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We have relatives near Lynchburg Virginia and often thought about possibly relocating there. I was wondering if anyone from this forum lives near there and can tell me what it’s like in that area of Virginia?
“Just wondering but not lost.”
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I passed through there last spring. Went downtown to a nice brew pub for an IPA. Very pleasant old town area. Seemed like a nice town from me. Always wondered how it got named though.
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WSGG,
There are a dozen or so Guzzi riders (that I know of) in the Lynchburg area. What kind of info are you looking for? If facts & figures I'd prefer you sent me a list of questions via email "ronkom(at)vaguzzi(dot)com" so I have time to make sure of my answers. In general, I grew up 30 miles East of Pittsburgh, & have 5 siblings living there...but I'm here & have no desire to live there again. In Western Pa. we had "3 months of high summer & 9 months of crap" (IMPO). Even though we're not that much further South the mountains modulate the weather such that we have 3 months of winter & 9 months of pretty decent weather here. Most of the regular attendees at my monthly Guzzi lunches ride year round. Send me an email, I'll answer all I can. We can also jaw on the phone (434)993-3841 It's a land-line (yea I'm THAT old!). We get so many trash-spam calls that we only answer if we recognize who's calling, so, if no answer please leave a message.
ride safe,
Ron
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Our Corp HQ is there I have spent several months there. The people are very nice, it is a typical small city with a slower pace of life. All the big box stores are there, pretty much everything you need. It is the home of Liberty University, so the majority of the locals are very religious and very conservative. There is very imited employment opertunitys and it does get cold during the winter months and HOT during the summer. Several people I know moved there from western NY and they like it. I am not religious or conservative and I liked it also. Down sides to VA. In general are personal property tax on cars,boats,bikes trailers, etc. Sales tax on everything including bulk food.
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I live in Lynchburg, VA. Great place. Escaped from the outskirts of Rochester NY back in 1987. Love it here, never even thought about moving back for a second.
Great weather, great scenery, great people.
Shoot me your phone number via PM and I'll give you a call.
Don't believe RonKom about 3 months of winter down here. Although I will grant him that winter is relative. Rarely do we even get two weeks of Rochester NY winter per year.
Regarding taxes, not sure about PA, but everyone I know in Upstate NY would love it if their property taxes were equal to twice or 3 times my property and personal property taxes combined.
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Good info. I will make those phone calls. Thanks
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Regarding taxes, IIRC I pay about $1300 a year on a house accessed at about $140,000. yep, I'm poor white trash.
2016 KTM Duke 690 is accessed at $2,446. $21 per year for license fee, $54 per year for personal property tax.
2000 Jeep Cherokee, $65.30 per tax for personal property tax + license. 2003 GMC 2500, $176.06 per year.
Back in the late 80's, a former co-worker moved here from Boston. He could not believe how inexpensive houses were compared to Boston.
While looking at a house in Bedford County, he asked the real estate agent about taxes. The agent said "$300."
My buddy said "$300 per month, that's not bad!"
Shocked real estate agent: "Uh, er, that's $300 per year!"
My buddy just smiled.
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I went to college about 70 miles north of there in Charlottesville. Wonderful people, gorgeous mountains and killer riding roads. If it had an ocean I’d still be there. I think it’s gotten a lot busier since the 80’s though. Definitely worth a long look.
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Great little city, and wonderful area, great roads. I bought my retirement home just North in Rockbridge baths just East of Goshen Pass on US 39. That's where I will be when I grow old. I mean up.....
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Interesting, being from Upstate NY and its crappy NOV-MAR, and crappy humidity in July/Aug. It seems it is getting too hot/humid here in summer and too cold in the winter. We had double normal precipitation in July and HOT/HUMID. Normally 20 years ago the rainy summers would be cool which is Okay. Everyone was glad to see this summer behind.
I wonder just how hot is “hot” according to the vf84. Someone should make a US map of combined parameters days per year over 90° And over 65° dewpoint. Trouble is where do you go where it isn't worse.
Im a little fussy I guess.
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Interesting, being from Upstate NY and its crappy NOV-MAR, and crappy humidity in July/Aug. It seems it is getting too hot/humid here in summer and too cold in the winter. We had double normal precipitation in July and HOT/HUMID. Normally 20 years ago the rainy summers would be cool which is Okay. Everyone was glad to see this summer behind.
I wonder just how hot is “hot” according to the vf84. Someone should make a US map of combined parameters days per year over 90° And over 65° dewpoint. Trouble is where do you go where it isn't worse.
Im a little fussy I guess.
Fussy is good. I'm from Monroe County, my wife's relatives are still in Montgomery County and Fulton County. Lynchburg humidity is about the same as Montgomery County and much lower than Monroe County.
First summer I was down here the locals asked what I liked about the area. One of my answers was "there are no mosquitoes around here!" They were stunned by that answer. They thought they knew about mosquitoes here.
Kinda like they thought they actually get snow here.....
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Fussy is good. I'm from Monroe County, my wife's relatives are still in Montgomery County and Fulton County. Lynchburg humidity is about the same as Montgomery County and much lower than Monroe County.
First summer I was down here the locals asked what I liked about the area. One of my answers was "there are no mosquitoes around here!" They were stunned by that answer. They thought they knew about mosquitoes here.
Kinda like they thought they actually get snow here.....
Yep. Forest, VA is the area I was considering.
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Yep. Forest, VA is the area I was considering.
Technically, I live in the city of Lynchburg, about 4 houses from the line between the City of Lynchburg and Bedford County, but I have a Forest VA mailing address.
Bedford County property taxes are lower than Lynchburg, but the water prices are higher. Last time I compared, one pretty much cancels out the savings of the other.
I suspect you will like it here, assuming you like your relatives.......
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What do woods riders do there? Are there any?
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What do woods riders do there? Are there any?
Plenty of woods. Woods riders? You should probably do an internet search.
I seem to remember a group called Virginia Trail Riders, or Blue Ridge Trail Riders?
There is the Virginia Championship Hare Scrambles Series, and a couple other competition enduro organizations.
There is a 100 acre? off road park about 30 miles south of here, I don't recall the name.
Hatfield McCoy trail system is a few hour away in WV, I think.
Good instance where the internet is your friend.
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I went to college about 70 miles north of there in Charlottesville. Wonderful people, gorgeous mountains and killer riding roads. If it had an ocean I’d still be there. I think it’s gotten a lot busier since the 80’s though. Definitely worth a long look.
Charlottesville is great, have a good friend who lives there in one of the last large acreage farms that have been in her family for many years. Home prices are substantially higher than the Lynchburg area. I'd live there if I could afford it or Richmond or Roanoke.
My brother-in-law lives on a family farm outside of Appomatix which is nice but it's not for us, and my wife loves her brother but......
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I suggest that you look up, "Lynchburg, VA City Data" and you'll get every statistic you could want to supplement personal observations from WGC members.
Ralph
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Great little city, and wonderful area, great roads. I bought my retirement home just North in Rockbridge baths just East of Goshen Pass on US 39. that's where I will be when I grow old. I mean up.....
Hell, when you retire, we'll almost be neighbors!!! Hopefully we can get together to ride, BS, and solve the world's problems!!
There are infinite good roads in that area. We did a 350 mile loop years ago, which I think included 39, 220, 219, and 250.
The phenomena you describe is very similar to NY state. IMO, the biggest difference in ideology is between people who live in high population density areas and people who live in low population density areas. Different worlds, different problems, different perspectives, different reactions to similar stimuli. A lot of times, a move of 50 miles is as good as a move to another state, IMO.
Much more a function of philosophy than the dreaded p-word from my perspective. The difference between people who look other people in the eye and say hello to strangers vs people who do neither. When my niece visited here after living in NYC for a few years she was shocked that I said hello to strangers and that strangers did the same to me. I said "Knock off the NYC sophisticate act! You grew up in a small town!"
Regardless of how Richmond or Albany go, life in most of the counties in either state won't change much.
IIRC, the county in which you plan to retire has mentioned seceding from VA to become part of WV not too long ago. They might solve the problem before you even live there.
Stay away from them Lexington horse women though, they're high maintenance! They cost a lot more than motorcycles!!
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I have to say this thread gives me pause. I to live in upstate NY (Walworth, east of Rochester). I have hills, acreage, a barn and a great house. Unfortunately my current taxes on house etc, is over $9K/year. Having just retired and increasingly sick of the aforementioned weather I have been thinking of relocating after a bit.
I know the MidAtlantic AHRMA race series for offroad and motocross is active around there. More time to ride wouldb e a huge benefit. Thanks for starting the thread Willow Street :thumb:
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The political comment in this thread is still standing.
Why?
BC, I read all the post. The couple comments that touched on political views of the area were revenant to the information requested.
The only reason it will be necessary to remove it at this time is if you wish to make an argument over it.
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I have to say this thread gives me pause. I to live in upstate NY (Walworth, east of Rochester). I have hills, acreage, a barn and a great house. Unfortunately my current taxes on house etc, is over $9K/year. Having just retired and increasingly sick of the aforementioned weather I have been thinking of relocating after a bit.
I know the MidAtlantic AHRMA race series for offroad and motocross is active around there. More time to ride wouldb e a huge benefit. Thanks for starting the thread Willow Street :thumb:
Heating bills too. A house that needs 9k in taxes also needs $2-3k in heating bills.
Still, if people keep moving away maybe the lower population will be worth the extra cost. The riding in some of the areas skirting the Catskills where it breaks into farmland are second to none. Same throughout New England where their enduro clubs also keep woods riding alive in hostile blue states. Just the crappy weather deters using it.
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I have to say this thread gives me pause. I to live in upstate NY (Walworth, east of Rochester). I have hills, acreage, a barn and a great house. Unfortunately my current taxes on house etc, is over $9K/year. Having just retired and increasingly sick of the aforementioned weather I have been thinking of relocating after a bit.
I know the MidAtlantic AHRMA race series for offroad and motocross is active around there. More time to ride wouldb e a huge benefit. Thanks for starting the thread Willow Street :thumb:
Petrus,
I'm from Hilton NY (west of Rochester). Back then no one locked the doors to their houses, and if you went into the store, you usually left your keys in the ignition. If you had a bad battery, hey, just leave the car running. You will love it here. After one winter down here, you'll be kicking yourself for not moving down years ago.
On Saturday, we were headed up to some land we own in Amherst County to let our dogs run. One of our dogs had a bit of rawhide stuck in his throat and was acting a bit weird. Nothing alarming but my wife was concerned. We pulled over to give the dog some water and within a couple minutes two people slowed down enough to roll down their windows and ask if we needed help.
After we were back on our way my wife remarked "That wouldn't happen back in NY!"
My niece was stunned that the local Barnes & Noble has books in the vestibule before you get into the store. She said "You wouldn't see this in NYC! People would steal the books!"
My reply was "That's one of the reasons I don't live in NYC!"
Shoot me a PM and I'll send you my phone number if you want to talk.
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BC, I read all the post. The couple comments that touched on political views of the area were revenant to the information requested.
The only reason it will be necessary to remove it at this time is if you wish to make an argument over it.
Well said Dan. Some people desire to censor the opinions of others more than they desire to learn why another person may have a different perspective.
To each their own!
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Heating bills too. A house that needs 9k in taxes also needs $2-3k in heating bills.
Still, if people keep moving away maybe the lower population will be worth the extra cost. The riding in some of the areas skirting the Catskills where it breaks into farmland are second to none. Same throughout New England where their enduro clubs also keep woods riding alive in hostile blue states. Just the crappy whether deters using it.
You save a ton of money on cold weather clothing, boots, etc. also. About 4-5 months of the year is tee shirt and shorts weather. And mosquito repellent!!!
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The political comment in this thread is still standing.
Why?
BC, I read all the post. The couple comments that touched on political views of the area were revenant to the information requested.
The only reason it will be necessary to remove it at this time is if you wish to make an argument over it.
blackcat, you wanna be more specific with your complaint? feel free to PM one, or both of us.
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I wonder just how hot is “hot” according to the vf84. Someone should make a US map of combined parameters days per year over 90° And over 65° dewpoint. Trouble is where do you go where it isn't worse.
The West is the best, baby! New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, Arizona, Utah, Idaho, Nevada all have places to fit that bill.
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Politics, unless this implies something else.
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Politics, unless this implies something else.
You are correct. Upon further review, a little cleanup has been performed.
We all know of Virginia's politics and have no need to discuss it here.
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Why I live in the Finger Lakes area of NY is a long story but in short it was escape from NJ... :laugh:
I live in the next town over from Petric Rocks..This area is all farms..Me and Pete have about the same acreage but his house is custom built...His taxes are twice what mine are..
To make a comparison to Sir Ed, We have 12 acres, an old remodeled rather bland house with a 160k tax assessment. Yearly property taxes are about 4500 bucks...We heat primarily with wood so heating comparisons are not valid. Our electric is budgeted for $68 a month and we use about $500 yearly for propane for hot water and a rarely used furnace...
And the road deicing chemicals destroy vehicles.....
We always planned on moving South..It will never happen now to personal issues...If you want to move do it before it's too late
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..If you want to move do it before it's too late
True. Back in the day, Grandmother told me that the older you get the faster time goes. At the time, I thought, "just another of her BS stories.." :rolleyes: but she was right. Time starts flying by..
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Sir Ed, thought you said the mosquitos of little concern?
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Rocker I love the Southwest, lived in NM and Mom is in Cottonwood AZ. But...it gets pretty hot there (Flagstaff, NM mtns excepted) and the water problems will only get worse as things dry up and more people move to Phoenix. On the other hand I 'll be out for a riding vacation as soon as I can. Now that I retired and have my toyhauler I plan to to a bit of wandering street and dirt. :thumb:
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Well said Dan. Some people desire to censor the opinions of others more than they desire to learn why another person may have a different perspective.
To each their own!
I have no desire to censor anyone. The rules are posted regarding political comments and I didn't make up those rules.
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I have no desire to censor anyone. The rules are posted regarding political comments and I didn't make up those rules.
Let’s drop it, I believe the moderators have said all that needs to be said. The end👍
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Sir Ed, thought you said the mosquitos of little concern?
Hmm, I have been to a lot of states and it's my opinion any place with thick green trees/brush and creeks has mosquitos unless there's a good breeze... :wink: :grin:
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Sir Ed, thought you said the mosquitos of little concern?
Yes. I suspect the presence of Lake Ontario adds enough humidity to keep the little buggers well hydrated, healthy, and hungry!
At least compared to around here.
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I believe mosquitos tend to breed in small puddles,pools of water or in ponds . we are 20 miles south o lake Ontario . Normally mosquitos are not a problem until after rain...Then they are in swarms for a few days...
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There's a vibe living in the "Commonwealth". It's a different vibe for folks that were born in the Commonwealth and those that weren't. I lived in the Hampton Roads for 18 months. My oldest son born there. I offer no value judgment or comparison between different states.
I have some agreement with Rocker about being in west, at least west of the Big River or close enough to cross it within a day.
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'skeeters can be a nuisance here, but not nearly as bad as in other areas of the country. And, of course it depends on how "tasty" you are. I get bitten & it's a pita sometimes, but poor Alice.....she steps out the door & the buzzingbas***** ring the dinner bell! She keeps a jug of ammonia handy to dab the bites as soon as she comes in the house. (We used ammonia for jellyfish stings we got waterskiing in the bays around Va Beach back in the day). Personally, I find the swarms of gnats (gnatzies) that are around briefly in the summer more of an irritant that the 'skeeters.
Ron
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I believe mosquitos tend to breed in small puddles,pools of water or in ponds . we are 20 miles south o lake Ontario . Normally mosquitos are not a problem until after rain...Then they are in swarms for a few days...
We are are six miles south of the lake and you are about seven. I believe our mosquitos have more to do with the swamps all around us and all the rain we have had.
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How could VIR not mentioned. Due south 81 miles. Plenty of track days and bike racing. Just on the border of NC.
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We are are six miles south of the lake and you are about seven. I believe our mosquitos have more to do with the swamps all around us and all the rain we have had.
There seems to be a commonality between mosquitoes and water. It's almost like they thrive more in wet, humid areas. I suspect they only need about a teaspoon of water to breed in. Now that I think more about it, a heavy dew in the morning even in summer, is a lot more common back home than here. That alone may account for the difference in my perception of mosquito population.
Never bothered to look up real weather data, but according to my uncalibrated sweat-o-meter, Hilton NY was a hell of a lot more humid than the Lynchburg, VA area. According to the same instrumentation on my wife, Rochester was much more humid than Montogomery County NY.
Lake Ontario, lots of swampy land, prevailing wind out of the north, could also be be a factor only a few miles south of the lake.
The little pests definitely have a preference for female blood according to all the couples I know.
Maybe if women farted more?
Those who are full of piss and vinegar, or have brown eyes.... :grin: may have different experiences!!! :wink:
Simple solution is to maintain close physical proximity to a running two stroke.
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There seems to be a commonality between mosquitoes and water. It's almost like they thrive more in wet, humid areas. I suspect they only need about a teaspoon of water to breed in.
Never bothered to look up real weather data, but according to my uncalibrated sweat-o-meter, Hilton NY was a hell of a lot more humid than the Lynchburg, VA area. According to the same instrumentation on my wife, Rochester was much more humid than Montogomery County NY.
Giant lake, with lots of swampy land, could be be a factor only a few miles south of the lake.
The little pests definitely have a preference for female blood according to all the couples I know.
Maybe if women farted more?
Mosquitoes lay their eggs in still/slow-moving water, and the larvae are water predators.
Only the females suck blood, but both sexes are pollinators.
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Mosquitoes lay their eggs in still/slow-moving water, and the larvae are water predators.
Only the females suck blood, but both sexes are pollinators.
That's a good point. The flatter the land, the more stable is the rain water that falls out of the sky. Hilton is a lot flatter than Lynchburg.
I also recall a lot more geese and ducks up there than down here.
I'm convincing myself that water is required for mosquitoes, geese, and ducks.
With geese, it's the males that are more likely to bite! :wink:
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Hmm, I have been to a lot of states and it's my opinion any place with thick green trees/brush and creeks has mosquitos unless there's a good breeze... :wink: :grin:
Not necessarily so... I moved from CA to TX 3 years ago and reside now in rural Burnet County, TX. about 70 miles NW of Austin. We have frontage on Lake Buchanan ("Buck-annon") and lots of trees. We do have Texas cedar allergy but not a mosquito in 3 years, windy or calm. Winters can be chilly, mostly above 32F, but last Winter we dropped to 7F and roads were closed for a few days, due to ice. Summers are in the upper 90s with humidity often in the 80% or higher range. I "gear up" all year, no matter the heat, just accommodating the heat by rolling the Breva 750 out early and pulling back into the garage by 11a. White tail deer are very common and the wise rider takes appropriate precautions.
I've ridden in VA and WV and central NY and I have to say I think they have better biking roads, but Texas is quite acceptable. No state income tax and property taxes run about $2.60 per $100 of assessed valuation. We get good schools and infrastructure for our taxes. Not having a state income tax and having (this morning) 2.59/gal EXXON gas makes the reasonable property taxes more achievable.
Ralph
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Ralph, "cedar fever" really sucks.
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one of the most effective allergy preventions/treatments I have found. My wife and I have been taking it since 2007.
http://www.orost.org/Alternatives/0907Walt-noColdsFlu.pdf
Nasal irrigation is also a great treatment.
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If considering Lynchburg, I would also recommend looking at Harrisonburg VA, a little further north in the Shenandoah Valley, or perhaps nearby Staunton. Harrisonburg benefits from a college town vibe (James Madison Univ), and has a large nearby population of Old Order Mennonite famers (horse and buggy) which would feel familiar to you coming from Lancaster. We live just outside Harrisonburg and LOVE it here. The western part of Virginia, dissected by mountains, has a lot of subtle fine-scale cultural variation from place to place: Lynchburg has a very different feel from Lexington, and yet again from Harrisonburg. Twenty minutes away from me, the Page valley (Luray VA) is a very different place too, culturally and in ethnic heritage. My side of Massanutten Mountain, a low-lying ridge, was first settled two hundred years ago by German immigrants from Pennsylvania; the Page Valley side was settled by people with ancestry in the British Isles moving inland from the Virginia Piedmont. To this day, cultural differences persist. Similar fine-scale variation can be discerned all over this part of the state.
Having travelled all over the USA and lived in quite a few different areas, this particular region of the Shenandoah Valley, between Staunton and Harrisonburg, is perhaps the only place east of the Mississippi River I would have considered settling down in. It's "JUST RIGHT." Bonus points for the mild climate and all the great narrow, winding motorcycle roads.
Just please don't tell too many people the secret!
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Umm, the MSM is suspect but a Hollywood movie is the truth. Got it.
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Thanks for clarifying. I misunderstood the direction of your comment.
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I think it may be a good time for those involved in this discussion to revisit the Forum Rules.
Thanks
Dan
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Guy asks about how it is to live in a certain geographical area.
Others chime in with good advice.
Others chime in and make this political or about a needle.
Several come back to this post over and over again, seemingly just to find something that offends them and gives them something to further argue or complain about.
Moderators politely ask to keep it on topic.
Topic keeps going off the rails, actually even worse.
I feel bad for the person asking to begin with.
So, the next person to inject politics, needles, etc, I will promptly escort out the door and you're not coming back in, ever.
Rule #2: Keep the content motorcycle related. There is no room for politics, guns, religion, spam, click-bait, controversial healthcare topics, etc.
How's that for clarity? We're better than this.
Luap
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So, the next person to inject politics, needles, etc, I will promptly escort out the door and you're not coming back in, ever.
Luap
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Having missed the divisive crap thank you Luap/moderators for keeping the conversation on the rails!
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Thanks, Luap.. :thumb:
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Well as I am the 'presumed' offender as I seem to recall mentioning something about my future retirement plans in my adopted home of VA where I own 3 homes, I want to apologize to the mods for violating the rules, albeit not directly or intentional, and thus creating a headache. I'm also willing to pass out tissues to the offended if needed to make things better.
To the OP, I think you've got some great info on the area, VA is a beautiful state end to end, and that area is sublime, you'll love it. America at its best. Great people, great food, great history, great roads. Each of the small cities in the region have their own character and a nice variety of culture, industry, culture and natural wonders. Tons of stuff for the kiddos or grand kiddos too.
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Well as I am the 'presumed' offender as I seem to recall mentioning something about my future retirement plans in my adopted home of VA where I own 3 homes, I want to apologize to the mods for violating the rules, albeit not directly or intentional, and thus creating a headache. I'm also willing to pass out tissues to the offended if needed to make things better.
To the OP, I think you've got some great info on the area, VA is a beautiful state end to end, and that area is sublime, you'll love it. America at its best. Great people, great food, great history, great roads. Each of the small cities in the region have their own character and a nice variety of culture, industry, culture and natural wonders. Tons of stuff for the kiddos or grand kiddos too.
Yep!
For me it is a personal preference, small town America, with low population density, where people actually look each other in the eye, hold the door for strangers who are still 8 steps away, and use first names.... wins every time. Others have noted that where people actually own things, as opposed to renting, a much greater sense of ownership, pride, belonging, and community exists.
A buddy was telling me about a study he read that noted during human interactions, humans get most of their information from subtle body language cues, rather than from the spoken word. A raised eyebrow, a twitch, a subtle smirk, blushing, etc. The study noted that we can only process so many of these "hints" per minute. IMO, that explains the phenomena of people tuning each other out in a crowded area, a subway, an airport, etc. We simply can't process visual information from more than a dozen of so people a minute. The others cease to be individuals and become herd animals.
I also think that explains why the internet can be such a contentious place. None of the body language cues we have been relying upon for eons are available. Emojis are a poor substitute. Given the lack of information, our imaginations go into hyper drive. My estimate is that the internet is about 10% information, and about 90% imagination.
I saw a great phrase the other day in some dog training information that reminded me of the internet. "The value of the treat is determined by the dog, not by the human."
All that said, I am also cupable of rattling the cages of others here at WG, and for that I apologize.
To date, I have never seen an offensive post here at WG, so the moderators and Luap are close to superhuman IMO.