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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2018, 01:59:19 PM »
I for one appreciate the advice and patience here considering my boneheaded attempts of maintenance and repair.   :laugh:
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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2018, 02:17:16 PM »
Maybe. But then you would never get to understand the splendour of goat leggings......
Goat legging? Ferret legging? I need a dictionary.
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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2018, 02:25:44 PM »
I always search before asking... but after 10 or 20 misses, I tend to just ask. I'm well aware that I annoy some on here, but so be it. Some of y'all have been super helpful.


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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2018, 03:24:20 PM »
Beetle, it was never my intent to assign blame for anything. Some of the responses were pulled and I didn't see them. Also, as I'm sure you noticed, you were named as a person held in high regard by myself and many others. I simply figured there might be a little food for thought on both sides of the coin, that's all.


I do understand that, and appreciate it. You were probably scratching your head wondering what had happened, same as others. When I read your post I thought it was a good opportunity to let the board know what had happened, and why the OP had decided to leave. There's things happening in the background here and elsewhere that made me wonder if I'm offending people, even when I don't intend to. Trust me, if I mean to offend someone, they will know.   :smiley:
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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2018, 03:30:19 PM »
Goat legging? Ferret legging? I need a dictionary.
At least I know what Velcro gloves are for. :evil:




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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2018, 03:47:43 PM »
Oh good Lord.  Now I've sprayed iced tea out of my nose and into my keyboard.
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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2018, 04:22:03 PM »
Oh good Lord.  Now I've sprayed iced tea out of my nose and into my keyboard.

More :gotpics:
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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2018, 04:33:25 PM »
Excellant post ZZ.

In my management  jobs I had plenty of people that I directed and then they would carry out my requests.
The point I made to everyone management and non management was this.
Be fair to everyone in directing the request . Listen to the people  complaining or offering suggestions, and be firm if needed but always  be fair .

On the forum I certainly have made outright mistakes but people listened to my requests that helped my fix my MG repairs.

I would like to think that over the years I was able to help others out.

But with this forum I've met and made many new friends. Lost a few to.

Yes we all have had personal problems bad days and some days complete melt downs but with such a good group here helped keep things in balance.

Comments questions help info contact me I'll try to help.
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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2018, 05:32:29 PM »
The WG community is now so large and global that there are bound to be misunderstandings and disagreements, its just the nature of such a place and the different backgrounds and cultures of those within it.

It also means that there is a continuing stream of questions but also a broader breadth of knowledge to be accessed. I for one nowadays rarely even have time to try and answer questions on older model issues and luckily we have a vast pool of knowledge available in people like Joe, Tom, Charlie, Martin and others who can cover this stuff in their sleep. There are also technical and machining wizards like Chuck who give freely of their time and effort to help and educate in areas that most will probably never attempt themselves but have an interest in. I nowadays tend to confine myself to educating about the CARC bikes, particularly the 8Vs which it must be painfully obvious I adore, and the later model FI bikes although when it comes to serious questions about engine management I will quickly defer to Beetle for all the reasons he himself noted above for the simple reason he does understand not only the technology but also the Magnetti Marrelli mindset in terms of how and why they build their systems. That doesnt need partnering with a big Name company, it just takes hard bloody work, hundreds, probably thousands of hours of it! And yes, I was asked if I thought he was an egotistical troll and I did reply that at times he could come across as Gleefully Brusque :D

As Ive said before a lot of stuff gets lost in translation, stuff that is like water off a ducks back here sometimes causes offence in other countries and it can seem at times baffling to all parties but sometimes a step back and deep breath is all thats required.

As for the social aspects of the board? Go nuts! None of us has to give the tiniest of shits what others think as long as it doesnt piss off the mods and the rules are pretty simple!

Anyway, have a good day all. Its just starting to sleet here, Ive got to drop of a Griso, pick up a V7s Racer then move another Griso to a different location before returning to a freezing shed to stand around with a drippy nose holding cold spinners while it probably snows! Who lives better than me?

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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2018, 05:45:26 PM »
^^^^^  :grin: :grin:
No...body..
but you are right, Pete.
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and it can seem at times baffling to all parties but sometimes a step back and deep breath is all that�s required.

Trust me. I've been totally pissed off at a poster that I now call a friend. As much as we might think not.. we *are* family here, bonded by a love of an idiosyncratic machine and manufacturer. Let's not take anything too seriously.. it's supposed to be fun to play with your toys.  :smiley:
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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2018, 06:42:21 PM »
What really helps is that those that are posting to attend more of the rallies that are out of their region.  Putting a face to the name and poster of a thread helps. 
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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2018, 06:58:56 PM »
What really helps is that those that are posting to attend more of the rallies that are out of their region.  Putting a face to the name and poster of a thread helps. 

Agreed!  I enjoyed meeting everyone in Prescott, and then I promptly forgot everyone I met, which truly sucked (AKA, prosopagnosia). :violent1:   
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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2018, 07:44:04 PM »
Agreed!  I enjoyed meeting everyone in Prescott, and then I promptly forgot everyone I met, which truly sucked (AKA, prosopagnosia). :violent1:   

It's a rule of life ... when you're introduced to someone, the only name you really hear is your own ... you have to do like the TV commercials, and say the name you want to remember 3 times.   

"That's the Popeil Pocket Fisherman... remember, Popeil Pocket Fisherman   ... get your Popeil Pocket Fisherman today ... !"

So when you're introduced, say "Paul ... good to meet you Paul ... I have a cousin named Paul ... So it's Paul, is it?"   They may think you're weird but at least you'll remember the name.

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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2018, 07:48:24 PM »
Nicely said John, sometimes you have to be pretty thick skinned to survive around here. It�s easy to take a comment too personal or out of context. Most of these old boys are like you and a hoot to have around a campfire. EXCEPT LANNIS :laugh: :laugh:  :laugh: Hey, where�s that Jameson�s anyway??????
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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2018, 07:52:06 PM »
Hey!... No problem.  I forget over half the names of everyone that I've met.   :shocked: 

Until recently, I was able to go to the National Rally in different parts of the States.  Loads of names that I forgot.   :tongue:
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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2018, 08:51:59 PM »
I for one appreciate the advice and patience here considering my boneheaded attempts of maintenance and repair.   :laugh:

As a relative "newbie" to this forum, I often wonder if the members know exactly how good and encompassing this site is.
I've gone from a "bonehead" to "knowledgeable (Slightly)" in a very short time by reading, searching and asking/answering dumb questions.
There are a number of very knowledgeable and patient posters here that freely give their time and advice (for the elventiesh time !)

The first time I received a Private Message from one of them, who was following up on a (dumb) question, it was a profound  (and pleasant) shock!!!

Compare that to my other Blog/Interests such as Bushwalking, Beekeeping, Politics, Softball Umpiring, where the flame wars are legendary, the keyboard "experts" in plaque proportions and the lack of humour depressing.

and yes it does help that I speak fluent "Strine" (Australian) and was schooled at a joint US/Australian High School.
(I have a good grasp of the international limitations of "irony")

It is one of the few Blogs that I actively pursue the "Pass it forward" principal of reciprocating good advice by helping someone else.

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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #46 on: June 14, 2018, 08:55:40 PM »
Nicely said John, sometimes you have to be pretty thick skinned to survive around here. It�s easy to take a comment too personal or out of context. Most of these old boys are like you and a hoot to have around a campfire. EXCEPT LANNIS :laugh: :laugh:  :laugh: Hey, where�s that Jameson�s anyway??????

Oi, what do you know about it anyhow?   I don't remember you at any campfire I've ever hung around ... unless I was introduced and forgot your name ... ?  :grin:   
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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #47 on: June 14, 2018, 09:05:20 PM »
Oi, what do you know about it anyhow?   I don't remember you at any campfire I've ever hung around ... unless I was introduced and forgot your name ... ?  :grin:


What did you say your name was???? You�re welcome at my campfire any time :thumb:

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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #48 on: June 14, 2018, 09:27:34 PM »



Ok, add some horns and Im back to my 20s again , god times, good times!  :evil:
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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #49 on: June 14, 2018, 09:29:47 PM »
Ok, add some horns and I�m back to my 20�s again , god times, good times!  :evil:
Is he waiting for something to back up onto that finger, or is he accusing some poor bugger of something.
He looks like he's saying..
"No really, it's about this long...!"
The tall guy is saying...
""Nah, don't flatter yourself...!"
Is one of those Beetle..?
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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #50 on: June 14, 2018, 09:47:12 PM »
Yeah, that's Mark on the left. He was probably heaping abuse on the exhaust or some such! :grin:

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« Reply #51 on: June 14, 2018, 10:43:35 PM »
Yeah, that's Mark on the left. He was probably heaping abuse on the exhaust or some such! :grin:
That actually DOES surprise me..!
Would have bet money on the other bloke. (Not that it matters either way..)

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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #52 on: June 15, 2018, 05:55:18 AM »
Luap should consider offing those leggings in the products section, and maybe some optional Moto Guzzi embossed cod pieces.

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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #53 on: June 15, 2018, 06:30:14 AM »
Leggings are a Ghetto thing.

Just heard Ron, (Waterbottle here and elsewhere.) has stacked heavily at Lakeside. High sided the Griso. Many broken bits. Keep him in your thoughts.

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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #54 on: June 15, 2018, 06:34:53 AM »
That stinks. I'm wishing Ron all the best and I'll keep him in my thoughts.

Pete, please let us know if you hear anything more.

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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #55 on: June 15, 2018, 06:37:56 AM »
Getting stuffsecond hand from Mark. News is sketchy. May of been oil on the tyre.

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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #56 on: June 15, 2018, 07:04:17 AM »
Hoping for the best..
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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #57 on: June 15, 2018, 07:55:58 AM »
 Damnit !

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Re: A few thoughts on troubleshooting: Or , some notes on WG culture .
« Reply #58 on: June 15, 2018, 09:07:23 AM »
Highside. Never a good thing.  Hoping for the best.  Very sorry to hear this
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