Brakes: sintered vs. kevlar vs. organic??

[Steve Cas]

I put an allen key in it and hit it with a rubber mallet but it would not come out. So...hit it harder and the pin and spring loaded clip should come out? And once it comes out is it relatively easy to put the spring loaded clip back in?  ???

If you still can't get it out let me know and I will stop by and give you a hand.

[rocker59]

Strongly advise against using sintered HH pads on cast iron rotors. Used them on my T3 with stock one piece cast iron rotors (albeit only on the hand brake only side, pretty weak as it comes). Worked great for a while, then warped the rotor-twice. 

You might be lucky like Rocker 59, or you might not. I know EBC specifically says their HH pads are not suitable for use on cast iron rotors, and my experience has very much reflected that.

There is a huge difference in the 1-piece 1970s vintage cast iron rotors and in the 1990s vintage full-floating iron superbike rotors.  Apples and oranges.

I wouldn't use EBC HH on the old bikes, but I have had no issues with EBC HH on my rotors over years of use.

But, as always, YMMV...

[Dilliw]

I'm going to be the odd man out on this one, but I use EBC HH pads on my Sport 1100.  About a dozen years ago I picked up a set of used full-floating  Ducati Brembo rotors with aluminum carriers and cast iron rotors.  These were fitted to the 900SS/SP and maybe some of the S-model superbikes in the 1990s.  At the same time I fitted a Brembo GP front master cylinder.

They've been great.  No fade.  Good performance in all weather.  Great performance when warm to hot, like at a track day or riding hard in the mountains.  No complaints, and they haven't worn the rotors out yet.

I do ride "the pace" and don't use a lot of brake in normal riding...

My '03 EV has the same rotors courtesy of the original owner and I run the EBC organics with them.  I imagine they would be pretty aggressive with the HH pads instead.

Even though I do have the iron rotors, I like the organics up front and the HH in the rear. 

Lots of different opinions!

[Gootsz]

For you middle of road guys they now make a EBC SEMI SINTERED pad set. best or worst of both worlds. i put them on my Jackal and like them very much.

micky

[190 Octane]

For you middle of road guys they now make a EBC SEMI SINTERED pad set. best or worst of both worlds. i put them on my Jackal and like them very much.

micky

I ran across the semi sintered when looking for pads, I was wondering how well they worked.  On my Titanium I put Kevlar organics up front and HH pads on the rear, in order to gain a little more rear bias out of the foot brake.  I may go the to the semi sintered up front, the Kevlar organics really make a mess of the front wheel.

[Dimples]

Okay, I'll chime-in with my own experience for what it's worth. I had posted the "sintered + iron" question previously after rebuilding the brakes on the LM 3.

Greg Field responded that rotor wear would be increased, but the additional braking was worth it in his opinion. So, the EBC HH pads have been on that bike now for 1,500 miles. The difference is remarkable. Especially when grabbing only the right lever which activates just one dinky caliper. I'm not a fan of the old linked system, but retained it for originality. The rotor(s) has not warped and that the braking is very much improved. Eventual wear is not important to me in this case. I didn't see any notice on the EBC site recommending against the use of HH pads with cast iron motorcycle rotors.

Regarding the original poster's question-- I primarily ride the Sport 1100 and Nero, both with EBC organic pads and Brembo stainless rotors and don't feel the HH sintered pads are necessary.