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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2018, 04:43:55 PM »
I test rode this at a dealer. I hated it.It did not feel like a motorcycle to me.I could not get back to the dealer soon enough.But it maybe just be me. Fifty five years of bike riding.

I like the bigger engine because there is no axle between the front wheels, it's more tractable on uneven surfaces.  I usually hold the throttle open and work the brakes for quicker acceleration.  I didn't expect it to be a motorcycle but then again I have scooters in the fleet too.  Sidecar set-up?
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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2018, 04:54:50 PM »
Three wheeler

I plan on going sidecar first then adult trike when I have to give up my license.



My biggest problem will be getting a leg over it and not forgetting how wide it is.
OH! You are supposed to lean to THAT side in a turn? :grin:

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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2018, 05:39:19 PM »
You do the same with a hack.
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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2018, 08:30:35 PM »
Guzzi riding geezer to Newfoundland by Burgman (heading out tomorrow). No, I haven't suddenly become mentally or physically infirm - the Burgman is simply the best and most comfortable two-up long distance tourer in my stable. And yes it rockets up to 100mph + in a blink. I'm oddly excited about it. Especially the return trip which may be the long way round...

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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2018, 08:36:41 PM »
Guzzi riding geezer to Newfoundland by Burgman (heading out tomorrow). No, I haven't suddenly become mentally or physically infirm - the Burgman is simply the best and most comfortable two-up long distance tourer in my stable. And yes it rockets up to 100mph + in a blink. I'm oddly excited about it. Especially the return trip which may be the long way round...

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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2018, 04:21:26 AM »
Guzzi riding geezer to Newfoundland by Burgman (heading out tomorrow). No, I haven't suddenly become mentally or physically infirm - the Burgman is simply the best and most comfortable two-up long distance tourer in my stable. And yes it rockets up to 100mph + in a blink. I'm oddly excited about it. Especially the return trip which may be the long way round...

Nick

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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2018, 04:35:06 AM »
Just to add another data point in the capable large scooter department....

Yamaha Tmax....sport spec suspension and brakes on these models, and a complete sales flop.

https://westernmass.craigslist.org/mcy/d/2016-yamaha-max-tmax/6672320723.html



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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2018, 05:13:22 AM »
Just to add another data point in the capable large scooter department....

Yamaha Tmax....sport spec suspension and brakes on these models, and a complete sales flop.

https://westernmass.craigslist.org/mcy/d/2016-yamaha-max-tmax/6672320723.html






At that price, I can see why it was a sales flop. 
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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2018, 06:38:06 AM »
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Y o u  c a n t  t o u r  w i t h  t h a t  d o n t  y o u  k n o w.....!?!? :popcorn:

Apparently you can Chuck. Already 120 miles this morning before breakfast at a steady 70 mph. Smooth and comfortable.

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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2018, 07:12:28 AM »
... I have a friend who has a black 150 Vespa like yours. I rode it a few years ago. He tells me that he doesn't feel safe over 55mph.

thanks.  Keep in mind the 150�s are the small frame, �very different.  The large frames were introduced about ten years ago as their touring models (grandturismo) and are quite a bit larger.  I actually enjoy passing sports cars on the freeway with it, they drop their frappe-lapa-chinos and get this WTF look.
Then again, I am nuts.

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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2018, 01:07:18 PM »
Gearman, I don't know where you're located, but this seems a reasonable option, in Chicago

http://www.motoworkschicago.com/default.asp?page=xPreOwnedInventoryDetail&id=5705644&p=1&s=Year&d=A&t=preowned&fr=xPreOwnedInventory

'09 Burgman 650, $3500 ask



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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2018, 06:25:26 PM »
I am in New orleans. My son lives in chicago though.This is a nice one with abs and electric mirrors.I was thinking I wanted a white one. Black is pretty though but show the dirt. I found a white one also.

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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2018, 07:03:42 PM »
Total mileage for the day: 683 (1100 kms). The Burgman is a wonderful motorcycle....bette r than many actually, and fun and comfortable to ride. The only let down is the minimal fuel tank (15 litres) which gives considerably less than 200 mile range.


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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2018, 07:17:52 PM »
Total mileage for the day: 683 (1100 kms). The Burgman is a wonderful motorcycle....bette r than many actually, and fun and comfortable to ride. The only let down is the minimal fuel tank (15 litres) which gives considerably less than 200 mile range.


Can you see with those low mirrors?

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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2018, 07:30:33 PM »
Can you see with those low mirrors?


No problem. My fingertips are visible at the top of the mirror. Everything else is clear rear view.

edit...and for anyone shoter than my 6'2' they would be completely clear rear view
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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
« Reply #45 on: August 16, 2018, 07:57:52 PM »
Late to the party but is a CanAm out of the question?
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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
« Reply #46 on: August 16, 2018, 08:33:05 PM »
Total mileage for the day: 683 (1100 kms). The Burgman is a wonderful motorcycle....bette r than many actually, and fun and comfortable to ride. The only let down is the minimal fuel tank (15 litres) which gives considerably less than 200 mile range.



I don't know if I could ride something I couldn't grip with my legs. 
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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
« Reply #47 on: August 16, 2018, 10:47:22 PM »
Something the wife told me once.  😱😁
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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
« Reply #48 on: August 17, 2018, 04:14:04 AM »
Total mileage for the day: 683 (1100 kms). The Burgman is a wonderful motorcycle....bette r than many actually, and fun and comfortable to ride. The only let down is the minimal fuel tank (15 litres) which gives considerably less than 200 mile range.



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Only 683? See what I mean you can't even get a decent 700 mile day in... :popcorn:
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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
« Reply #49 on: August 17, 2018, 05:04:31 AM »
Beating a dead horse one more time, here is the Piaggo BV model but in a used 500cc version. Nice and at the right price, too..probably can't do a 700 mile day on this either.... :grin:

https://vermont.craigslist.org/mcy/d/piaggio-bv500/6672857845.html






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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
« Reply #50 on: August 17, 2018, 05:22:45 AM »
Fellas , I had some serious balance issues , it doesn't matter whether it is a MoPed or a Gold Wing , the motorcycle can't solve the problem .

 Sorry Gearman , I know you really want to ride , and it is truly unfortunate that balance problems are preventing you from doing so , but until you get that problem sorted my best advice is stay away from anything that will fall over .

 Dusty

  Exactly... The older scooters feel very scary to me , like sitting on a chair rather than feeling part of the machine. Maybe newer scooters are different.......... ........
 I'm in good shape for 71 but I would be fooling myself to think my riding skills haven't deteriorated ever so slightly. I notice slow speed riding on the  limited steering lock Monster are just a bit challenging. On the other hand, riding the 79 Triumph that weighs the same as the Ducati,  It feels like an experienced dance partner at low speeds...Hmmmm If the OP can kick start a bike, an old Brit might be the ticket...And you'll always be busy working on it... :grin:

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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
« Reply #51 on: August 17, 2018, 06:50:55 PM »
Total mileage for the day: 683 (1100 kms). The Burgman is a wonderful motorcycle....bette r than many actually, and fun and comfortable to ride. The only let down is the minimal fuel tank (15 litres) which gives considerably less than 200 mile range.


I get 52 mpg with my Burg 650 in the summer time, and about 49 mpg in the winter, here in the Phoenix area. It will get more than 200 miles on a full tank.
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Re: Suzuki bergman vs Moto guzzi convert
« Reply #52 on: August 17, 2018, 09:19:08 PM »
I would think pigtail Mp3
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