Nice V50 Monza for sale

[canuck750]

https://denver.craigslist.org/mcy/6194051949.html

[Chuck in Indiana]

Looks like a beauty all right. Will it bring that kind of money? Hard to say. You don't get if you don't ask. 

[canuck750]

2/3 of a Le Mans for less than a third of the price of a Le Mans MK I in the same condition!

As the prices of the MK I Le Mans climb I think these smaller beauties are going to climb in value.

I bet it does better in gaining value over the next 5 years than most any mutual fund.

[Chuck in Indiana]

2/3 of a Le Mans for less than a third of the price of a Le Mans MK I in the same condition!

As the prices of the MK I Le Mans climb I think these smaller beauties are going to climb in value.

I bet it does better in gaining value over the next 5 years than most any mutual fund.

Mine is a keeper, so I guess it really doesn't matter to me.  If I get to the point that I'm uncomfortable with the weight of the Monza, I'll hang up the spurs..

[Yukonica]

Mine is a keeper, so I guess it really doesn't matter to me.  If I get to the point that I'm uncomfortable with the weight of the Monza, I'll hang up the spurs..

Have you ridden a current era V7? If so; how does it feel relative to the Monza?
Small bikes have been my favourite for a couple decades (once I learned the slow bike fast quotient). Had a Morini; wish I still had it. I've seen more Monza's than 3 1/2's on the market.

[Chuck in Indiana]

Have you ridden a current era V7? If so; how does it feel relative to the Monza?
Small bikes have been my favourite for a couple decades (once I learned the slow bike fast quotient). Had a Morini; wish I still had it. I've seen more Monza's than 3 1/2's on the market.

Yeah, I've ridden the V7 and V9. They feel roughly equivalent to the Lario, although I (naturally) prefer the AeroLario    The Monza is *quite a bit* lighter and more flickable than either of the three.

[not-fishing]

Picked up a V50 III last year for $2500.

Put Condor drop bars on it. 



Dyna S ignition, new plugs, adjusted valves, New K & N Pods, rejet & rebuilt the carbs, rebuilt the front forks with Racetech front springs, new ikon rear shocks with correct springs, new throttle cables, LED instrument & brake lights.

All I really have left is to put a set of rearsets and front fork brace on it.

I'll have about $3500 in it and I'd stack it up against any V50 Monza,  the only thing it doesn't have is the fancy name and pretty fairing.

The boy's going to do a 5 hour shakedown ride on it with me on the Griso this weekend.  Lost of twistys.  Before he could only stand the seat for about an hour due to the lousy original suspension.  We'll see how the new Ikon's do.

[SmithSwede]

Neat bike. 

I'm curious though.   Why would a Monza weigh so much less than a modern V7 Stone?  Seems like the frame, engine, and other components would be comparable in weight. 

[ponti_33609]

Neat bike. 

I'm curious though.   Why would a Monza weigh so much less than a modern V7 Stone?  Seems like the frame, engine, and other components would be comparable in weight.

Not sure it is. Isn't the curb weight just under 400 pounds on the new and is the Monza quoted the dry?  If so it would be within 10 pounds.


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[Yukonica]

Picked up a V50 III last year for $2500.

The boy's going to do a 5 hour shakedown ride on it with me on the Griso this weekend.  Lost of twistys.  Before he could only stand the seat for about an hour due to the lousy original suspension.  We'll see how the new Ikon's do.

Photos?
 

[blackcat]

Not sure it is. Isn't the curb weight just under 400 pounds on the new and is the Monza quoted the dry?  If so it would be within 10 pounds.


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The V7III is 470lbs wet and 425 dry.
http://www.motoguzzi.com/us_EN/moto/standard/V7-III/V7-III-Special/

Dry weight on the Monza is 353.

[jas67]

The V7III is 470lbs wet and 425 dry.
http://www.motoguzzi.com/us_EN/moto/standard/V7-III/V7-III-Special/

Dry weight on the Monza is 353.

The V7III has ABS which adds some weight, plus, those semi heads look like they add a few pounds.
IIRC, the 2013-2015 V7 had a dry weight around 415 or so, maybe 407?

353 does sound light.   

[Chuck in Indiana]

The Monza *is* light. It's like a bicycle in comparison to the Lario.. maybe that is just perceived weight?
I need to find some scales.

[guzzista]

Referring to the posting about older riders choosing lighter bikes, seems to me that the little Monza would be a dream come true.

[Chuck in Indiana]

Referring to the posting about older riders choosing lighter bikes, seems to me that the little Monza would be a dream come true.

Yes.. and no. Many old farts want  the sit up and beg riding position. The Monza reminds me of the 1100 Sport.

[Unkept]

The Monza *is* light. It's like a bicycle in comparison to the Lario.. maybe that is just perceived weight?
I need to find some scales.

I was going to say, we need some more reliable evidence than the factory info from the 80's! ;)

My mind can't fathom how it could be 70~lbs lighter than a new small block...

Almost the same frame, same materials for bodywork, no ECU/ABS/wiring on the Monza of course, but still... 

I hope it's true though. :) The Monza is a pretty bike and they are on my mind quite often.

[SmithSwede]

I know the more recent V711 and V7III Stones are heavier than my 2013.  I'm just baffled how a Monza could be considerably lighter than mine. 

The older Monza even has an extra front brake disk and associated caliper compared to mine.

My forks are wider, but I'm not sure that would make them heavier.

I suspect that a single throttle body ECU/fuel pump/injectors are comparable in weight to dual carbs.

A mystery.   

[Tom]

I miss riding my V50III.  It has a V65 engine in it. 

[Chuck in Indiana]

It's a mystery that can be solved, if anyone is *really* interested. The local EAA chapter has a set of scales for doing weight and balance on airplanes. I could go out to the airport, bring them home, and weigh the Lario and Monza. I have the Lario up on the lift doing a choke conversion, so it wouldn't be immediately though.

[SmithSwede]

Empirical data!!!

If it's not too much bother, I'd sure like to know.  Might give us some insight on the truth value of old advertising.

[bad Chad]

I wonder how much difference softer rubber tires make to the perceived weight when muscling a bike around the garage?  The Breva is heavy, but It seems like it might act more so because the new Pirelli Angles are more sticky then the cheapo Chinese tires on my ZengShong.

[ponti_33609]

The V7III is 470lbs wet and 425 dry.
http://www.motoguzzi.com/us_EN/moto/standard/V7-III/V7-III-Special/

Dry weight on the Monza is 353.

I think I read that the III's weight was mis quoted. Still the V7 I is about 45 pounds heavier.


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[Chuck in Indiana]

Empirical data!!!

If it's not too much bother, I'd sure like to know.  Might give us some insight on the truth value of old advertising.

Ok.. it'll be probably late next week.

[Unkept]

Ok.. it'll be probably late next week.

Another moment in Moto Guzzi history? Chuck runs the first Aero smallblock (unless the Ippo ever ran ;) Probably never got the fueling right in Mandello :P ) and now he may prove or disprove the weight numbers of the early smallblocks. :)

[steamdriven NZ]

When I did my 750 conversion on my Monza I weighed it before and after. With a half tank of fuel (16l tank) it weighed 180kg almost exactly (100kg rear, 80kg front).
With the 750 engine installed, additional weight in terms of the Digiplex unit, the stock airbox vs KnN's and fully silenced Nevada mufflers the weight rose 1.6 kg to 181.6kg on the same scales.

Those are not certified calibrated scales but used for comparison before and after. But for a bike that was advertised in the brochure at 165kg I think its not too far away.
My new job does have calibrated racecar corner scales in the shop, might have to do a comparo one day....

Anyway, FYI.

Kev.