Author Topic: Any new Stornello owners out there? (Read 7683 times)

NHMike · « **Reply #30 on:** August 07, 2017, 05:31:39 AM »

Lots of positive feed back on the Stornello! Can't wait to demo one this week. Will report back with riding impressions vs my 12V7c.

Mike.

DaSwami · « **Reply #31 on:** August 10, 2017, 08:18:03 AM »

Quote from: beetle on August 05, 2017, 08:52:52 PM

I only have anecdotal evidence, but the Stornello seems to leave the factory with the ~~495~~ 795 map, and the Stone, et al, have the ~~496~~ 796. Unless the Stornello's have been sitting boxed for a long time? The ~~496~~ 796 is a much better map.
* fixed typo's.

As an aside, my V7II Special ran like a champ until first service, now it idles poorly when cold and wants to stall without a lengthy warmup

the dealer has admitted they do not have the latest map because they have not paid the annual fee to Piaggio for the software update. I am going to ask the GM when that will be. I don't understand why they would overwrite the map on a perfectly running bike! My backup plan is to seek out a dealer that can upload the best software, hopefully Red Ember in Daytona.

EDIT: The 796 map is dated 10-15-15, is there any factory map that is best?

WitchCityGuzzi · « **Reply #32 on:** August 10, 2017, 10:03:03 AM »

My wife bought one last year for when she wants to ride gravel roads rather than using her Griso. We fight over who gets to ride it. It's a great bike and sounds wonderful.

beetle · « **Reply #33 on:** August 10, 2017, 04:34:30 PM »

Quote from: DaSwami on August 10, 2017, 08:18:03 AM

As an aside, my V7II Special ran like a champ until first service, now it idles poorly when cold and wants to stall without a lengthy warmup the dealer has admitted they do not have the latest map because they have not paid the annual fee to Piaggio for the software update. I am going to ask the GM when that will be. I don't understand why they would overwrite the map on a perfectly running bike! My backup plan is to seek out a dealer that can upload the best software, hopefully Red Ember in Daytona.

EDIT: The 796 map is dated 10-15-15, is there any factory map that is best?

AFAIK the 796 is the latest V7II map. It's better 795. There's also the 740. That's all the V7II maps right there.

Did they admit to overwriting the map? Was the mechanic a shaved ape? Brand new apprentice on his first ever job? It beggars belief on what some of these Guzzi dealers do.

Wildguzzi.com · « **Reply #33 on:** August 10, 2017, 04:34:30 PM »

DaSwami · « **Reply #34 on:** August 10, 2017, 09:17:37 PM »

Quote from: beetle on August 10, 2017, 04:34:30 PM

AFAIK the 796 is the latest V7II map. It's better 795. There's also the 740. That's all the V7II maps right there.

Did they admit to overwriting the map? Was the mechanic a shaved ape? Brand new apprentice on his first ever job? It beggars belief on what some of these Guzzi dealers do.

You know, you got me thinking. They treated this bike like a V7, not a V7II. 1000cc of 85w-90 transmission oil, instead of 500cc of 75W-90...is it possible they downloaded a V7 fuel map?? All I know is it needed NO extensive warmup before taking off when it was brand new right up to the first service, no stumbling, cold bloodedness, nada. After getting it back from the dealer, it doesn't run worth a damm until it is hot. Not a coincidence. Valves were rechecked and are at 0.15 / 0.20

Contacted the GM today and he says to call him Tuesday they should have the software then.

Wonderful bikes, it seems their worst enemy is the dealer....

Kev m · « **Reply #35 on:** August 10, 2017, 11:55:26 PM »

I'm under the impression the dealer software reads the VIN so it knows what bike it's communicating with and suggests the proper map.

So I don't think it can add one from another model.

However if it's not been online got a long time it might add an older/outdated map over the latest/greatest.

beetle · « **Reply #36 on:** August 11, 2017, 01:05:13 AM »

While you can load a V7 map into a V7II, it won't run. It won't even start. We're talking single throttle body V7. As Kev says, PADS (shite software by Piaggio) won't load the wrong map. In fact, it won't let you update a map if it already has the latest version. Or let you overwrite a newer map with an older version. It also notifies you if there is a newer version available. I think the latter only occurs if the PADS software is up to date.

Something smells here.

DaSwami · « **Reply #37 on:** August 11, 2017, 09:52:37 AM »

Quote from: beetle on August 11, 2017, 01:05:13 AM

While you can load a V7 map into a V7II, it won't run. It won't even start. We're talking single throttle body V7. As Kev says, PADS (shite software by Piaggio) won't load the wrong map. In fact, it won't let you update a map if it already has the latest version. Or let you overwrite a newer map with an older version. It also notifies you if there is a newer version available. I think the latter only occurs if the PADS software is up to date.

Something smells here.

Well that's a relief....

I emailed the info on the 796 map to the GM of the dealership, told him this is what my bike needs. I guess I will have more light next week.

Still, the rough stumbly idle since taking delivery of the bike after service makes me wonder what the heck is going on. It wants to stall out until thoroughly warmed up now. Did not have this issue prior to the first service. Bought the bike at a different dealer, but they are 6 hours away. They met me half way to deliver the bike.

Apologies to the OP on the thread divergence.

beetle · « **Reply #38 on:** August 11, 2017, 07:08:41 PM »

I'd be wanting to know exactly what they did. It is supposed to run the same or better after a service.

NHMike · « **Reply #39 on:** August 18, 2017, 05:56:43 PM »

Well I never did demo a Stornello but I did end up finding a 2013 v7 stone with 1500 miles. Very nice
Bike that is extremely clean. It has mistral exhaust and a dart screen on it, I just couldn't pass on this one.

Cheers.

Kev m · « **Reply #40 on:** August 18, 2017, 08:20:27 PM »

Quote from: NHMike on August 18, 2017, 05:56:43 PM

Well I never did demo a Stornello but I did end up finding a 2013 v7 stone with 1500 miles. Very nice
Bike that is extremely clean. It has mistral exhaust and a dart screen on it, I just couldn't pass on this one.

Cheers.

Sweet! I've had mine 13 Stone since new (Dec 2012)!

Bulldog9 · « **Reply #41 on:** July 22, 2018, 07:20:02 AM »

Just bought #742 from the dealer in Accident Maryland. Bargain Basement Burner Prices... NO JOKE, $6899 + $100 doc fee...... One other in the cue when I went to pick mine up. I rode Bill Hagan's a few weeks ago and decided I wanted one, then found out about this deal and decided to risk the wrath of SWMBO.... Survived so far ;-)

Dealer said the #96 map was part of their set up. Started fine on ride at dealer, gonna put on insurance today and swap a plate and have some fun. Will report back.....

**They have 6-7 left at this price (out of 40) GREAT buying experience.

***Edit $100 doc fee... Big fat finges

kingoffleece · « **Reply #42 on:** July 22, 2018, 07:51:00 AM »

You gotta be kidding me. 8K for a NEW Stornello? And it's even a question to buy one? Geez, what a screaming deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kev m · « **Reply #43 on:** July 22, 2018, 07:56:37 AM »

Quote from: kingoffleece on July 22, 2018, 07:51:00 AM

You gotta be kidding me. 8K for a NEW Stornello? And it's even a question to buy one? Geez, what a screaming deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think he mistyped on the doc fee from what I've heard.

Kinda makes me wonder what the Stornello would look like with painted white fenders and the exhaust, racks, centerstand, wheels, etc. off my Stone.

And if anyone would be interested in a Stone with the exhaust and wheels from a Stornello.

Probably folly, but fun to think about.

timonbik · « **Reply #44 on:** July 22, 2018, 08:21:38 AM »

Lot of dealers do this. Slash the price of the bike to near cost then add the profit back in via a document or admin fee. Not saying it wasn't a good price but just a game dealers play.

Tim

Kev m · « **Reply #45 on:** July 22, 2018, 08:31:15 AM »

Quote from: timonbik on July 22, 2018, 08:21:38 AM

Lot of dealers do this. Slash the price of the bike to near cost then add the profit back in via a document or admin fee. Not saying it wasn't a good price but just a game dealers play.

Tim

Two others here have reported buying Stornellos from this dealer and I believe they both reported paying $100 doc fee.

Green1000S · « **Reply #46 on:** July 22, 2018, 09:29:20 AM »

Quote from: Kev m on July 22, 2018, 08:31:15 AM

Two others here have reported buying Stornellos from this dealer and I believe they both reported paying $100 doc fee.

Correct. $6995 in December 2017 and $100 for document fee.

I have now 6000 miles on it, all trouble free. Its cold blooded, so I let it idle a minute or two and after that no issues, pulls cleanly at all RPM's.
Wonderful little critter. Very different than my Stelvio, which is great long distance hauler (and you can carry a ton of stuff on it), but the Stornello is light, relatively fast and so much more easier to ride on gravel.
My brother had no trouble staying 12-14 hours on Stornello seat when we did coast to coast ride a month ago. 4811 miles in two weeks, says a lot about Stornello's capabilities.

Here in Death Valley.

Definitely a keeper!

blu guzz · « **Reply #47 on:** July 22, 2018, 11:50:21 AM »

Lauri: That has got to be one of the coolest pics I have ever seen from the motorcycling hobby. It just gets down to the essence of what it's all about. It makes me want to get one and go there.

kingoffleece · « **Reply #48 on:** July 22, 2018, 12:09:48 PM »

However the dealer structures the deal matters not. It's out the door price. Even if it was 1K that's still under 8K for the bike. How much more could a buyer realistically expect?

Not to start a "stealer" ( I HATE that word) but having several very close friends in the M/C business and several more dealers who are also KoF dealers these guys arn't making squat on new bike sales. I'd wager any of you who own your own business would be even marginally satisfied with the ROI on new bike sales. But that's another discussion all together.

Bulldog9 · « **Reply #49 on:** July 22, 2018, 04:24:14 PM »

Fixed post, doc fee was $100...... Easy purchase great people no hassles. Just a dummy with fat fingers.

kingoffleece · « **Reply #50 on:** July 22, 2018, 08:13:15 PM »

Even Better!

flat out · « **Reply #51 on:** August 03, 2018, 08:35:29 AM »

Just turned over 1500kms(937miles). The Stornello #136 is awesome!
Nice mellow ride, looks cool too. I'd recommend one any day.
t.

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