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General Discussion / Re: New V7 Sport
« Last post by Moparnut72 on Today at 01:34:58 PM »
It would help if there were someone here who has a '25 could clarify. When I was comparing my main concern was cruise control due to my messed up right hand. The dealer's description said the '25's had cruise control. Others have said that they don't. Those who said they do say it is activated by the start button as there is no dedicated button which the '26's have. I am talking about the Specials and Stones not the Sports. My Audace activated something after the motor was running with the start button, I can't remember for sure but I think it was riding modes. Anyway there is a lot of confusion over these later models. I don't care anymore just going to ride it.
kk
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General Discussion / Re: New V7 Sport
« Last post by Moparnut72 on Today at 01:17:37 PM »
It is hard to discern what differences there are between model years. The dealer I got my '26 from had this one on the floor but had three or four '25's in stock. I can't say what differences there are between the two from what has been published. Most of the literature for the '26 is the same as the '25's. The only thing that is obviously different is the exhaust system. The '26 has the cat underneath the bike rather than in the mufflers. Consequently the mufflers are different and a lot more aggressive sounding than the V7lll I had. I bought the '26 online and over the phone. They had it by door when I picked it up so I was unable to compare it side by side with the '25's on the floor. Since the '26 was marginally more costly than the '25's I went with the '26 plus I liked the white over the black '25's. AS far as horsepower goes I think Moto Guzzi either underrates theirs or Triumph overrates theirs. My V7 seems to be almost as powerful as the T120 I had. By the seat of my pants they are quite comparable. The V7 is rated at 67 and the T120 79. Anyway, no matter, I am very happy with the bike.
kk
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General Discussion / Re: New V7 Sport
« Last post by Kev m on Today at 01:01:55 PM »
Merry Christmas Kev, yes I thought for some reason that only the Sport got the 52mm injectors. I had read that in one of the reviews.

The special I rode was a 25 and my Sport is a 2026. So maybe the 2026 V7 engines are all the same, and the 25 Special and stone didn’t get the new ecu and injectors??

Anyway whatever the specs between trims, I love the color and the blacked out drivetrain on the Sport.
It “feels” about as fast as my ‘94 Ducati 900ss. That bike was dyno’ed at 72 hp at the rear wheel. So the MG has less HP but more torque 🤷🏻‍♂️.

Just in an interest of trying to help with the terminology.

Throttle body, not injectors.

The 38 mm or 52 mm dimension is talking about the diameter of the metered air passage with the throttle butterfly.

The injectors are much MUCH smaller and mount directly to the manifold by each intake port.

As for 25 vs 26, anything's possible. Maybe they only brought in old style Specials for 25 or maybe the first batch was actually the new ones and they actually carried the 25 model year VIN code. Or sometimes salesman are sloppy with such things.

Obviously if it was the old ones I would better understand the dramatic seat of the pants difference in feel. But the old ones didn't have multi mapping and was physically different lacking the other changes like the exhaust and other external changes that came on the new series.
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General Discussion / Re: New V7 Sport
« Last post by Rons on Today at 12:54:22 PM »
Merry Christmas Kev, yes I thought for some reason that only the Sport got the 52mm injectors. I had read that in one of the reviews.

The special I rode was a 25 and my Sport is a 2026. So maybe the 2026 V7 engines are all the same, and the 25 Special and stone didn’t get the new ecu and injectors??

Anyway whatever the specs between trims, I love the color and the blacked out drivetrain on the Sport.
It “feels” about as fast as my ‘94 Ducati 900ss. That bike was dyno’ed at 72 hp at the rear wheel. So the MG has less HP but more torque 🤷🏻‍♂️.

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General Discussion / Re: Horn test results. Should I buy louder ones?
« Last post by guzzisteve on Today at 11:37:40 AM »
Those are real loud and it's fine on way you're doing install.

2 of the Guzzi's I ride don't have a horn, just deleted at sometime in past, stuff stops working & you pitch it. Last was air horns on the sidecar rig.
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General Discussion / Re: Horn test results. Should I buy louder ones?
« Last post by nwguy on Today at 11:29:31 AM »
The wiring diagram for a 2000 Jackal that seems to apply to my Bassa shows my horn using a relay. I replaced all my relays with new ones from Dan Prunuske during my restoration. Despite this relay, I'm seeing from different installation instructions for compressor-driven horns that I'd need to use the new horn's supplied relay with heavier gauge wires. And then use one of the positive wires to my stock horns as the signal wire for the relay. Correct?

The Stebel Air Cannon's packaging shows dB levels measured from 4 inches and 6 feet away.

The Fiamm Freeway Blasters come in low and high, so I suppose I would buy one of each. Would these be a direct replacement? Or would they require a 30 amp relay and heavier gauge wires?
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General Discussion / Re: Horn test results. Should I buy louder ones?
« Last post by JJ on Today at 11:03:09 AM »
I went the route of adding an airhorn and throwing the original horns away.  The airhorn is much louder to my ears but have never made any measurements on it.

Usually, they are all about 139dB+ :thumb: :bow: :cool: :boozing:

I once blasted a distracted driver in a large white Cadillac SUV who cut me off, and it was so loud, he fumbled and dropped his cell phone to the floor!! :laugh: :grin:
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General Discussion / Re: New V7 Sport
« Last post by Kev m on Today at 10:52:15 AM »
As usual I feel like many are confused by Guzzi's tech info and sometimes contradictory releases coupled with misunderstandings.

@Rons - I can't imagine they would change the fuel injectors between two trim levels. How strong is your EFI operational understanding? Are you sure you're not just confusing the fact that the latest series of the V7 uses a larger throttle body (off the top of my head the GUI/M3 combined throttle body/ECU uses a 38mm throttle bore while the latest series uses a 52mm throttle body with separate ECU).

@Moparnut72 - I'm not 100% but I've never actually seen a "2025" V7 in North America, at least not of the new series, maybe they imported a few of the final previous series with the GUI/M3 and NONE of the new changes as 25 models. But like they have traditionally done with most new releases in the decades I've been riding Guzzis they announce a new model and the EU and markets other than North America get it first (2025 model year) and North America doesn't get it until later (2026 model year).

Now I haven't ridden the new series yet, but I'll bet one my smallblocks that the only real difference in power/feel between the Special and Sport (of the same series) is the "Sport" map that is available only on the Sport version. How big a difference that makes is probably very subjective.
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General Discussion / Re: Horn test results. Should I buy louder ones?
« Last post by StuCorpe on Today at 10:24:13 AM »
I went the route of adding an airhorn and throwing the original horns away.  The airhorn is much louder to my ears but have never made any measurements on it.
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Lots of good, reasonably-priced LOUD horns out there. Given the prevalence of distracted idiot drivers on the roads these days, I recommend new horns. WOLO, Farbin, Stebel, etc.
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