck. I could not think of an answer to this. I considered stuffing the tyre with foliage but I had doubts about the practicality of this given the foliage available or if I could make it work at all. I was thinking about this when a car turned up. Hooray I am saved!

The car stopped. Well of course it would at that time in the evening with someone in obvious trouble. But the guy driving it was in a panic.  He was a tourist. I'm not sure where from. Possibly from one of the Pacific islands (small) or some heavily populated country. In any case he was totally freaked out by the distance he had come without seeing any signs of humanity and demanded to know where the next petrol station was.  He was going the opposite way to me and had no idea what lay ahead of him.

Without even attempting to ascertain my position he shot off in a shower of shit and small stones, leaving me staring down the road after him.  I did not think well of that man.

"Well" thinks I, " 'spose the best thing is to set up camp for the night and revisit the problem in the morning." I had decided that I needed to hitch hike my way to Wanaka and to buy the needful.  Whether that would take one day or two depended on the traffic and remained to be seen. Who knows? I might get lucky. There might even be a bus I could get back on, maybe.

The only plausible tent site was right up at the start of the bridge right beside the road. There was just room there for the tent and the bike.  It was a lonely place though and I was feeling it a bit. I somewhat wished the Lady Margie had been able to come on this trip, but then again, given the condition of the bike at the time it was probably best that she was unable to.

The lady Margie


I was about to get the tent out when a ute came winding up the hill.  At that time in the evening that was falling into miracle territory! He stopped too.

The situation was discussed but having a spare wheel, of course the guy didn't have any patching stuff. He did however have a tube of Butyl Mastic. (used in building). Maybe, just maybe it would hold the patch in place during reassembly and maybe it would stay put with air pressure behind it at least until I got to Wanaka.

We gave it a go. Everything was reassembled and I hooked up the spark plug pump I carried. The patch held air! We weren't sure how long it would last though so he sent me off ahead of him so he could pick me up if it failed down the road, and I tried to get to Wanaka before it did.

Success! I duly got myself to a motel in Wanaka. The tyre was flat in the morning.

I bought the needed goo from a pushbike shop and fixed it  but of course there weren't any spoke trees growing anywhere.  I was over my 3 spoke limit too, by quite a margin.

I was only 176 miles from my parents place in Invercargill at this point. 176 miles with a fair dollop of twisties, bumps and hollows in it but still only 176 miles. Given the nature of the road an the now very gingerly approach I would have to take to it it should take between four and six hours.

Invercargill was my ultimate destination for this trip. It was also a place where I could get that back wheel permanently and properly fixed.  It was time for the final leg, excluding all further exploration, sight-seeing or dallying about in nice places.  I choose the Crown Range route. Lots of climbing, tight curves  and bumps to try and dodge but the alternative route was 30 miles longer. I wasn't sure if I was making the right choice though.  I would be limping along. 

I got about 105 miles, to a place called Fairlight before I got another puncture in the back wheel. This time if was a broken spoke.  I must admit that by then I was expecting it. Things had not been feeling good.

When I looked there were only three spokes left on one side of the wheel. (the other side had nearly all of its ones) No amount of care or coddling was going to allow me to ride this bike any further. I hid it among some trees went out on the road and stuck my thumb out.

Two hours later I was still there. I have never hitch hiked for the fun of it. Only because something had happened and I needed to get someplace, so I wasn't feeling good about the time going by. Also, being in bike gear probably doesn't advertise you as the ideal passenger to pick up. Something had to be done.

I pulled the bike out of hiding and stood beside it with my thumb out. Then, the very first car that came along screeched to a halt and managed to squeeze me in among all the luggage and junk they had in the back seat. Having the bike beside me had changed the entire scenario for them. I was obviously having trouble. I hid the bike in the trees again before we left.

They were only going as far as Lumsden though so I had another three hour thumb extension exercise there, but this time with no bike to pull out of a hat. 50 miles to go.

This time I was standing opposite a Tea Rooms (Cafe these days) so I started watching people coming and going from it.  I spotted a couple who stopped who were traveling South, went over to the Tea Rooms  and approached them, explained the situation and asked them if they had room in their car for me. A bit cheeky perhaps but it worked. Just over an hour later I walked through my parents door for the first time in months.

"Hi Pops! Your trailer got a warrant on it?"  Three more hours and the bike was home too. I estimate that between ten and twelve hours had passed since the time I left Wanaka.

That wheel was re-spoked by a guy who really did know his onions! I wonder if he is still around? Those skills are a bit rare. In any case, it gave no further trouble in the entire considerable amount of time the bike remained in my ownership.

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The Rocket 3 broke down three times in in the years that I owned it.
I classify a break down as a mechanical fault that brings you to a stop, and do not include other things that need doing or fixing from time to time, nor accidents.
Two of these breakdowns were my own fault and this was one of them.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2016, 04:16:51 AM by johnr »
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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2016, 10:11:45 AM »
 Great story Johnr . Yeah , the triples were bitsas for sure .

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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2016, 10:30:07 AM »
1973 Harley sporster decided to die halfway across the Coronado bridge in San Diego bay.  Luckily I coasted to the toll booth turn-around and called a tow truck.  Could of been really bad.

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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2016, 11:19:33 AM »
John R,  good story!
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Re: I've got them broke down ...
« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2016, 12:39:45 PM »
John R,  good story!

He *can* tell a tale..  :smiley:
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