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Author Topic: Other sidestand modifications since we have a sidestand discussion going on.  (Read 399 times)
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« on: February 17, 2009, 12:49:21 PM »
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When I got my Daytona 1000 the sidestand had been modified by the dealer.  The RS had the sidestand modified.  The banana Sport came with the nub on which cut off and modified.  I need to do this modification to the other bike because of it retracting and damaging the tank.  The Sport with carbs came with the stand modified.  With the self-retracting option removed.  I have to reach down with my left arm to retract the sidestand before I take off.  No problems so far.  Tongue Roll Eyes  Any of you other Sporti does this mod?  I really don't like the Italian self-retracting sidestand.
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2009, 12:56:21 PM »
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Why don't you kick the stand up before mounting the bike?

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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2009, 03:03:49 AM »
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Never really thought about it.  I guess it's because I feel that I'm not ready to ride unless I'm astride the seat.
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2009, 10:06:27 AM »
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Hmmm,

  When I read the title of this thread, this was not the modification I expected.  The spring-loaded side stand damages your tank?  Where the hell is it mounted?


    I felt like my sport1100 was leaning a little too far, particularly whenever the crown of the road sloped away a bit. It just seemed like the pressure at the sidestand joint was going to snap the whole deal off sooner or later, with the bike leaning way over as it did.  so I machined a little aluminum "foot" and attached it to the base of the sidestand.      Now the foot of the stand is approximately 1/2" higher and the bike's angle of lean is about five degrees less.   
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2009, 11:51:21 AM »
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Hmmm,

  When I read the title of this thread, this was not the modification I expected.  The spring-loaded side stand damages your tank?  Where the hell is it mounted?


  

When it falls over...

A friend of mine had that happen to a brand new Bimota db2 that was equipped with a sui-side stand.
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2009, 01:45:04 PM »
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I need a mod for the stand on my LM 1000. I'm petrified to use it since the bike is leaned so far and the stand is almost vertical. It looks as though you could knock it over by setting your gloves on the seat.

Thank god it has a centerstand.
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2009, 01:51:31 PM »
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I put a V11 Sport Side Stand Assembly & Bracket on my 1100 Sport, Works Great
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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2009, 01:19:33 AM »
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Apologies for bumping this so late..but this is how you can modify an '80's bike. G5 frame rail and sidestand, if I recall correctly:



Allows sidestand to be retracted while astride bike, and replaces rediculous lean angle.

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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2009, 02:13:40 AM »
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I need a mod for the stand on my LM 1000. I'm petrified to use it since the bike is leaned so far and the stand is almost vertical. It looks as though you could knock it over by setting your gloves on the seat.

Thank god it has a centerstand.

Mark,

here is the bulk of a post that I wrote on a similar thread:

A couple of solutions.

1. The side stand from a Kawaska GPZ 750 (I think its this model) can be easily modified to fit a Guzzi. It is mounted back near the centre stand bolts. A new hole needs to be drilled in the plate there but then it will bolt on.

2. The side stand you have can be easily modified. A lever can be welded onto the existing side stand so that it bends up and slightly to the rear when the stand is up. This helps reaching it while sitting on the saddle.
The existing bracket that bolts through the engine mounting bolt can be modified or preferably replaced. Make another one basically the same shape but have it so that it reaches further back. How far depends on your leg length. 10-20mm will probably do it. This also moves the support point closer to the centre of mass of the bike.
The real trick is to move the spring attachment forward so that when the stand is lowered the line of the spring is "JUST" forward of the centre of the pivot pin. This means the stand will stay down but just. Any forward movement of the bike will allow it to rise on the spring.
If your legs are long enough then just modify the bracket you have by moving the spring attachment point forward and welding the longer lever on the stand.
The result is a stand you can lower from the saddle that will stay put as you rest the bike on it.
I've done this to my MK III and it makes the bike much more user friendly. Others I know have gone for the Kawasaki stand.


To add to it for your extra lean the bracket I made had the pivot hole not only further back but lower. This effectively lengthened the stand and straightened up the bike. It doesn't need to be much though. I lowered the pivot point so that it was 50mm loser than the through engine bolt that supports it. I wouldn't recommend lowering it any more than that. In fact I need to be careful on certain cross slopes. Because I made the bracket longer I used slightly thicker material for added strength. A nice new ppivot hole without any wear stops the bike slumping on it a bit too.

The LM's of that era had great range and I find it very useful after being on it for a few hours to be able to stop, lower the stand whilst still in the saddle, the stand then stays down while I lower the bike over onto it. Once stable I can get off then worry about the centre stand. Its particularly useful when I'm carrying full touring gear and I have to feed my leg over the saddle avoiding all the gear whilst trying to balance myself and the bike on one foot.

I do have photos. PM me if you want but I think you should be able to get the idea from the description.

Hope it helps. Its very easy to make as long as you have some basic tools.
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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2009, 02:56:36 AM »
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Here are a few photos of the stand. Notice that the spring attachment point has been moved forward and it will stay down but will flick up if knocked.





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