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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2015, 09:54:11 AM »
Aren't the tires on the Eldo smaller than on the other Cali 1400 variants?

Fat 16-inchers front and rear, if I recall correctly.  I think they're adding visual weight.

New rear fender add some visual weight, as well.

Interesting, looking at the last photo from Aldo, the front wheel appears to have an angled air valve, so that would mean ALPINA wheels! And, that's a good thing!
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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2015, 10:04:36 AM »
Looks fabulous.  I love the traditional tail lights - hate the embedded ones on the other variants.  I guess some folks will say this bike is going flash and attempting to steal sales - and maybe it is - but to me it's almost like a big middle finger to those bikes.  You want flashy fancy pants?  Here's your flashy fancy pants. 

I follow Ewan on Instagram and he's been posting today and yesterday while, I guess, shooting a new ad for these MGs. 

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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2015, 10:39:34 AM »
With the chrome panels as eyes and the seat as a beak it looks like an angry duck.  8)

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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2015, 10:41:20 AM »
None of these on the MG USA website. 
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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2015, 10:41:20 AM »

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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2015, 10:42:47 AM »
gawd that is beautiful, but I could do with thinner or no white walls...


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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2015, 10:44:04 AM »
None of these on the MG USA website. 

They're due here in May, so www.motoguzzi-us.com website will be promptly updated in late June.

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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2015, 10:47:09 AM »
too bad we don't get red in the USA (this year), only black...


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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2015, 10:49:24 AM »
Fat 16-inchers front and rear, if I recall correctly.  I think they're adding visual weight.


But the actual rear tire is THINNER than the Cali 1400 C and T which also has a 16" rear wheel?:

Cali 1400 Touring

Front tire 130/70 R 18”
Rear tire 200/60 R 16”

Cali 1400 Eldo

Front tire 130/90 R 16”
Rear tire 180/65 R 16”


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Front Tire - couldn't find a spec, presume same as C and T
Rear Tire 200/65 R 17"


Or are you saying that up front the additional sidewall of the 130/90 on the Eldo looks "bigger" than the 130/70 on the C and T?
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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2015, 10:51:27 AM »
Chrome the fenders and replace the white walls with black walls.


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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2015, 10:51:45 AM »
None of these on the MG USA website. 

Nor the Italy website either...
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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #40 on: April 27, 2015, 10:51:51 AM »
Yeah.  I'm meaning the taller sidewalls, along with the new fenders, changes the look a little bit.

I kind of like it, myself, but then the 130 front is a classic size for big bikes.
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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2015, 10:53:57 AM »
Yeah.  I'm meaning the taller sidewalls, along with the new fenders, changes the look a little bit.

I kind of like it, myself, but then the 130 front is a classic size for big bikes.

Especially in a 16.

Yeah, I don't have a problem with the front, it's the gawdawful 200 rear that I don't like, at least the Eldo is "down" to a 180, but that's still big in my book.
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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2015, 10:54:44 AM »
Are the Eldorado handlebars the same as on the current Touring? They certainly aren't what's on my Custom... or is this yet a third variant?
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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2015, 11:58:35 AM »



I'd ride it.

That's a really nice looking motorcycle!
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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2015, 01:27:12 PM »
I'd ride it.

That's a really nice looking motorcycle!

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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #45 on: April 27, 2015, 08:02:51 PM »



It would make a great "bookend" in my garage   ;-T


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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #46 on: April 27, 2015, 09:36:33 PM »
Love it! I'd like the red bike better if it had white fenders and I could do without the whitewalls.
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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #47 on: May 01, 2015, 10:45:24 PM »
My 2014 Cali 1400 Custom has the angled valve stems...

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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #48 on: May 02, 2015, 06:47:23 AM »
Absolutely stunning!  If I weren't approaching the end my riding career, I'd order one now.

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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #49 on: May 09, 2015, 01:41:56 PM »
Is the new Eldorado really 250 pounds lighter than a 1400 Custom? That's hard to believe.  :BEER:
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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #50 on: May 09, 2015, 02:02:30 PM »
Right off of Moto Guzzi`s Website. It says 401lbs for the New Eldo ???   http://www.motoguzzi-us.com/

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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #51 on: May 09, 2015, 02:03:29 PM »
Where in the wide world of sports did you read that figure  ???

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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #52 on: May 09, 2015, 02:11:12 PM »
No way in hell.  That's V7 territory.
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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #53 on: May 09, 2015, 02:24:39 PM »
Kilograms maybe  ;D

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That would make it a lot heavier than the Custom! :BEER:
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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #54 on: May 09, 2015, 03:47:52 PM »
No way in hell.  That's V7 territory.

Maybe 400 lbs is the maximum weight for the RIDER  ~;
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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #55 on: May 09, 2015, 04:12:13 PM »
obviously a typo. not uncommon on guzzi literature over the years. The rear tire and rear fender are smaller, but the rear fender was plastic to begin with so not much to save. The Eldo rims look steel, I doubt they are lighter then the original touring/custom wheels. In other words, it will probably weigh what the Custom does, around 680# +-
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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #56 on: May 09, 2015, 04:13:04 PM »
Typo.
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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #57 on: May 09, 2015, 05:58:33 PM »
I posted this earlier in the week on another thread (rode the red bike). 
http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=76285.msg1200326#msg1200326

I see the Eldo is on the MG USA website.  And the spec says:  Dry weight   401 lbs (182 kg)   (I am sure that's a misprint)

Anyway, they're on their way for delivery. 


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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #58 on: May 09, 2015, 06:29:13 PM »
New light weight unobtaitium materials and using light weight oils....   :BEER:
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Re: 2015 Eldorado 1400 merged threadfest
« Reply #59 on: May 09, 2015, 06:46:24 PM »
Is the new Eldorado really 250 pounds lighter than a 1400 Custom? That's hard to believe.  :BEER:

The 2015 Brochure says the Eldorado is 692 lbs dry, 743 lbs for the Touring. Pigs!
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