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« on: May 26, 2009, 07:11:21 PM »
In the current issue of Australian Motorcycle News 27th May, 2009 they have a pic of a 1600cc Guzzi Californian? Is this for real? :o
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Re: 1600CC Californian Coming?
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2009, 07:18:49 PM »


post a link and or pics.........

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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2009, 07:25:39 PM »
whew, I hope so.
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Re: 1600CC Californian Coming?
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2009, 08:13:53 PM »
Just googled..no info or pics  ???
Would get a few bums on seats here in OZ...
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2009, 08:20:19 PM »
Is it common for Guzzi to anounce a new model in Australia?  Maybe we should check their website.   ::)

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Re: 1600CC Californian Coming?
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2009, 08:22:38 PM »
Is this for real?


The 1900cc 1984 Cal2 didn't go over too well...

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Re: 1600CC Californian Coming?
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2009, 09:07:01 PM »
Is this for real?


The 1900cc 1984 Cal2 didn't go over too well...


Is that bike real?  They made a 4 cylinder? 

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Re: 1600CC Californian Coming?
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2009, 09:08:30 PM »
same question
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Re: 1600CC Californian Coming?
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2009, 09:11:52 PM »
Just called John Sample the Australian Moto Guzzi Importer. It is happening but not known how long or if it will make Australia. It is air cooled by the way. Apparently it is to compete against the Triumph 1600 as a lot of interest has been shown for that motorcycle.
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Re: 1600CC Californian Coming?
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2009, 09:15:16 PM »
Is this for real?


The 1900cc 1984 Cal2 didn't go over too well...


Is that bike real?  They made a 4 cylinder? 

Bogus photoshop.  There's also a 6 cylinder Centauro pic out there, too. 

But Guzzi did make 4 cylinder bikes. 
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Re: 1600CC Californian Coming?
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2009, 09:21:22 PM »


I dont know why i even asked that question actually....

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Re: 1600CC Californian Coming?
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2009, 09:23:13 PM »
Bogus photoshop.

Oh, come on; it's not a bogus photoshop--it's a real photoshop; took me half a minute, at least, to do.

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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2009, 09:36:44 PM »
I liked that photshop bike, you have the idea, niw build a real ine. My grandad was a drad racer in the mid 60's. he linked 4 289's to gether in a dragster. they outlawed him, he only do exobisons after that. it could lay smoke all the way down the 1/4, but was a female dog to stop!
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Re: 1600CC Californian Coming?
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2009, 09:39:22 PM »
The rumor has been out there for awhile that the next California would be heavily updated and would probably have a 1400cc version of the new engine...  

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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2009, 09:39:36 PM »
That was actually a one off special made for a double above the knee amputee who wanted more power. He has a long legged personal aid who always passengers and holds the bike up for him at stop lights.

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Re: 1600CC Californian Coming?
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2009, 11:05:44 PM »
In the current issue of Australian Motorcycle News 27th May, 2009 they have a pic of a 1600cc Guzzi Californian? Is this for real? :o

Now you have spoiled it for me. I was about to go buy AMCN, should i bother ?. Anything else in there worth reading ?
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« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2009, 11:10:22 PM »
There is a large capacity sport bike comparo but only MV, KTM and Ducati European Bikes. I won't tell you who won... ;D

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« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2009, 11:38:16 PM »
There is a large capacity sport bike comparo but only MV, KTM and Ducati European Bikes. I won't tell you who won... ;D


Huh, now you won't tell me, so i'll have to go buy it  ;)
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« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2009, 05:08:31 AM »
Is it common for Guzzi to anounce a new model in Australia?  Maybe we should check their website.   ::)

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New US-spec models are usually announced at the annual, winter Ulaan Bator Motorcycle, Scooter and Camel Show in mid January.  Less chance of spoilers from HD et al.

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« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2009, 05:21:51 AM »
Bogus photoshop.

Oh, come on; it's not a bogus photoshop--it's a real photoshop; took me half a minute, at least, to do.

ROFL!!!!

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« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2009, 05:25:26 AM »
I liked that photshop bike, you have the idea, niw build a real ine. My grandad was a drad racer in the mid 60's. he linked 4 289's to gether in a dragster. they outlawed him, he only do exobisons after that. it could lay smoke all the way down the 1/4, but was a female dog to stop!

Troy. think about it for a moment.

Where are the exhaust gasses going to go from the back cylinder? How is the new charge going to get into the front one? These aren't simply constraints of engineering, they are constraints of reality.

Also what the hell is an exobison??? A buffalo with a shell?? ;D

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« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2009, 05:34:10 AM »
Also what the hell is an exobison??? A buffalo with a shell?? ;D

You said you weren't interested in that sort of stuff.......

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« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2009, 05:51:19 AM »
From what I understand, people did a lot of hallucinogenic drugs in the 60's. There were all kinds of weird exhibition drag cars. "hemi under glass" and the "hairy hurst oldsmobile" are a couple of the more famous ones. The olds had a pair of 425 cu inch motors, one of which was in the trunk. a pair of fwd toronado transaxles put the power down. Four wheel drive burnouts in 1966!!!
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« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2009, 07:04:57 AM »
I'll be the first to admit my typing aint worth a !@#$, exabition was what I ment to say. I took typing in the 11th grade. 14 words a minute with 500 mistakes, I took the class for 2 reasons. the class was full of girls, I also needed the credit to graduate. I now about the evaust pipe, I just liked the look. Does my typing remind any one of buckwheats speech?
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« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2009, 07:13:53 AM »
Troy, my spelling in none too crash hot either. It was a joke. But I did like the idea of an Exobison! ;D

Look 1600cc. Really, so what? I'm sure it will be a huge attraction for those who feel challenged in the naughty bits region, (If the barrels can be hogged out enough? They do have a lot of meat in the spigots.) but whether it will make the bike appreciably 'Better' than a similar machine with the current capacity format is dubious. Look at the current 'Pushrod'/2-valve engines. Which one would I pick to power a bike for me? The Bellagio motor, in a heartbeat, but it's the second smallest engine in the Big Block range. A 950 Griso with that motor in would be a superb 'Brain in Bucket' tool, especially if you could shorten the wheelbase by a couple of inches.

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« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2009, 07:19:13 AM »



Also what the hell is an exobison??? A buffalo with a shell?? ;D

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« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2009, 07:28:08 AM »
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Where are the exhaust gasses going to go from the back cylinder? How is the new charge going to get into the front one? These aren't simply constraints of engineering, they are constraints of reality.

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Re: 1600CC Californian Coming?
« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2009, 07:33:32 AM »
Ya know, if this 1600cc thing happens it may get a few more butts in seats here in the US, but I'll be bummed, unless they come out with a new 1000cc small block too.

I was thinking about it the other day, but they just don't have that 10k, classic looking, 1000-1200cc bike right now (unless they bring the Bellagio over here).

The V7 is GORGEOUS but a little low on power and expensive compared to even a Harley 883. Hell, the V7 is currently selling for what a 1200R sold for just a year or two ago. There's too big a performance and amenities gap there.

And though I like the Calvin a LOT, I'm not looking for a $15k bike.

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« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2009, 07:38:08 AM »
Interesting rumor, but the question I would ask is why more than 1200?  If you go beefier in the motor, you'll need beefier frame, then you'll start loading it up with all kinds of HD-like stuff and the bike will gain 200lbs.

A 1200 V (twin valve, not four!), 6 speed, monoshock rear with CARC.  Why not try to take OFF 50lbs and get it around 500lbs with 100 ponies?  Keep the cruiser look but lose the fat.  Make it a big cruiser that will out-handle and out run a sporty (pretty much close to that already, but might as well spike the ball in the endzone?).  

I don't think we need many more cubes.  The thing is already the best "classic" cruiser out there.  I'd hate to see Guzzi get all "Goldwing" on us.

BTW, if you dress up a Harley with the CalVin suspension (which is pretty much available out of the factory catalog), you get a 23K bike that still weighs 250lbs more, has less cornering clearance and still makes you look like you're a "Wild Hogs" cast member.  I love the feeling on the CalVin.  I'm David Soul in Magnum Force, baby....

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« Reply #29 on: May 27, 2009, 08:33:43 AM »
From what I understand, people did a lot of hallucinogenic drugs in the 60's. There were all kinds of weird exhibition drag cars. "hemi under glass" and the "hairy hurst oldsmobile" are a couple of the more famous ones. The olds had a pair of 425 cu inch motors, one of which was in the trunk. a pair of fwd toronado transaxles put the power down. Four wheel drive burnouts in 1966!!!

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