Author Topic: Norge/Breva pannier locks  (Read 1563 times)

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Norge/Breva pannier locks
« on: March 29, 2017, 07:38:45 AM »
I've got the Norge panniers on my B11 and one of the lock barrels keeps coming out with the key

When in place it locks and unlocks as it should, but I assume something is worn/busted in the mechanism

Anyone experienced this before and got any pointers as to what might be amiss?

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Re: Norge/Breva pannier locks
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2017, 07:42:15 AM »


I thought there is a circlip that retains those in place?

Yes, I am avoiding Kathi's honey-do list by responding on (yet another) thing I know little about.   :thewife: :wink:

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Re: Norge/Breva pannier locks
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2017, 07:58:09 AM »
That's I would have expected too Bill but there's no sign of a grove so I'm a bit nonplussed

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Re: Norge/Breva pannier locks
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2017, 08:23:09 AM »
As much as I hate to contribute to Bill's sizable ego  :wink:........he may be correct.
Here is a picture of the "dirty" lock on my '07 Norge side cases.


and a slightly cleaner one
« Last Edit: March 29, 2017, 08:31:55 AM by Nick »

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Re: Norge/Breva pannier locks
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2017, 08:23:09 AM »

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Re: Norge/Breva pannier locks
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2017, 09:50:20 AM »
That part of it is all there on mine Nick.

Its the alloy barrel with the brass sticky out locking features that pulls out of "female locking bit" (see how good I am with descriptive text  :wink:) in the case that causing the problem.

Its almost like its been forced past some stop and now doesn't function properly but I'm damned if I can spot it!

But a picture paints a thousand words, so I'll try and get some pics tonight

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Re: Norge/Breva pannier locks
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2017, 10:54:09 AM »
That part of it is all there on mine Nick.

Its the alloy barrel with the brass sticky out locking features that pulls out of "female locking bit" (see how good I am with descriptive text  :wink:) in the case that causing the problem.

Its almost like its been forced past some stop and now doesn't function properly but I'm damned if I can spot it!

But a picture paints a thousand words, so I'll try and get some pics tonight

When I got my Norge bags they came with no lock cylinders from the factory. This was great as my 1200 Sport had come with 3 extra lock cylinders so I could have matching keys.
Installation was simply, the new lock cylinders just snapped into place. I have no idea what holds them in there but I can tell you that there was no fiddling with snap rings or anything else as part of the installation. I've always wondered what holds them in there.

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Re: Norge/Breva pannier locks
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2017, 11:03:57 AM »
I was under the impression that the smaller of the 2 circlips shown actually holds the barrel down

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Re: Norge/Breva pannier locks
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2017, 11:05:44 AM »
I was under the impression that the smaller of the 2 circlips shown actually holds the barrel down

My sizable ego indubitably persuaded you.   :grin:

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Re: Norge/Breva pannier locks
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2017, 01:06:33 PM »
And now with pictures





The red blobs are there to remind me where to stop

If I turn the key clockwise it comes to a stop, if I turn it anti-clockwise it just goes straight past the red mark and then the barrel can be pulled out.

If I had snail eyes on stalks I might be able to stick one down here and see what does what  :thumb:



This engages with a similar "T" at the bottom. There's no indication that its broken off



Its difficult to see here, but the second from bottom slot (RH end) doesn't have a sticky out brass lock piece. Trouble is I have no idea if it should do!!!

Any thoughts???
« Last Edit: March 29, 2017, 01:10:59 PM by tris »
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Re: Norge/Breva pannier locks
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2017, 05:22:45 PM »
I would think a locksmith is the right person to answer your question. I have a similar issue with one of my pannier locks, which is starting to need extra travel to move the latch piece and actually unlock the bag or take it off. However, I've been too lazy to do anything about it yet.
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Re: Norge/Breva pannier locks
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2017, 06:54:56 AM »
I MIGHT have sussed it :laugh:

https://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=46548

These are one of the few pictures that show images of the offending item

The bottom tumbler (??) on these stick out with the key in and mine barely does. That could be because
a) they're gunged up
b) worn out
c) spring has gone AWOL

If I'm lucky a touch of WD40 will take care of it. If not I might need a bit of silver solder or spring from somewhere

Watch this space, wife and dog are off to take care of a poorly stepson tomorrow night so I'll take a look and report back
« Last Edit: March 30, 2017, 08:26:32 AM by tris »
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Re: Norge/Breva pannier locks
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2017, 08:28:33 AM »
I MIGHT have sussed it :laugh:

https://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=46548

These are one of the few pictures that show images of the offending item

The bottom tumbler (??) on these stick out with the key in and mine barely does. That could be because
a) they're gunged up
b) worn out
c) spring has gone AWOL

If I'm lucky a touch of WD40 will take care of it. If not I might need a bit of silver solder or spring from somewhere

Watch this space, wife and dog are off to take care of a poorly stepson tomorrow night so I'll take a look and report back
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2005 Breva 1100 (non ABS) "Bruno" - now sold
1995 Cali 1100 - carby   "Dino" -now sold
1993 TW125 "POS" - Resting

 

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