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Title: Visit USA
Post by: Fredrik on December 04, 2021, 06:39:02 AM
Hello.

I have only visited USA one time and it was in 1997 i had a week of vacation in Miami, Florida. I plan to visit USA again as soon the - situation is more stable. But this time do i want to visit ”real USA” so to say and not big cities like NY, LA etc. But ordinary small towns where tourism not have ruined the way of living. Florida felt like visiting South America based on the latina influence, nothing bad about that but it did not feel very, well, american. Any tips what is nice genuine american places where people drive pick up and use chewing tobacco? (Dont take my words to serious, i dont mean to offend).  :afro:
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Dirk_S on December 04, 2021, 06:55:15 AM
I’m just here to say that the US is huge, and the best part is that experience you had IS part of the American experience.  That experience was a regional one, but America is as much about the immigrants as it is about the folks whose families have lived in the same county in the same state for 200-300 hundred years. There’s stubborn traditionalism and persistent progressivism, and it’s all part of the fabric. That said, I come from small town living. If I were visiting the US, and only visited small towns, I’d be disappointed. Small towns in the states aren’t like those in Europe, where each one has a thousand year’s worth of really unique, documented history and their own distinct flavors.

Visiting the US for me would include a large road trip, trying to get as much of the scenery as possible. The country is so vast. If you want to avoid the biggest cities, that’s fine, but I think a road trip is the best option.

That said, if you want rural living, loud pickup trucks, and ornery blue collar workers, just drive farther away from the city lights. You’ll see that life.
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Ncdan on December 04, 2021, 06:59:06 AM
Fred, give me a shout out when you get up NC snd I’ll take you through the rural mountain of the Appalachian mountains. You’ll see all the baccker chewing, white liquor drinking folks you want to see.
I’ll even pick the banjo for you👍
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Fredrik on December 04, 2021, 07:00:39 AM
I’m just here to say that the US is huge, and the best part is that experience you had IS part of the American experience.  That experience was a regional one, but America is as much about the immigrants as it is about the folks whose families have lived in the same county in the same state for 200-300 hundred years. There’s stubborn traditionalism and persistent progressivism, and it’s all part of the fabric. That said, I come from small town living. If I were visiting the US, and only visited small towns, I’d be disappointed. Small towns in the states aren’t like those in Europe, where each one has a thousand year’s worth of really unique, documented history and their own distinct flavors.

Visiting the US for me would include a large road trip, trying to get as much of the scenery as possible. The country is so vast. If you want to avoid the biggest cities, that’s fine, but I think a road trip is the best option.

That said, if you want rural living, loud pickup trucks, and ornery blue collar workers, just drive farther away from the city lights. You’ll see that life.

Thanks for reply, as you mention a road trip is what i want to do. I think it is the only way to get the best out of a trip in US.  :cheesy:
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Fredrik on December 04, 2021, 07:01:51 AM
Fred, give me a shout out when you get up NC snd I’ll take you through the rural mountain of the Appalachian mountains. You’ll see all the baccker chewing, white liquor drinking folks you want to see.
I’ll even pick the banjo for you👍


Looking forward to! Thanks!  :cheesy:
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: yogidozer on December 04, 2021, 07:13:26 AM
Fred, give me a shout out when you get up NC snd I’ll take you through the rural mountain of the Appalachian mountains. You’ll see all the baccker chewing, white liquor drinking folks you want to see.
I’ll even pick the banjo for you👍

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Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Mike Craven on December 04, 2021, 07:26:49 AM
I can give you another place to land in the SE U.S. and have had several visitors over the years.  PM me.
-Mike-  (driving SAABs since 1973  :grin:)
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Scout63 on December 04, 2021, 07:42:11 AM
Hope you have a grand trip Fredrik.   There is so much to see in this country.  This is perhaps an unfair generalization,  but the southern half of the country seems more hospitable, or at least quicker to start a conversation. Southern food is simply amazing.  Being from the northeast, I’m always gratified by how open and friendly southerners are to strangers. I recommend looking for mountains, lakes and natural beauty, and then cross checking that with regional food and music.  Also, Americans seem very good at collecting interesting things and showing them off.  There are many great museums of cars, motorcycles and other stuff. Finally, look up local food festivals.  There is nothing more fun than immersing yourself in a crowd proud of their local specialty.
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: fotoguzzi on December 04, 2021, 07:43:28 AM
Up here in Minnesota you'd feel right at home. There is a lot of Swedish influence from immigrants. My grandma was born in Malmo Sweden. There is a Malmo Minnesota too. We have a lot of pickup trucks but not much tobacco chewers yet it is sold in all the gas stations/convenience stores. I grew up in Scandia Mn and relatives live in Lindstrom. We don't have big mountains or wide open prairie but do have a gazillion lakes so come in summer or the water will be hard. You will get a warm welcome here, look me up.
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Lake Superior worth a visit. And we have big fish if that's your thing.
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Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: GeorgiaGuzzi on December 04, 2021, 07:44:45 AM
Fred, give me a shout out when you get up NC snd I’ll take you through the rural mountain of the Appalachian mountains. You’ll see all the baccker chewing, white liquor drinking folks you want to see.
I’ll even pick the banjo for you👍

Take Dan up on his offer. The area he lives in has excellent motorcycling roads and lots of small town life. Another area that I personally recommend is the black hills area around Sturgis South Dakota. Needles Highway and Deadwood SD are awesome! Within a days ride of SD is another bucket list destination, Beartooth pass and Chief Joseph highway in Wyoming. Lots gorgeous scenery and small town life. The food in the Midwest is not as good as around Dan’s area. Too many European settlers with bland cooking in the Midwest! Lol

Here is a pic of the scenery from the Blue Ridge Parkway, close to NCDan.

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And here is a pic from Beartooth Highway in Wyoming.

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And finally from Needles area in SD

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Let us know when you’re coming over and I’m sure we can have some Guzzi guides for you!
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Gliderjohn on December 04, 2021, 08:00:35 AM
If possible plan your trip around the first half of May and attend a small Guzzi Rally in Cedar Vale, Kansas. Doesn't get more "heartland".
GliderJohn
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Petrus Rocks on December 04, 2021, 08:10:26 AM
I recommend the Finger Lakes region of NY.  Very friendly people, great riding, breweries and wineries everywhere.  Many small and large towns.  The Glenn Curtiss Museum- https://glennhcurtissmuseum.org/ (https://glennhcurtissmuseum.org/).  All kinds of riding gravel and paved. 
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Fredrik on December 04, 2021, 08:10:54 AM
I think it is impossible to experience USA in only one trip. I know i want to see the beautiful landscape in Wyoming, corn fields with silos in some states, listen to live country songs at a local pub, eat good spicy food etc. Maybe north to south will be a first step.  :cheesy:
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: PJPR01 on December 04, 2021, 08:36:39 AM

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Lots to see…tons of variety…from the plains to the farms to the mountains…
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Guzzi Gal on December 04, 2021, 08:38:04 AM
Hope you have a grand trip Fredrik.   There is so much to see in this country.  This is perhaps an unfair generalization,  but the southern half of the country seems more hospitable, or at least quicker to start a conversation. Southern food is simply amazing.  Being from the northeast, I’m always gratified by how open and friendly southerners are to strangers. I recommend looking for mountains, lakes and natural beauty, and then cross checking that with regional food and music.  Also, Americans seem very good at collecting interesting things and showing them off.  There are many great museums of cars, motorcycles and other stuff. Finally, look up local food festivals.  There is nothing more fun than immersing yourself in a crowd proud of their local specialty.

Agreed! I'd set a rough route covering your must see sights then find interesting happenings between each. You can traverse the country in well under a week, but why would you want to?
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Fredrik on December 04, 2021, 08:38:19 AM

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So beautiful!
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: PJPR01 on December 04, 2021, 08:39:54 AM

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One more for you!!
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: inditx on December 04, 2021, 08:47:01 AM
If possible plan your trip around the first half of May and attend a small Guzzi Rally in Cedar Vale, Kansas. Doesn't get more "heartland".
GliderJohn

And while in Kansas visit Lindsborg Kansas, after all it is named Little Sweden for good reason. Stay at the wonderful Rosberg House where Sabrina will take care of you like you’re royalty! (this is an unpaid endorsement)

If you’re around, KC give a shout out and we’ll break bread.
inditx aka Jack
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Guzzistajohn on December 04, 2021, 08:47:23 AM
Take NCDan's offer. Those people in the Carolinas are the nicest folks. If you want to see backwoods SW Missouri and NW Arkansas, I'm you're man.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Nick on December 04, 2021, 09:19:15 AM

If your route includes riding thru New Jersey, you may want to visit this little town.

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Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: PJPR01 on December 04, 2021, 09:22:25 AM

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Great recommendation, we passed thru there in May this year…one week after the Cedar Vale rally
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: SIR REAL ED on December 04, 2021, 09:31:02 AM
Hello.

I have only visited USA one time and it was in 1997 i had a week of vacation in Miami, Florida. I plan to visit USA again as soon the - situation is more stable. But this time do i want to visit ”real USA” so to say and not big cities like NY, LA etc. But ordinary small towns where tourism not have ruined the way of living. Florida felt like visiting South America based on the latina influence, nothing bad about that but it did not feel very, well, american. Any tips what is nice genuine american places where people drive pick up and use chewing tobacco? (Dont take my words to serious, i dont mean to offend).  :afro:

Fredrik,

On other forms where a greater variety of topics are discussed much more passionately (some would say less politely), I like to remind the non-American posters that America is a country which defies definition.  Large populations both encourage and defy stereotyping since the observer can always find datapoint to bolster or refute their preferred assumptions.

I like to remind the other forum members that there are over 39,000 zip codes in America, and each zip code may contain a dozen or more cultures.

Asking about America is like asking about Europe or Asia.  Lots of variation and diversity.  So expect the answers to your inquiries to vary greatly based on the perceptions and experiences of the responder.

I would advise to pick a few areas that you would like to visit for whatever reasons but then don't hold a strict schedule, just follow whatever interests you at the moment.  Also known as "following your nose."

Once you start meeting Americans face to face, most will offer you plenty of advice on the local attractions and areas of interest.

If you make it to the Lynchburg, Virginia area, please let me know.  I'll be glad to buy you a meal and show you around.  If you're. to allergic to animals, I can probably put you up for a couple nights.  More great backroads within a 100 mile radius than one can ride in a lifetime.

Assuming of course that you have not already stopped at NCDan's place and are not already completely turned off by Southern Redneck Inbred Americans.......   :wink:  cause most of my BS will probably sound a lot like his BS..... but with an upstate NY accent....:azn:

take care,

Ed
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: slowmover on December 04, 2021, 09:36:12 AM
Yeah well stay away from Chicago.
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: SIR REAL ED on December 04, 2021, 10:07:28 AM
Fredrik,

More advice:

You might want to watch the movie "My Cousin Vinny" a few times before you visit.

A female Russian PhD. Physicist I worked with told me that after hearing her accent, a lot of Americans ask her to repeat the phrase "Squirrel must die!"  Made famous by the Rocky and Bullwinkle cartoons.

Don't be surprised if some Americans ask you to translate the song that the Swedish Chef from the Muppets is singing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8SGRm3JaW8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7UmUX68KtE

Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Stretch on December 04, 2021, 10:22:17 AM
If you're in Maine, let me know.

There are some beautiful places to see in New England, and some
great roads.

As others have said, North Carolina, various areas in New York State,
Pennsylvania, California, West Virginia, etc., etc. are beautiful.

                                            -Stretch

                                               
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Fredrik on December 04, 2021, 10:30:30 AM
Fredrik,

On other forms where a greater variety of topics are discussed much more passionately (some would say less politely), I like to remind the non-American posters that America is a country which defies definition.  Large populations both encourage and defy stereotyping since the observer can always find datapoint to bolster or refute their preferred assumptions.

I like to remind the other forum members that there are over 39,000 zip codes in America, and each zip code may contain a dozen or more cultures.

Asking about America is like asking about Europe or Asia.  Lots of variation and diversity.  So expect the answers to your inquiries to vary greatly based on the perceptions and experiences of the responder.

I would advise to pick a few areas that you would like to visit for whatever reasons but then don't hold a strict schedule, just follow whatever interests you at the moment.  Also known as "following your nose."

Once you start meeting Americans face to face, most will offer you plenty of advice on the local attractions and areas of interest.

If you make it to the Lynchburg, Virginia area, please let me know.  I'll be glad to buy you a meal and show you around.  If you're. to allergic to animals, I can probably put you up for a couple nights.  More great backroads within a 100 mile radius than one can ride in a lifetime.

Assuming of course that you have not already stopped at NCDan's place and are not already completely turned off by Southern Redneck Inbred Americans.......   :wink:  cause most of my BS will probably sound a lot like his BS..... but with an upstate NY accent....:azn:

take care,

Ed

My father always tought me that USA have 50 states (it is 50 right?) and you can see each state as a country, all states are unique in their own way. So this gives me 50 reasons more to visit USA.  :cheesy: :bike-037:
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Guzzi Gal on December 04, 2021, 10:41:33 AM
The Grand Canyon via Vespa, 2019.
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Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Anomaly on December 04, 2021, 05:33:56 PM
As somewhat of an alternative approach to all the good suggestions you've already received... Get ahold of a road atlas that covers the 50 states--- actually what you want is the in the first few pages which is a single overview of the 48 contiguous states "the lower 48" as they say in Alaska) and the major/relatively major roads that run through all 48. Pick a road that looks interesting to you and plan your trip around that. For example, I-90 (for Interstate-90, the interstates are the biggest roads/freeways) runs east-west across the entire US, from Boston to Seattle. There is lots to see along any portion of that "route." I-80 does the same (runs east/west) but just a bit further south. On a lark, I once flew into to Dallas, picked up an old Toyota Tercel 4WD wagon I had bought for $600 sight unseen off Craigslist and drove it back to Rhode Island going across parts of middle-America that I had only visited as a child--Arkansas, Tennessee, ... Personally, given what little you have hinted at, I would fly into Minneapolis, rent a car or a bike and head west on the old US 2 highway. 2 runs east/west across the entire US just a bit south of the Canadian border but unlike the Interstates, you go right through the center of most of the small towns you intercept along the way (thus it is slower than sticking to the interstates). But 2 will take you through beautiful country in Minnesota, North Dakota, and into Montana where you can find real cowboys and Glacier National Park and Yellowstone and then on into Idaho and finally Washington state (time your trip to go to the Ellensburg Rodeo...). So 2 is just a suggestion, but following a road is the main idea. Maybe get a copy of the book "Blue Highways" and read that for some ideas (the book is a bit dated now but should still be relevant in terms of giving you some ideas). Let us know your plans when the trip is actually a reality!
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: SIR REAL ED on December 04, 2021, 05:42:00 PM
My father always tought me that USA have 50 states (it is 50 right?) and you can see each state as a country, all states are unique in their own way. So this gives me 50 reasons more to visit USA.  :cheesy: :bike-037:

Right you are!  Still 50!

Another idea is to look for roads with the same route number that are very long.  These will be the pre-interstate roads.

From my upstate NY days, I remembered a route 11/15 up by Lake Ontario.  Many years later, I noticed route 11/15 in Virginia.  IIRC, from looking at an atlas, route 11/15 ran all the way from Florida to New York.  I bet it would be a ride thru a lot of towns of various sizes.
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: lucian on December 04, 2021, 05:51:06 PM
If you're in Maine, let me know.

There are some beautiful places to see in New England, and some
great roads.

As others have said, North Carolina, various areas in New York State,
Pennsylvania, California, West Virginia, etc., etc. are beautiful.

                                            -Stretch

 Second that , Too much ground to cover in one trip but Maine isn't a bad place to see in the summer months. You will be welcome with open arm up here  . Glad to put you up if you come this far north.

                                               
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: adaven on December 04, 2021, 06:15:34 PM
Generalizations don't work. Any place you go, as a stranger on a strange motorcycle, you'll find interesting conversation. You'll have good and bad experiences, just like travelling anywhere. But they'll be your experiences and stories.
I like the idea of finding a long 2 lane road and noting how the landscape, architecture, industry, conversation, and accents change as you go.
If you can, touch base with the icons of our natural beauty, such as the Grand Canyon (go in if you can, all the way to the river if possible) or the coastal redwoods and giant sequoias. You kinda gotta see them to believe them.
Oh, and give a heads up here when you are on the move. I expect you'll get more invitations than you can handle.
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on December 04, 2021, 06:22:10 PM
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Oh, and give a heads up here when you are on the move. I expect you'll get more invitations than you can handle.

This..
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Rich A on December 04, 2021, 06:30:27 PM
Consider the four corners (NM, UT, CO, AZ). If you make it to Santa Fe, please feel free to get in touch.

Rich A
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Bulldog9 on December 04, 2021, 06:40:34 PM
I'd suggest DC.  So much of Americas History is in DC and the surrounding areas.

DC is a big 'City' but is loaded with historic neighborhoods, great restaurants, history and culture. Just south is Alexandria, and  Mount Vernon, and 45 minutes out of DC there are amazing towns with plenty of character in Virginia, Maryland and Pennsylvania. Just an hour South puts you in Front Royal and the start of the Blue Ridge Parkway (North section is 100 miles and called Skyline Drive). Eastern Long Island NY, Maine, and most of New England are also amazing with towns going back to the 1700's and all well preserved.

If you end up in DC next Summer, give me a call. Happy to show you around, even borrow one of the Guzzi's for some riding.

As others have said, the US us huge and extremely diverse. It all depends what you want.
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Bulldog9 on December 04, 2021, 06:45:38 PM
I can give you another place to land in the SE U.S. and have had several visitors over the years.  PM me.
-Mike-  (driving SAABs since 1973  :grin:)

SAABs?  I love and miss my SAABS... I had an 82 SPG Turbo that I put 5ooK on, then an 86 Turbo I gave to my son, and my last was a 2000 Viggen that was less than stellar.

Sorry to Hijack....
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Ncdan on December 04, 2021, 07:22:57 PM

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You making fun of my kin?🤔
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: yogidozer on December 04, 2021, 10:37:44 PM
You making fun of my kin?🤔
They're gonna put me in the movies
They're gonna make a big star out of me
We'll make a film about a man that's sad and lonely
And all I gotta do is act naturally
  :laugh:
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: AJ Huff on December 04, 2021, 11:18:43 PM
You making fun of my kin?🤔

You're from Rabun?

-AJ
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: aklawok on December 05, 2021, 12:18:13 AM
 Come on up to Nome Alaska fredrik! you will feel right at home on the tundra! look up our history of "the 3 lucky swedes" plenty of eskimos with pickup trucks lol! and I have the only Guzzi in town!
Iceland air has been doing some promotional(cheap) summer special direct over the pole flights to Anchorage for several years. dont know how ———is going to affect things but it has been something I have been looking at for some time! take a short cut!
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: ridingron on December 05, 2021, 12:35:14 AM
Yes, Miami is very Latino mostly Cuban. A lot of Cubans went to Miami and Tampa when Castro took over Cuba. Also a lot of Caribbean island folks in Miami.

Before you come to the States, realize how large the US is. Most States are similar in size to a European country. You can travel all day at 75 MPH and not make it across Texas maybe Tennessee and some other States.  Decide what is important to you to see. I would suggest selecting an area and talking to a couple of the guys from that area. Motorcycle riding roads and small towns? A large area north of Atlanta, Ga., eastern Tennessee & Kentucky, western N. Carolina, Virginia and W. Virginia has a vast sum of nice roads to ride and lots of small towns and historical sites to see. Most are less than 300 years old. Sorry, we got a late start.  :laugh: 

You can check with Wikipedia to get some information on towns or events.

https://www.wikipedia.org/

A link to Google maps below. Enter a town, then another to see a route, estimated travel time and how far apart they are.

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.5164322,-102.2174622,4z
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Fredrik on December 05, 2021, 06:11:15 AM
Thanks for all great replys, i really look forward to make a road trip in US! And now i know i have good support from all you Guzzi guys, it means alot.  :azn:
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: mtiberio on December 05, 2021, 06:14:58 AM
travel rt 66 oklahoma city to barstow
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Texas Turnip on December 05, 2021, 08:05:57 AM
travel rt 66 oklahoma city to barstow

Excellent choice and I've traveled all over the US for the last 63 years via motorcycle, semi, train, the dog (Greyhound) and car.
Tex
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: SIR REAL ED on December 05, 2021, 10:04:54 AM
Thanks for all great replys, i really look forward to make a road trip in US! And now i know i have good support from all you Guzzi guys, it means alot.  :azn:

For many years I worked for Frammatome/AREVA.  All the Europeans (French, Germans, Czechs, etc.) who came over here had some opinions in common.  At first, they were critical of the US & Americans (mostly from a political perspective).  After a few months, most said they wished their home country were more like America.

Almost all have said "Americans are much more friendly than Europeans."  I have tons of stories about that.

If you are not put off by people being friendly and going out of their way to offer advice on where to go and what to see, you will enjoy your trip immensely.

I suspect you might be able to live here for a couple years just based on invitations offered......
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Fredrik on December 05, 2021, 12:25:21 PM
For many years I worked for Frammatome/AREVA.  All the Europeans (French, Germans, Czechs, etc.) who came over here had some opinions in common.  At first, they were critical of the US & Americans (mostly from a political perspective).  After a few months, most said they wished their home country were more like America.

Almost all have said "Americans are much more friendly than Europeans."  I have tons of stories about that.

If you are not put off by people being friendly and going out of their way to offer advice on where to go and what to see, you will enjoy your trip immensely.

I suspect you might be able to live here for a couple years just based on invitations offered......

In my experience are most ordinary people very nice no matter what country. If we judge people after their politicians would all be idiots. I have met the nicest people ever in Russia, Japan, EU and the americans i have met in my work. All have been nice, so i dont think it is what nation a person come from that make them nice or not. One thing is certain and that is that idiots can be found in all nations. Many people in EU and US have same DNA and i think we are very alike in the daily life.  :cheesy:
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: SIR REAL ED on December 05, 2021, 02:29:57 PM
In my experience are most ordinary people very nice no matter what country. If we judge people after their politicians would all be idiots. I have met the nicest people ever in Russia, Japan, EU and the americans i have met in my work. All have been nice, so i dont think it is what nation a person come from that make them nice or not. One thing is certain and that is that idiots can be found in all nations. Many people in EU and US have same DNA and i think we are very alike in the daily life.  :cheesy:

I agree completely.  All people are individuals.  National characteristics, in my mind are very nebulous concepts.  Stereotyping always tells one more about the observer rather than the observed.  I was simply conveying some oberserations of my former co-workers.

No doubt most were talking about local cultures and their personal experiences, both here and in their home country.
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Scott of the Sahara on December 05, 2021, 03:00:05 PM
If you want to SEE some great sights, I think southern Utah and Northern Arizona have the most amazing sights to see.
Southern Utah has 5 National Parks as well as some state parks and Northern Arizona has the Grand Canyon.
You could take a week and not see everything.
Find an area that interests you and spend some time in that place.
If you are on two wheels, avoid the cities and stay away from the Interstates (freeways)
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Fredrik on December 05, 2021, 03:00:41 PM
I agree completely.  All people are individuals.  National characteristics, in my mind are very nebulous concepts.  Stereotyping always tells one more about the observer rather than the observed.  I was simply conveying some oberserations of my former co-workers.

No doubt most were talking about local cultures and their personal experiences, both here and in their home country.

It is pretty funny when i read jokes, memes etc. on Facebook that is from USA and think**** they have exactly the same **** as we do.  :grin:
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Gino on December 05, 2021, 04:27:11 PM
I can thoroughly recommend the USA and Canada, my wife and I spent six months on the road there, cool things to see and nice people everywhere. We have been in 28 states including Alaska, not a bad experience to be had (although I did get some unwanted police attention but it was deserved  :laugh)
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Fredrik on December 05, 2021, 04:34:48 PM
I can thoroughly recommend the USA and Canada, my wife and I spent six months on the road there, cool things to see and nice people everywhere. We have been in 28 states including Alaska, not a bad experience to be had (although I did get some unwanted police attention but it was deserved  :laugh)

I have seen many episodes of Cops and know the only way is to be honest and cooperate.  :grin:
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: LowRyter on December 05, 2021, 05:17:02 PM
Since I live in the part of the USA that you're talking about, I would recommend that you see New York City. 

For sure, see the country, the Black Hills and Grand Canyon are gorgeous.  And most American cities will have some local music, food and entertainment.  There's always New Orleans and Nashville.  Or ride on Rt 66 (until you get bored), I'll treat you to some biscuits and gravy at a local dinner.
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: SIR REAL ED on December 05, 2021, 06:39:06 PM
It is pretty funny when i read jokes, memes etc. on Facebook that is from USA and think**** they have exactly the same **** as we do.  :grin:

Amen,

IMO, any and all stimuli we humans encounter are truly Rorschach inkblots, and only the individual can form their personal perception.  In the words of Viktor Frankl "Between stimulus and response, man has the ability to choose."

Common cultures allow common meanings and interpretations.  But to try to guess what the next person you meet on the street will be like when they are still 50 feet away is almost always a loosing game.

Moving from Upstate New York to Virginia was a bit of a change.   Not as much as those who believe in the big difference between North US vs. South US would think.  That difference is mostly a myth in my personal experience.

I think population density affects culture more than many other things.  Slower pace of life, saying "Hello" to strangers, looking strangers in the eye, holding the door for someone 8 paces behind you, are things you are more likely to encounter in small towns, not big cities.

"All the people you meet will be a reflection of yourself." is timeless wisdom.  Those who look for the bad in humanity will never disappoint themselves by running short of supply.   :wink:

In my personal experience, the stranger who will look you in the eye is almost always worth talking to!

Based on your typing, your English is excellent.  Be prepared to get asked for your favorite Swedish Meatballs recipe!!!

So what is the Swedish Chef on the muppets singing anyway?   :laugh:
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: cliffrod on December 05, 2021, 07:05:43 PM
I hope you have a wonderful trip, Fredrik, including the autonomy to travel without feeling obligated to see everyone here who is responding.   It's not fun to have to hide from old or new friends when you visit an area.

With that said, I do believe that the WG community will be glad to provide you a safety net while traveling so you can have extra peace of mind to enjoy your travels.  Many here would be glad to spend a few minutes of good times with you.   But if you're in need while traveling and any of us are nearby & can provide some resource or assistance, I think that would make the same people much more happy to be part of your American experience.   

Don't be shy if we can help you have a better trip to the USA.
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: MMRanch on December 05, 2021, 08:44:11 PM
Fredrik

One days ride west of the "Tail of the Dragon" is Lynchburg Tn. Home of Jack Daniels.

If ya pass this way I'll gladly buy ya lunch and offer a spare room for the night.  :grin:

I enjoyed the part of the Route 66 I saw last year. 
................... ...............
Some of these sights on this post has me fired up to go see more of this country too !   

So , Guzzi Gal where is this one from ? 
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Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Tkelly on December 06, 2021, 08:52:06 AM
Check the Mgnoc site got rally dates and places,a lot of us plan trips between multiple rallies as they take place from April thru November in different locations.
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Dilliw on December 06, 2021, 09:34:12 AM
Another suggestion...  Try some of the budget airlines to cover a bit more ground.  I regularly use Allegiant to fly from Austin TX to Asheville, NC where my Griso is located.
From Austin you can also get to Bozeman, MT and back.  All flights are direct and cheap ($50-$100 USD one way based on luggage).   Frontier is another one.  Both have limited schedules but if time isn't an issue you can work that out.  You certainly would be welcome to stay with us if you need a few days in Texas (sorry we are not in a small town, however).

Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Fredrik on December 06, 2021, 10:33:58 AM
Another suggestion...  Try some of the budget airlines to cover a bit more ground.  I regularly use Allegiant to fly from Austin TX to Asheville, NC where my Griso is located.
From Austin you can also get to Bozeman, MT and back.  All flights are direct and cheap ($50-$100 USD one way based on luggage).   Frontier is another one.  Both have limited schedules but if time isn't an issue you can work that out.  You certainly would be welcome to stay with us if you need a few days in Texas (sorry we are not in a small town, however).

Thank you so much, i appreciate.  :cheesy:
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: jrt on December 06, 2021, 02:03:19 PM
travel rt 66 oklahoma city to barstow

Start a little earlier (east-er-er) and come through St. Louis.  Good Jazz and Blues scene, good food, good roads and we are 'the Gateway to the West'. 
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: jumpmaster on December 06, 2021, 02:46:42 PM
As somewhat of an alternative approach to all the good suggestions you've already received... Get ahold of a road atlas that covers the 50 states--- actually what you want is the in the first few pages which is a single overview of the 48 contiguous states "the lower 48" as they say in Alaska) and the major/relatively major roads that run through all 48. Pick a road that looks interesting to you and plan your trip around that. For example, I-90 (for Interstate-90, the interstates are the biggest roads/freeways) runs east-west across the entire US, from Boston to Seattle. There is lots to see along any portion of that "route." I-80 does the same (runs east/west) but just a bit further south. On a lark, I once flew into to Dallas, picked up an old Toyota Tercel 4WD wagon I had bought for $600 sight unseen off Craigslist and drove it back to Rhode Island going across parts of middle-America that I had only visited as a child--Arkansas, Tennessee, ... Personally, given what little you have hinted at, I would fly into Minneapolis, rent a car or a bike and head west on the old US 2 highway. 2 runs east/west across the entire US just a bit south of the Canadian border but unlike the Interstates, you go right through the center of most of the small towns you intercept along the way (thus it is slower than sticking to the interstates). But 2 will take you through beautiful country in Minnesota, North Dakota, and into Montana where you can find real cowboys and Glacier National Park and Yellowstone and then on into Idaho and finally Washington state (time your trip to go to the Ellensburg Rodeo...). So 2 is just a suggestion, but following a road is the main idea. Maybe get a copy of the book "Blue Highways" and read that for some ideas (the book is a bit dated now but should still be relevant in terms of giving you some ideas). Let us know your plans when the trip is actually a reality!

What a great suggestion!  I would add US 50 and/or US 40 as alternates - similar east-west general direction but though the central parts of the country.  Maybe detour around the really major cities it passes through (i.e. Indianapolis, St. Louis, Kansas City, etc.) unless there are some "touristy" things there that you really want to see - all these places do have sights worth seeing/visiting, but the additional time dealing with urban traffic, etc. may not fit into your schedule &, honestly, American major cities are really pretty generic and for the most part reflect only one part of the American experience.  The downside of this approach is that there can be looonnng stretches, especially in the central US, that you can't avoid and taking the US routes rather than the I- routes can take a lot longer to cross the less interesting parts of the trip.  On the other hand, the "wide open spaces" are part of the American cultural background and psyche & the US routes go through rather than around lots of smaller cities, towns and villages, with a wealth of interesting/friendly people and good, more traditional American food.

An additional suggestion:  once you have a basic route decided, sign up for or just check TourofHonor.com, which lists 7 specific military &/or first responder monuments for just about each state in the USA.  Many, if not most, of these monument sites are in small towns & you can pick some of them that are not too far off your basic route in order to almost guarantee that you will find some less busy roads and "American Heartland" towns along the way.  Strike up conversations with locals in these towns - at the gas station, local restaurant, etc. (even the local police station or post office, if they're not busy) and you will be surprised and pleased at the information they will be glad to give you about the area & other notable features of the town & area.  My wife & I have been participating in this tour for probably 10 years now & we never fail to be surprised at how we find really nice monuments in small towns that you would think couldn't afford to build something so nice - and they are flattered if you show some interest in these local projects.  Well worth at least a few detours off your main route.  We visited about 15 of them on a California-to-Maryland trip and didn't regret taking a detour for any of them.
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Steve Scott on December 08, 2021, 12:00:18 PM
Fredrik,
 I'm jealous... heck, I live here and I'd like to take your trip!
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Fredrik on December 08, 2021, 02:22:34 PM
Fredrik,
 I'm jealous... heck, I live here and I'd like to take your trip!

Just do it!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Fredrik on December 08, 2021, 02:25:22 PM
I hope the Corona situation not will close borders again, but who knows.

My plan i also to drive down to Rome and stop at Mandelo del Lario on the way.  :bike-037:
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Tom on December 08, 2021, 02:39:54 PM
Y'ep.  50 states.  Being out in the middle of the Pacific in Hawaii, the U.S. is a big country.  I use to go to Europe to do a moto vacation.  2 flights out of Kona and I'd be in Munich or Rome.  Amazing to travel just in the U.S.  Good luck with your travels.  The country is really diverse.  I don't think you'll go wrong.
Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: vintagehoarder on December 10, 2021, 09:57:29 AM
If you get around Kentucky way plenty of great roads, horse farms, the bourbon trail, and small town American to be found.  Give us a shout if you get by this way!

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Title: Re: Visit USA
Post by: Fredrik on December 11, 2021, 04:27:55 AM
If you get around Kentucky way plenty of great roads, horse farms, the bourbon trail, and small town American to be found.  Give us a shout if you get by this way!

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Looks wonderful, thanks!  :cheesy: