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NGC- getting feet fixed- looking for outcomes
« on: August 10, 2022, 07:39:28 PM »
Years of wearing cheap shoes while working on my feet have left me with mishappen and painful feet. The misallignment causes me great pain in my hip and knees, so I am getting the right one fixed in three weeks, and the left 12 weeks after. Has anyone here gone through this, and are you satisfied with the results? Bunions, hammer toes, and my toes angled about 45 degrees to the outside... they say it will hurt like hell for a couple of weeks each time. Guzzi content- I want to be able to comfortably wear boots and feel the shifter and brake lever. I also need it all done in one year so my max out of pocket expenses are capped by insurance. I am cheap, after all.
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Re: NGC- getting feet fixed- looking for outcomes
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2022, 07:53:34 PM »
I’m 50 now.. on my 40th birthday I woke up and stepped out of bed to screaming pain in my left heel. What the heck?? What’s this? Plantar fasciitis.  Fine.  Got cheap inserts and got by for couple years. Older buddy sold me on getting custom orthotics for 500 bucks out of pocket. No insurance. Best thing I ever did. Fixed all the bad angles. I’m probably due for another set but I’m cheap!
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Re: NGC- getting feet fixed- looking for outcomes
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2022, 10:53:46 PM »
"I am cheap, after all".  You said it.  That automatically qualifies you for "Guzzi Content".

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Re: NGC- getting feet fixed- looking for outcomes
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2022, 02:45:28 AM »
Ryan, responses are slow......

Probably because there's not much first-hand experience on the board.
But I'd guess there's quite a bit of experience with how it's worked out on wives / spesial others.

The outcome will depend on how bad you have it, and how good your surgeon is. IOW  a huge spectre of outcomes.
So, if you're lucky, you might be able to comfortably wear boots.
If not, you might require, uh, tailor-made footwear for the rest of your life, and repeated surgery.

Be kind to your feet!

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Re: NGC- getting feet fixed- looking for outcomes
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Re: NGC- getting feet fixed- looking for outcomes
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2022, 06:28:41 AM »
Years of wearing cheap shoes while working on my feet have left me with mishappen and painful feet. The misallignment causes me great pain in my hip and knees, so I am getting the right one fixed in three weeks, and the left 12 weeks after. Has anyone here gone through this, and are you satisfied with the results? Bunions, hammer toes, and my toes angled about 45 degrees to the outside... they say it will hurt like hell for a couple of weeks each time. Guzzi content- I want to be able to comfortably wear boots and feel the shifter and brake lever. I also need it all done in one year so my max out of pocket expenses are capped by insurance. I am cheap, after all.

I'm an orthotist (not fancy-- an orthopedic brace guy).   Your problems can not be fixed with inserts/arch supports/orthotics.  I'm sure you know that by now.

I've seen many, many folks after foot surgery.  My advice: find the local specialist surgeon.  Most surgeons would rather operate on anything rather than feet.  That includes brains and hearts.  Why?  As you've found out, feet are remarkably complicated little machines with lots of little parts inside, lots of articulations.  A specialist foot surgeon will understand that.  A general orthopedic surgeon will not.  Most larger areas have surgeons who specialize in feet.  Find that person.  Ask local orthotists or physical therapists or doctors.  Ask google for reviews.  You may have to travel to that person.  Do it. 

After the surgery, follow the protocol that the surgeon lays out.  Exactly.  If he tells you to stay off the post-op foot, stay off the damn thing.  Even if it means using a walking boot or knee scooter to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night.

Foot surgery can work great.  Just make sure you see a specialist and do exactly what he says. 

Except for one thing.  Your surgeon may tell you that you don't need arch supports after surgery.  I'd get some anyway.  They won't hurt anything and they can help you be more comfortable.  Cheap ones usually work fine.

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Re: NGC- getting feet fixed- looking for outcomes
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2022, 03:00:32 PM »
Thank you for the advice and insight. I am at the point where it is surgery or near constant numbness, tingling, outright pain, or an odd combination of all three. I live in an area where lots of people want to be, so one of the top foot surgeons in Oregon is local to me and he is doing the job. He warned me that he would do everything as well as possible, but if I was a dick about the recovery I could undo it in a minute. I appreciated his frankness and you have echoed that concern so I will be even more careful.

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Re: NGC- getting feet fixed- looking for outcomes
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2022, 01:53:11 AM »
I also have plantar fasciitis. I went to the Good Feet Store and got set up. Once a year I go back and have my insoles replaced for free.
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Re: NGC- getting feet fixed- looking for outcomes
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2022, 06:27:52 AM »
Fwiw, I've been wearing othotics in my shoes for over a decade.  The days of me walking around in bare feet for me are definitely over.  I can stand & walk for hours without trouble as long as I'm in my orthotic equipped shoes.  My orthotics cost about $300 a pair.  When I was working my HC provider picked up 2/3 of the cost but these days it is all out of my pocket, Medicare doesn't pick up any of it. The pair I have in my "old" work boots are are about 14 years old, leather covered and still perform perfectly in giving me the support I apparently need.  I gave up wearing tennis shoes for a while because because I couldn't stand or walk in them but then tried an inexpensive pair of Dr Scholls insoles and they helped quite a bit for light ambling.  Yeah, I've had gout & plantar faciitis...both suck & are very uncomfortable, good luck with your feet.
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Re: NGC- getting feet fixed- looking for outcomes
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2022, 07:17:01 AM »
I'm an orthotist (not fancy-- an orthopedic brace guy).   Your problems can not be fixed with inserts/arch supports/orthotics.  I'm sure you know that by now.

I've seen many, many folks after foot surgery.  My advice: find the local specialist surgeon.  Most surgeons would rather operate on anything rather than feet.  That includes brains and hearts.  Why?  As you've found out, feet are remarkably complicated little machines with lots of little parts inside, lots of articulations.  A specialist foot surgeon will understand that.  A general orthopedic surgeon will not.  Most larger areas have surgeons who specialize in feet.  Find that person.  Ask local orthotists or physical therapists or doctors.  Ask google for reviews.  You may have to travel to that person.  Do it. 

After the surgery, follow the protocol that the surgeon lays out.  Exactly.  If he tells you to stay off the post-op foot, stay off the damn thing.  Even if it means using a walking boot or knee scooter to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night.

Foot surgery can work great.  Just make sure you see a specialist and do exactly what he says. 

Except for one thing.  Your surgeon may tell you that you don't need arch supports after surgery.  I'd get some anyway.  They won't hurt anything and they can help you be more comfortable.  Cheap ones usually work fine.

^^THIS^^  is absolutely spot on.

Other than having Plantar Fasciitis since 2004 and custom orthotics made ever 3-4 years, and a broken ankle, I have been blessed with healthy feet and no issues other than blacktoenails after marathons and long hikes.

The advice for a SPECIALIST and to completely follow the protocols and therapy before and after surgery are spot on. Had total hip and knee replacements in 2020. Followed the advice and followed the protocols, and 2 years later it is easy to forget I was hacked to pieces not too long ago.
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Re: NGC- getting feet fixed- looking for outcomes
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2022, 12:58:35 PM »
Had the second arthritic hammer toe fixed on my right foot last March.  First one a few years ago.  Six month recovery, 6 weeks in a boot, then a walking shoe for a bit longer.  It will take a while to heal and there will be pain.  On the other hand I couldn't walk without serious pain before each surgery.  The post surgery instructions weren't difficult to follow.  Good luck!

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Re: NGC- getting feet fixed- looking for outcomes
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2022, 03:03:39 PM »
Encountered the dreaded planters ailment years ago.  Began the journey of inserts/shoes/doctors/days of unbearable pain/lots of money spent/very compromised lifestyle/etc.  At one point, was sharing with someone who'd been there w/worse issues than I had, and they had recently found a path of healing that was working!  Sweet!  Directed me to 'Northwest Foot and Ankle' (https://www.nwfootankle.com/) and Dr. Ray's journey to healing and his alternative treatment, including Correct Toes.

After loads of studying, I thought 'what the heck?' and jumped in w/both feet (pun intended):  Changed shoes;  started using the Correct Toes;  did some of the other suggestions on his site.

Cure didn't happen overnite, but, w/in a 6 mo. period after making changes, I could tell I was on the 'correct' path.  Now, 8 +years later, I am good to go.  I can honestly say that I no longer deal with foot pain from planters..... period.  The foot doctors, during earlier treatment, told me that I'd never do things like:  go hiking, climb a ladder, get on a roof, jogging, or anything that stresses the feet.  I can do all of those tasks easily (well, as easily as a guy north of 70 is able to do..... :cool:)

Obviously, YMMV, but I can say that the insights and education re. the workings of the foot were very helpful for me to understand what was going on w/my feet, and why alternative treatment made sense.  All of my foot doctors had followed the same format:  shots in the foot (I still have nightmares about those-  almost more painful than the ailment they were intended to address);  rigid inserts;  more restrictive footwear.  Who knew that my solution lie in going the opposite way!

I wish you the best in getting treatment that works for you.  I don't think I've ever suffered more pain than my time w/planters.
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ps  I have no affiliation w/Northwest Foot and Ankle;  my sharing is more along the lines of 'one beggar telling another beggar where he found food'.

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Re: NGC- getting feet fixed- looking for outcomes
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2022, 03:58:02 PM »
Years of wearing cheap shoes while working on my feet have left me with mishappen and painful feet. The misallignment causes me great pain in my hip and knees, so I am getting the right one fixed in three weeks, and the left 12 weeks after. Has anyone here gone through this, and are you satisfied with the results? Bunions, hammer toes, and my toes angled about 45 degrees to the outside... they say it will hurt like hell for a couple of weeks each time. Guzzi content- I want to be able to comfortably wear boots and feel the shifter and brake lever. I also need it all done in one year so my max out of pocket expenses are capped by insurance. I am cheap, after all.

I am also and orthotist and have seen a lot of people post op for custom orthotics.  Are you having a podiatrist do this procedure or an orthopedic surgeon who specializes in feet do it? I have seen a big difference in outcomes between those 2 different kinds of surgeons. It sounds like you are having all your toes realigned? From what you have written it will be a lot of rehab even when done correctly. You have to be in a cast and or a boot and not weight bear for weeks on end. After you start to walk the hard part will be getting your range of motion back as those toes will tighten up after surgery. But that is the nature of the beast. You will work hard to get it back but it should be worth it.
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Re: NGC- getting feet fixed- looking for outcomes
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2022, 05:46:19 PM »
Encountered the dreaded planters ailment years ago.  Began the journey of inserts/shoes/doctors/days of unbearable pain/lots of money spent/very compromised lifestyle/etc.  At one point, was sharing with someone who'd been there w/worse issues than I had, and they had recently found a path of healing that was working!  Sweet!  Directed me to 'Northwest Foot and Ankle' (https://www.nwfootankle.com/) and Dr. Ray's journey to healing and his alternative treatment, including Correct Toes.

After loads of studying, I thought 'what the heck?' and jumped in w/both feet (pun intended):  Changed shoes;  started using the Correct Toes;  did some of the other suggestions on his site.

Cure didn't happen overnite, but, w/in a 6 mo. period after making changes, I could tell I was on the 'correct' path.  Now, 8 +years later, I am good to go.  I can honestly say that I no longer deal with foot pain from planters..... period.  The foot doctors, during earlier treatment, told me that I'd never do things like:  go hiking, climb a ladder, get on a roof, jogging, or anything that stresses the feet.  I can do all of those tasks easily (well, as easily as a guy north of 70 is able to do..... :cool:)

Obviously, YMMV, but I can say that the insights and education re. the workings of the foot were very helpful for me to understand what was going on w/my feet, and why alternative treatment made sense.  All of my foot doctors had followed the same format:  shots in the foot (I still have nightmares about those-  almost more painful than the ailment they were intended to address);  rigid inserts;  more restrictive footwear.  Who knew that my solution lie in going the opposite way!

I wish you the best in getting treatment that works for you.  I don't think I've ever suffered more pain than my time w/planters.
Rick
ps  I have no affiliation w/Northwest Foot and Ankle;  my sharing is more along the lines of 'one beggar telling another beggar where he found food'.

Mine blew out in Iraq in 2002. Fine after walking around for a bit, but after sitting or getting up in the morning was horrible pain. Had no idea, till my DOC noticed my pain and hobbling after a staff meeting. He got me referred and hooked up. In addition to the inserts that I still wear every day in most shoes, for 6 months, I had to roll my arches on bottles of frozen water before bed, then wear splints/boots to bed every night for 6 months. Thankfully all healed up and I didn't need surgery.

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Re: NGC- getting feet fixed- looking for outcomes
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2022, 11:39:32 PM »
My feet issues were very minor compared to yours, but I concur, foot pain is up at the top of the charts.

For years I wore the cheapest $2 felony flyer sneakers I could find, then one year I spent the summer lounging around in cheap moccasins & sandals with zero support.

Both my arches fell, any weight at all on my feet and the pain was like nothing else,

I cured it by nursing my feet along and wearing some extremely expensive orthotic type shoes, Finn Comforts? 400-500 Canadian, for quite a few years.

I no longer wear the really expensive Orthotic style shoes, but I now spend whatever it takes to have good quality shoes with decent support, and I do a little self physio maintenance to keep my feet mobile & pain free.

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