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« on: October 17, 2009, 06:33:30 PM »
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I installed a new VDO speedo today. I used a GM sender, which I purchased from Ebay for 19.00. Everything works firne, the test passes, the needle moves and the odo works. But I need to calibrate it.

Can someone tell me how to use the pulse method to calibrate. The GM sender gives 16 pulses.

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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2009, 06:38:18 PM »
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What drives the GM sender?

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Cool!

I'd like to know more about this GM sender and how it works on the MG tranny.

Next time my ITI speedo takes a dump, I'd like to do something different...

More info, please!
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2009, 06:49:44 PM »
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Very cool.  I've got a VDO clock and voltmeter that I'd like to mount on my Vintage, but haven't quite figured out where to place them.  I don't have buckets, so its gonna take some doing...
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Thanks for asking what drives the sender.

The part that drives the original speedo cable will drive the GM sender.

Here is how to do it. Uninstall the speedo cable from the tranny.You will discover a small speedo driver with a hole in it (female part). Sit the sender over this driver ensuring that the sender's key (male part) enter the hole. Luckily the senders driver key is .104" which fits the MG tranny female driver part.

True, the sender will not screw like the original cable. But fortuitously, the size of the sender and the space around it is just perfect, so it will sit there, tightly in place. You will have to make some room by wiggling on the wiring and the 2 hoses which go to the canister.

I rode the bike today. No oil leaks. The sender sits there.

When I received the sender it looked too big to fit. But, I thought I might just give it a try. It worked ; sometimes you get lucky!



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The instructions for putting the speedometer in calibrate mode came with it.  It's just turning the key on while holding down the button, then push the button until "cal" is shown.  Take the bike to wherever you can do a measured mile.  Use another vehicle, a gps, or section lines.  Push the button and start driving.  Stop after exactly 1 mile, push the button again and you're done.

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Looks nice! I installed a Dakota Digital dash on my Jackal much the same way. Used a speed sensor also.
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With the sender just sitting over the speedometer cable connection isn't that a source for water to get inside the tranny??
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With the sender just sitting over the speedometer cable connection isn't that a source for water to get inside the tranny??


Water, I am certain, cannot penetrate into the tranny because the tranny is still sealed by the original driver (female), which protrudes at least 2 cm above the tranny.

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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2009, 09:50:14 AM »
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Very nice!

Just a thought here: you could even tap a small hole in the side of the sender and put a set screw in there to insure it staying in place.

Question: Is the VDO unit designed for motorcycle use? ie: is it going to be bad to get wet? Also, were you able to reuse the original gauge cover underneath or what did you come up with?

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Another question: Did it fit the hole in the mounting bracket?
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i used the original chrome cover.  had to drill a hole to run the wires through. used the original coupling nut and screw to hold the cover in place.  

what you need to do is measure the circumference of the rear wheel.  divide 1 mile by the circumference.  you need to know how many revolutions the original cable made per one wheel revolution.  


1 mile = 5280 feet
5280 x 12 = 63480 inches per mile
outside tire diameter:24 inches x pi (3.14159) = 75.4 inches
63480 / 75.4 = 841.9 revolutions per mile.
16 pulse per revolutions x 841.9 = 13470 pulses

i suspect the original cable turns 4 or 5 times per each complete rear wheel revolutions.
you need to rotate the rear wheel and watch the original cable connection to see how may times it makes a complete rotation for 1 complete rear wheel rotation.  multiply that number times 13,470 pulses.
this will give you the total number of pulses the speedo will get in 1 mile distance.  this is just an example and will get you close.  you will have to ride and measure the accuracy.  remember a pulse is only a few inches of travel.  based on sample calculations, a pulse signal is only 4.7 inches, so if you are off 100 feet in a mile, you will have to make a large change to  the number of pulses.  

in my previous post, i use 3 magnets in my rear brake rotor.  this gave me only three pulses per 1 wheel revolutions.  this is significantly less pulses then you will get with your set up (you will probably get 80 pulses per 1 wheel revolution).  your setup will be more accurate.  
the first number on the right cannot be changed.

2. Manual Calibration with a known value
(pulse )
If you know the exact calibration value for the vehicle and
type of sensor you are using (pulse-per-mile or pulse-perkilometer),
you may use that value to manually calibrate the
speedometer.
To calibrate your VDO Speedometer manually:
1. Press and hold in the button on the front of the speedometer
as you turn on the ignition. Hold in the button until
the word pulse pulse“ ” is displayed on the LCD readout.  

  2. As soon as you see the word pulse “ ,” release the
button. After a few seconds, the display will start flashing a
series of numbers (factory default setting) that you can
change to represent the correct calibration impulse value.
For example, a number like 50000 will show on the display,
with each digit flashing in turn, except for the last digit on
the right, which is fixed: first, the second 0 from the right;
then the third 0 from the right; then, the next 0; and finally,
the 5.
3. As each number flashes, press the button to change it
until the correct digit appears (that is, the number you wish
to input).
For example, let’s say the number that represents the correct
calibration value for your vehicle and sensor is “43850.”
When you begin the manual calibration process, the LCD
displays a default value. Each digit, except the one farthest
to the right, will flash, in turn, from right to left. Wait until
the second digit from the right starts to flash again. When it
does, press the button to start cycling through the numbers
available for this digit. When the number “5” appears, release
thAt this point, the number “5” is set, and the digit to its immediate
left begins to flash — the middle digit. Press the
button again, and hold it until the number “8” appears. Release
the button. Now, the second digit from the left begins
to flash. Again, hold in the button until the number “3”
appears. When it does, all but the left-lmost digit are set.
Repeat the process to set the “4” and the value in our example
is set. The value “43850” should be displayed on the
LCD readout.
4. When you are satisfied you have properly entered the
correct calibration value — when that value is displayed on
the LCD readout — take your finger off the button and wait.
After a few seconds, the value you have entered will be downloaded
into the speedometer’s microprocessor, and the speedometer
will revert back to normal operating mode. At this
point, the manual calibration process is complete.
In the future, you can use this method to update the calibration
value stored in the computer should it ever become
necessary. This function also allows you to manually adjust
the calibration value after you perform the automatic calibration
process.

if the odometer is reading short on a mile, you will need less pulses, and more if it is reading over on a mile.

i got mine within 1 mile on a 100 mile ride compared to another bike and the mile markers on I-65. <divclass="msgbox">Nofilesuploaded!</div>

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Very nice!

Just a thought here: you could even tap a small hole in the side of the sender and put a set screw in there to insure it staying in place.

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I appreciate your ingenuity, in fact I'll drilla hole and make the dender more secure.
Answer to your first Q. Is the VDO unit designed for motorcycle use? ie: is it going to be bad to get wet?"

VDO is designed for vehicles. It will work on Motorcycles because it is  sealed against moisture and even ozone.

2nd Q: "Also, were you able to reuse the original gauge cover underneath or what did you come up with?"

Answer: Yes the original guage cover fits perfectly because the size is 3 1/8.

3 rd Q: " Did it fit the hole in the mounting bracket?

Answer: Yes. As the pictures demonstrate, it is a perfect fit.

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Since my iti crapped out this summer I would love to do this.  Is there any way you can repost the pictures to photobucket so those that missed them can see them.  Thanks, HOSS
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Since my iti crapped out this summer I would love to do this.  Is there any way you can repost the pictures to photobucket so those that missed them can see them.  Thanks, HOSS

Please do the Photobucket thing - I think many of us are in the same boat as HOSS and it's getting time for our winter projects.

Thanks.

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Unless you pay photobucket we have seen problems with photobucket in the past deleting pictures so we're not completely happy with them either. Paid accounts have not seen the problem.
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This looks like it will work with my Autometer gauge. Do you have the part number or application for the GM sender? Thanks for posting this.

Could this be the same one you used: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cyberdyne-8901-Sending-Unit-Speedometer-Most-GM-Each_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem56363a30d4QQitemZ370276970708QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_2951wt_898

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Ebay still offers the GM sender, which has 16 puses, as mine does. This guy ships fast, but charges 7.50 . In any case, the product is solid.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-speedometer-sender-GM-pulse-generator-Hall-effect_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3a531b5bf8QQitemZ250502405112QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_500wt_1182

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Thanks for redoing the pictures Smiley
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Thanks for redoing the pictures Smiley

Thanks, M. Kahn.  You've done a superb job and an equally fine service to us owners of Guzzis with the fragile ITI speedometer/odometer instrument.

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Hi all:

I really enjoyed this mini project. It is really a simple winter project which should not take more than a Saturday. The most joyous aspect of this project was the serependitious discovery of the GM sender; this sender was made for Guzzi!

I was thinking of installing Walmart/Target bycycle sender, but decided against it because it would mar the bike's beauty.

Today I calibrated the speedo using a TomTom. The readings came out to be DEAD accurate.  I couldn't help myself keep  my eyes off, admiring the beautiful speedo, rather than than paying attention to the fall colors and traffic. A small victory.

In summary: eguages.com sell the VDO. Get a VDO cockpit, 120 miles, 3 1/8. The sender came from Ebay for 19.00

Regards as always,

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Well, I decided to pick up one of those senders in case I decided to do something along the line of your change.

Question: 3 wires on the sender, Black/White/Red. Is the red and black power and ground with the white being the control lead to the tach?

It may be some time before I do this and I wanted to mark on the box. Also, I have a friend, whose brother is a GM makanak. I'll see if I can get a specific application and part number for this unit.

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black is ground, red is 12 volts and white is signal. egauges has a pdf with easy instructions:

http://www.egauges.com/pdf/vdo/0-515-012-051.pdf

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M.K., I received the sender today. Thanks again for the tip! I thought I was going to have make my own sending unit picking up marks on the rear wheel hub but this will be so much easier.

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black is ground, red is 12 volts and white is signal. egauges has a pdf with easy instructions:

http://www.egauges.com/pdf/vdo/0-515-012-051.pdf

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Thanks, that is what I figured. I knew the gauges would have instructions. I just wanted to verify the leads coming off the sender. Thanks again.

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If there is anough space, could a threadded adapter be fabricated to allow the GM sender to actually screw onto the transmission?
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If there is anough space, could a threadded adapter be fabricated to allow the GM sender to actually screw onto the transmission?

Yes. there is enough space to fit a  fabricated  adapter. The senders dia is approx 1.25 inch, while the driver's diameter is approx 1 cm.

I thought it was a good solution, but I do not have the know how or the tools to fabricate such an adapter.

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Gary, another consideration with doing that would be that the square drive cable would not be long enough to reach into the transmission if there were an adapter in the mix. If it seems to fit snugly as is, why fight it. As I suggested, drill and tap the body of the sender and install a set screw in there. Cheap and easy.

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As I suggested, drill and tap the body of the sender and install a set screw in there. Cheap and easy.

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My only concern with the set screw is that it will create an angle between the key and the female part in the  driver. As a result of the angle the key can wear out prematurely. ( Senders diameter is more than an inch, while the drivers diameter is approx a cm.)

It is truly a snug fit which works fine, but it is also true that you get a feeling of something missing, something not done right, something left incomplete: sloppy.

But the contraption works accurately.

An adapter, if one can be fabricated, would be a very good solution.

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I thought I might add to this thread with some additional info.

First: VDO makes several worthy speedometers for our application. As previously mentioned 3 1/8" is the one you want.

http://www.egauges.com/vdo_mult.asp?Type=Speedometer&Series=Vision&Units=E

http://www.egauges.com/vdo_mult.asp?Type=Speedometer&Series=Cockpit_Royale&Units=E

Both of these, along with the original post are worthy candidates for an electronic speedo swap. The first link shows a gauge that lights through the dial, rather than around the edges. That lighting configuration is how my LeMans stock gauges are lit. The EV's light around the dial. In either case of the above gauges, either the bezel or the pointer are the wrong color to look completely stock with either stock gauge. I figure if one were really picky, you could paint the bezel of the aftermarket gauge or the remaining stock gauge of the first choice. As for the second choice, I would probably take the original tach, remove the glass, and paint the needle black to match the new speedo.

I really like the idea of an accurate speedo, and have ordered the black one which I intend to install into my EV. I'm looking to get an '03 LeMans tach to go with the black face VDO gauge. (No, they don't make that particular VDO gauge in a white face.)

Note to late model LeMans or V11 Sport owners: The sending unit from the original post will not work on the V11 Sport series bikes. It is tall enough to interfear with the linkage between the throttle bodies. If you were considering putting this [gauge] on one of these bikes, a different sender of some sort would be needed, or a way to relocate the sender away from the linkages.

Unfortunately, VDO does not make a tach that works on a two cylinder. They also don't go above 7 grand, so you need to retain the stock tach and match as best as you can.

With the cold weather setting in here, I'm thinking about projects to tinker with. Gauges without faded needles on the EV would be a good thing, not to mention getting rid of the nearly 12% optomistic speedo.

Thanks M Kahn for the inspiration! BTW: I see what you mean about the set screw. Goose may be onto something regarding a threaded gizzy that would have the proper inner and outer threads. More to come.

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Gary, another consideration with doing that would be that the square drive cable would not be long enough to reach into the transmission if there were an adapter in the mix. If it seems to fit snugly as is, why fight it. As I suggested, drill and tap the body of the sender and install a set screw in there. Cheap and easy.

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What I was thinking was something along the lines of a helicoil type. screws into the sender, which then is the correct size to scre on to the transmission. Same height as just sitting loosely on the tranny.
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Yep Gary, after seeing the sending unit, (I bought one), that is what I envisioned as well.

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Yep Gary, after seeing the sending unit, (I bought one), that is what I envisioned as well.

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I was wondering if an old nut from a speedo cable could be used.
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Yep Gary, after seeing the sending unit, (I bought one), that is what I envisioned as well.

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I was wondering if an old nut from a speedo cable could be used.

Great idea!

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« Reply #35 on: October 29, 2009, 02:08:35 PM »
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Would a V11 Sport speedo angle drive work?
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« Reply #36 on: October 29, 2009, 05:18:23 PM »
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Autometer has a speedo/tach combo that might work. Not the harley one. I emailed Autometer to find out and they said it should work fine. Trick will be finding a sending unit for the speedo. Maybe the gm one will work here too. There is a tach terminal on the computer of a 2000 Jackal. Is the same thing on the Stone?

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« Reply #37 on: October 29, 2009, 08:56:17 PM »
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 AMGeneral, I looked at the Autometer. Nice stuff, but it is either too big or too small by just a little. The VDO 3 1/8 is an exact perfect fit into the stock gauge pod. Not every VDO series is made in 3 1/8. They even have a place to put some studs to attach the back of the pod, and they're in the correct place. (Gauge showed up today.)

Tom, something like that might work. There is also another sending unit from VDO that the wires stick out to the side. That may work as well. Right now, no biggie as it is the EV I'm working on, but I did size it up on the LeMans for giggles.

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« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2009, 07:51:19 AM »
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I used to have an electronic VDO gauge kit I installed into my 1956 Ford pickup.  I was able to go into the "calibrate" mode and I used mile marker signs on the interstate to calibrate mine.  I wanted this type of speedometer that I could instantly recalibrate easily depending on what size of tires I had on the truck at the time.  This system worked great!!  Push the button at the first mile marker sign and push it again at the next one.  The system would then "count" the number of pulses in the calibrated mile and set everything where it needed to be automatically.
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« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2009, 10:47:11 AM »
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Autometer has a speedo/tach combo that might work. Not the harley one. I emailed Autometer to find out and they said it should work fine. Trick will be finding a sending unit for the speedo. Maybe the gm one will work here too. There is a tach terminal on the computer of a 2000 Jackal. Is the same thing on the Stone?

This will be a long project for me. Gotta get some things paid off before I can play.

See ya,
Rod

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