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I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« on: May 24, 2017, 09:58:18 PM »
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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2017, 10:17:52 PM »
"special" not the word I'd use.. those wheels look goofy, is that a 19 inch front? dump you into corners?
and the rims look like they come from an 883 Sportster..
 coffin shape tank isn't congruous to the smooth fairing.
maybe your being sarcastic? I can't tell from here..




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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2017, 12:53:59 AM »
Yeh, looks a bit ugly to me, needs a decent paint job at least

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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2017, 02:30:22 AM »
"special" not the word I'd use.. those wheels look goofy, is that a 19 inch front? dump you into corners?
and the rims look like they come from an 883 Sportster..
 coffin shape tank isn't congruous to the smooth fairing.
maybe your being sarcastic? I can't tell from here..
Not my taste at all, but yes a Sportster chassis and from my experience the wheels will be no problem at all.
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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2017, 07:11:20 AM »
Looks like an Avon fairing, they look good on the old Brits for which they were made, not so much for this one.   

Since there's no immediate esthetic appeal, any beauty it might acquire will be from many miles of actually being ridden on the roads ..... !

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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2017, 08:13:53 AM »
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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2017, 09:31:59 AM »
I wonder if this bike looks better in the flesh.  A friend of mine just got one of the newer Matchless bikes with the Rotax engine.  I had seen pictures of this bike over the years and generally disliked it but when I saw it up close I thought it looked pretty good.  Spoked 18 inch wheels and a little accent paint might make this bike into a good looker?
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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2017, 09:35:36 AM »
"special" not the word I'd use.. those wheels look goofy, is that a 19 inch front? dump you into corners?
and the rims look like they come from an 883 Sportster..
 coffin shape tank isn't congruous to the smooth fairing.
maybe your being sarcastic? I can't tell from here..

Nah I like it, the fairing is hand made from alloy, that takes some skill.

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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2017, 09:39:54 AM »
The fairing is elegant, the tank hideous. That's an easy fix.
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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2017, 09:47:58 AM »
Zero appeal here sorry. Looks wonky with the big front hoop/bitten off tail. A designer he is not.
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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2017, 09:51:19 AM »
Nah I like it, the fairing is hand made from alloy, that takes some skill.

 Yeah , hand hammering an entire fairing takes skill , although they did borrow from the Avon design as Lannis pointed out . Put some spoked wheels on it to tie the motif together maybe .

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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2017, 09:51:29 AM »
Special compared to a bucket of hemmoroids  :grin:
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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2017, 11:15:08 AM »
I think this fairing doesn't work for that bike. The seating position looks all wrong, so that the fairing is more  ostentatious display than useful addition. Too bad to see panel-beating skills put to such evil ends.

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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2017, 11:22:36 AM »
Not my cup of tea either, but would probably be fun to blast around town on...at least once... :rolleyes: :shocked: :laugh: :grin: :wink: :cool:
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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2017, 12:39:42 PM »
Yeah , hand hammering an entire fairing takes skill , although they did borrow from the Avon design as Lannis pointed out . Put some 17" supermoto spoked wheels on it to tie the motif together maybe .

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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2017, 01:00:14 PM »
They could make this and give Triumph a run for their money ....


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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2017, 02:06:03 PM »
I think the faring is the ugly. Not my kinda bike anyway.
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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2017, 02:17:14 PM »
They could make this and give Triumph a run for their money ....


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Oh man I wish you hadn't shown me that.   My heart started beating faster and my breath got shallow and I stared at the screen for an inordinate length of time.   

Now that has SO many elements that I like ....

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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2017, 09:03:33 PM »
They could make this and give Triumph a run for their money ....


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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2017, 07:27:54 AM »
Even the non Harley guys have to like this one.  The bike is so well balanced and not over the top.  I know very little about Harleys but it looks to me like this is mostly a stock Sportster with a few tasteful substitutions.  When I changed my T3 to a  Le Mans replica I changed the tank, seat, fenders and exhaust. From what I can see here it looks like the same things have been replaced?? I have seen Vincent like Harleys but they were not as nice as this one.
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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2017, 08:26:14 AM »
I had a look at their website and found an instagram feed https://www.instagram.com/buschandbusch/

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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2017, 09:23:07 AM »
Even the non Harley guys have to like this one.  The bike is so well balanced and not over the top.  I know very little about Harleys but it looks to me like this is mostly a stock Sportster with a few tasteful substitutions.  When I changed my T3 to a  Le Mans replica I changed the tank, seat, fenders and exhaust. From what I can see here it looks like the same things have been replaced?? I have seen Vincent like Harleys but they were not as nice as this one.

First thing I noticed was the footpegs and controls.   I could be comfortable on that, and the soles of my boots would NOT be the first thing you see as I'm riding toward you .... !

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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2017, 09:35:10 AM »
"special" not the word I'd use.. those wheels look goofy, is that a 19 inch front? dump you into corners?
and the rims look like they come from an 883 Sportster..
 coffin shape tank isn't congruous to the smooth fairing.
maybe your being sarcastic? I can't tell from here..

OEM 16 rear and 19 front.  Needs some 18-inch shouldered rim wire wheels.

Oh, and I agree, the coffinized peanut doesn't look right.  Needs a Storz road race fuel tank.
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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2017, 09:52:12 AM »
Oh man I wish you hadn't shown me that.   My heart started beating faster and my breath got shallow and I stared at the screen for an inordinate length of time.   

Now that has SO many elements that I like ....

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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2017, 10:00:10 AM »
  http://www.lainefamily.com/GB1200R.htm

One of you guys posted this some time ago. I like this one.
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« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2017, 10:13:44 AM »
They could make this and give Triumph a run for their money ....


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I'm tempted to start another thread, since this is hijacking the original one, but can anyone tell me/us authoritatively how to build this bike? Is it a stock Sportster frame (what range of years)? Can I buy the tank? (Where?) What about the apparent oil tank on the right side, is it functional or cosmetic? (Where can I buy it?) The seat? The exhaust? The rear sets?

That is, can money plus an internet connection obtain the pieces for this thing? Or is it a one-off, unreproducible except with skills I'll never develop?

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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2017, 02:42:30 PM »
I'm tempted to start another thread, since this is hijacking the original one, but can anyone tell me/us authoritatively how to build this bike?

1) Is it a stock Sportster frame (what range of years)?
2) Can I buy the tank? (Where?)
3) What about the apparent oil tank on the right side, is it functional or cosmetic? (Where can I buy it?) 4) The seat?
5) The exhaust?
6) The rear sets?

That is, can money plus an internet connection obtain the pieces for this thing? Or is it a one-off, unreproducible except with skills I'll never develop?

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1) 1991-2004 5-speed Evo Sportster.  The frame is stock, save for the rear fender brace that's been added.  Stock Sportsters have a brace on each side that goes straight back.
2) I've seen tanks like that.  They're out there.  Huge aftermarket.  "Google it!"
3) Sportsters are dry-sump and have always had an oil tank on the right, under the seat.  It's OEM.
4) Looks like a modified factory Sportster seat. 
5) Several companies have made 2:1 exhausts for Sportsters.  I used Super Trapp 2:1 on mine.
6) Several companies have made Sportster rearsets.  I used Storz Performance parts on mine.

A project like this is actually quite easy to accomplish, what with the HUGE aftermarket that supports these motorcycles.  All you need it $$$$ and a little bit of time...

BTW, those are Excel rims laced to OEM Sportster hubs.  Sizes look like 18".  (OEM HD are 16 and 19, and definitely not retro standard).  Woody's can fix up the wheels.

Fork is stock Sportster.  Fenders are generic (probably Triumph) aftermarket.  Shocks look like they're from Progressive.

Headlight and mounting ears are aftermarket.  Gauges have been relocated down and forward.

If you want to buy a nice 1990s Sportster for a project like this, look for a 1200-S.  They have adjustable suspension and nicer dual front brakes.  Plus the engine has got some Buell goodies on it from the factory.
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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2017, 02:54:21 PM »
 Rocker ,

 Moto really just needs a Goodman , are there any available still ?

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« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2017, 03:11:00 PM »
1) 1991-2004 5-speed Evo Sportster.  The frame is stock, save for the rear fender brace that's been added.  Stock Sportsters have a brace on each side that goes straight back.
2) I've seen tanks like that.  They're out there.  Huge aftermarket.  "Google it!"
3) Sportsters are dry-sump and have always had an oil tank on the right, under the seat.  It's OEM.
4) Looks like a modified factory Sportster seat. 
5) Several companies have made 2:1 exhausts for Sportsters.  I used Super Trapp 2:1 on mine.
6) Several companies have made Sportster rearsets.  I used Storz Performance parts on mine.

A project like this is actually quite easy to accomplish, what with the HUGE aftermarket that supports these motorcycles.  All you need it $$$$ and a little bit of time...

BTW, those are Excel rims laced to OEM Sportster hubs.  Sizes look like 18".  (OEM HD are 16 and 19, and definitely not retro standard).  Woody's can fix up the wheels.

Fork is stock Sportster.  Fenders are generic (probably Triumph) aftermarket.  Shocks look like they're from Progressive.

Headlight and mounting ears are aftermarket.  Gauges have been relocated down and forward.

If you want to buy a nice 1990s Sportster for a project like this, look for a 1200-S.  They have adjustable suspension and nicer dual front brakes.  Plus the engine has got some Buell goodies on it from the factory.

Minor correction but the last of the solidmount Sportsters was 2003.

If one was interested in building such a thing the 00-03 models would be the best donors if you planned on keeping things like the brakes (only years for 4-pot calipers), wheels (sealed wheel bearings you some need to manually repack at each tire change), and best of the electronics for those era machines.

Edit - yes A 1200S (Sportster Sport) would be the best donor as it would also include:

Dual front discs
Adjustable front and rear suspensions (including shocks with piggyback reservoirs)
Dual plug ignition
Better spec heads
And I believe hotter cams


And yes looks like a modified stock frame. The fender struts were cut off and that brace was added.

And I agree a lot of that would probably be available for purchase to simply bolt on.
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Re: I'm no fan of HD but this is something special!
« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2017, 03:13:01 PM »
Rocker ,

 Moto really just needs a Goodman , are there any available still ?

 Dusty

None have been for sale in a long time.  You're right, though.  It's the one.



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