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jackren:
Hi everybody,

I own a 2020 V85TT since half a year , and like it a lot. This is my first street bike ( 35 years motor license , till now mostly enduro bikes)
I would like to get a bit(lot) more power , but specially torque out of the bike.
I installed big header pipes, decat y-pipe, dominator muffler and did sas remove.
Now I want to remap the ecu.
You read a lot of differnt opinoins on this on the web, and I was In doubt on which mapping option to choose.
Has anybody here experience with upmap and the maps from Beetle?  what is the difference in  power , torque output?

thanks,

Jack

Caffeineo:
Beetle MAP. My V85 is E5 so can not be done yet except with upmap. Got a Beetle MAP for my Bobber Sport. It ran good but was just better with the Beetle MAP. Seemed to rev faster and still got 50 MPG.

Dave Swanson:
BEETLE. 

I have an E5 V85 so am still waiting for a Beetle map for it, even though it doesn't need it.   :grin:  I have used Beetle maps on 3 other bikes, and they were all great.  I am sure the V85 E4 map is a good one. 

jackren:
I had contact with Mark (Beetle) and he said his mapping for the V85TT won't give any power increase , just a more liniar power curve.
I find that hard to believe with  the other mods I did and then a remapping, is he just modest?
While the company behind upmap promises huge power and torque gains.
I prefer doing the mapping with free software like guzzidiag so I have more control and also learn a bit about the whole proccess.

Kev m:

I trust Marc implicitly with these things. He's not doing it for the money.

I don't trust (the claims made by) companies that market this crap.

Can you increase the hp/torque on modern motors? - sure, of course you can when you get rid of the unintended consequences of EPA/EU regulations. But, those consequences happen in increasingly small areas (throttle response at x rpm) not through the whole band where Marc will tell you the map was already rich.

And you've changed other factors, exhaust, air cleaner which is fine. But what matters for peak hp is the point of most restriction. Did you change that or was it the throttle body or valve train? And how have the changes effected flow? Like the straight pipes of Harley yore - did you completely trash your low speed torque for a few high rpm ponies where you'll spend only 10% of your time?

Because all components need to work together.

So you might get something - if done really well you might make a few more hp and possibly even be MORE efficient at parts of the map.

But if not done well you'll likely wind up with worse mileage or performance at parts of the map while polluting your oil with byproducts of combustion as you ride around grinning like an idiot at the 2 more hp you made that you think is 20 because it's louder.

OK - so all that said, who is most likely to give you a decent shop at the former instead of the latter? Marc - no question about that.

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