Good answer Bulldog, not to the question I posed, but good answer.
No one is going to try to understand my point…
No one.
The concern is not how well or otherwise you can make the shift…..Does everyone get that ?
It is what the dogs are being asked to do when they engage, absolutely sweet bugger all to to with “technique”. Donald Duck could shift the gear and the dogs would still have the same task to perform.
As an aside, when you blip the throttle, is that on an upshift or downshift ?
On an upshift, what is the process you do for the blip and when you blip for the downshift, what do you do then ?
Can you detail what you do with the throttle for each ?
That is your hand, not foot.
I thought I answered you concern on 'wear and abuse of the dogs' by showing clearly that I have never seen an ounce of evidence that there is increased or significant wear of the dogs as evidenced in the fluuid changes over many miles and many bikes. Surely you would agree that if there was sever or significant wear on the dogs, it would be evidenced by metallic debris or residue (AKA spooge) on the drain plug magnet.
The fact that Donald Duck is a total klutz and famous for being uncoordinated aside
, My technique is generally the same.
Light pressure on shift lever up or down, adjustment of throttle to find that 'neutral' spot to let the dog slide easily, and you are in the next gear up or down.
As for throttle action, on upshifts, I release or let off the throttle just enough so that the lever moves easily. Once shift is complete, the throttle is reapplied and acceleration continues. Hard to describe downshifts, and frequently, the transmission easily cooperates by snicking into the lower gear. Its an instinctual thing, but I will often raise the throttle a bit to again, take pressure off the dogs so the shift happens smoothly.
For ME, this is for casual easy riding and ac/de-celleration, and key is setting the throttle so that the gear shift lever easily selects the next gear up or down.
I should also restate several other factors.
1. Properly adjusted throttle cables. Slack makes this messy and difficult
2. Properly adjusted shift lever. Efficient control is essential as this is a 'by feel' exercise. A loose or poorly adjusted shift lever with too much play, or poor toe engagement makes it more difficult.
3. CARC bikes are more difficult and can be a bit lurchy. Of my 4 CARC oriented bikes, they all have a very different personality and response.
4. I dont ALWAYS shift this way, but do so frequently enough, especially while moving at speed and shifting gears on non technical roads.
I've also stated that the CARC bikes, likely due to the large flywheels are the most difficult to do smoothly, especially on upshifts. The gear lever easily slides to the next gear, but if I dont feather and let off the throttle enough the bike will lurch or jump forward just as if you let off the clutch too fast on acceleration. It's not as big of a deal on downshifts. The Stornello and Baby Breva are no drama up or down.
I have friends who have and will never try clutchless shifting. That's fine by me, I'm not looking to make converts. But my experience in 40 years and high mileage riding has shown no deleterious effects on longevity or function. That's all I am saying.
I understand your concerns, and you are not wrong in principle, but you are also not right in your assertions that this is death and abuse to a transmission.
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