Ok then... Who'll pull the trigger on a V85 ..?

[Huzo]

Well that seems entirely reasonable

[rdbandkab]

Was watching a bit of Italian Youtube on the V85.  I may have missed someone mentioning this, but the dash shows directional information in the form of lane choice and arrows indicating turn, roundabouts..... Neat. 
I like the cruise control location also.   In comparison with my Capo (which requires a 3rd hand from your passenger on the right-hand controls), the V85 has a nice easy to reach switch to depress on the left-hand control module.   Looks like a couple USB ports under a waterproof cover to the left-hand side of the dash.

[Green1000S]

So far undecided, I have a Stelvio and Stornello. One is a pack mule and mile-eater, they other one is light weight fun little critter.

I think I need to test ride the V85, being unsure where it would fit in-between the Stelvio NTX and Stornello. Maybe there is a slot there?
Either way, I have zero interest of selling the Stelvio or Stornello, definitely keepers.

Maybe its as simple as I cannot live without the V85???

[Lcarlson]

One of the reasons I chose the V7 was because of no longer wanting to be involved with constantly lubing and adjusting and aligning the chain on my bikes.  As well as cleaning the debris off the rear wheel.  Also tired of the radiator being the predominate item you see when looking at many bikes.

 I usually let the dealer do the first service during the warranty period to establish a report with them and the simplicity and accessibility of the V7 made the 1st service one of the lowest prices I have ever paid even though they also check the valve clearances.

I felt the same way about chain drive bikes, but — against my sworn oath — recently bought another one anyway.  And, there is a solution: the Scottoiler automatic chain lubrication system. I have had one on my bike for about 700 miles now, and it is almost miraculous. The chain remains lightly lubricated at all times, and it is self-cleaning, really. The residual black goop that remained from my last manual application of chain wax is almost gone, just from riding the bike. The oil that the system uses is, I understand, basically automatic transmission fluid with some additives, which is not tacky like chain lubes/waxes, and does not retain dirt. I have no financial interest in this product — just a highly satisfied customer.

PS:BMW has enough faith in this system that they have entered into an arrangement with Scott to sell the oilers as BMW branded equipment.

[kermit.johansson]

OK Huzo,
I'm in for the V85.  Have a deposit with one dealer, talking with another to get on the list when prices are announced, and on other through a Costco buying plan.  Two dealers are over 190 miles away and one is about 150.  Price and speed of delivery for whatever options I choose will be the determining factor.  Sold a 03 BMW F 650 GS for prepare a space.

I have been watching the development of the V85 for a year.  GUZZI is building the BMW I have always wanted.

Buying now to avoid the rush.

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[Huzo]

OK Huzo,
I'm in for the V85.  Have a deposit with one dealer, talking with another to get on the list when prices are announced, and on other through a Costco buying plan.  Two dealers are over 190 miles away and one is about 150.  Price and speed of delivery for whatever options I choose will be the determining factor.  Sold a 03 BMW F 650 GS for prepare a space.

I have been watching the development of the V85 for a year.  GUZZI is building the BMW I have always wanted.

Buying now to avoid the rush.

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Hi Kermit welcome..!
There's some good "in principle" interest.

[Vagrant]

I have every intention in getting one as long as there's at least 5gallons of gas. Need to retire the old 2001 EV or God forbid sell it.or trade the V7 2015 for it. Four is enough!

[tazio]

I have every intention in getting one as long as there's at least 5gallons of gas. Need to retire the old 2001 EV or God forbid sell it.or trade the V7 2015 for it. Four is enough!

Steve, good riding with you last weekend.
I ordered the remote tire pressure/temp set-up like on your guzzi.
Will install on the Griso.
What, with a million or so O-Rings. this addition makes sense..

[boatdetective]

I think it might depend on which glaring mechanical failure the company chose to design into the bike. 

[JohninVT]

I think it might depend on which glaring mechanical failure the company chose to design into the bike.

LOL.  If I had to guess at potential weaknesses...I'd look at the rear subframe and swingarm connection.  The subframe tubing looks smallish for loaded panniers and fat American chicks/guys.  Some idiots will undoubtedly brutalize these offroad and there may be some issues with the swingarm connection.  I'm also still on the fence about the rear shock being offset and how it'll hold up to the swingarm flexing with the aforementioned fatties plus luggage. 

On the other hand, maybe it'll be great right out of the box and owners will love them.  The 1400's aren't everyone's cup of tea but their issues have been pretty few and far between in comparison to other model rollouts.  The V9's seem pretty bulletproof.  Could go either way.               

[bmp72]

I like how it says made in Mandello del Lario at the bottom of the dash.... but thats the omly thing i like about it. I really dont like these cell phone dash boards, to me it feels just cheap and nasty. Two proper dial indicators is what I want, i hope the road bike will have that or else an aftermarket sipplier makes one (yeah right, for 10 pieces a year...)

[boatdetective]

LOL.  If I had to guess at potential weaknesses...I'd look at the rear subframe and swingarm connection.  The subframe tubing looks smallish for loaded panniers and fat American chicks/guys.  Some idiots will undoubtedly brutalize these offroad and there may be some issues with the swingarm connection.  I'm also still on the fence about the rear shock being offset and how it'll hold up to the swingarm flexing with the aforementioned fatties plus luggage. 

On the other hand, maybe it'll be great right out of the box and owners will love them.  The 1400's aren't everyone's cup of tea but their issues have been pretty few and far between in comparison to other model rollouts.  The V9's seem pretty bulletproof.  Could go either way.               

John, not all riders have the same lithe, sinewy frame as you do.  I can picture you dismounting to examine your swing arm- pulling your helmet off and running a hand through your hair. A bead of sweat rolls down crease of your brow. You stretch your legs in the tight leather chaps- grateful for the cool breeze from the open back.....

[tazio]

Dang. Don't hold back. Lol

[JohninVT]

John, not all riders have the same lithe, sinewy frame as you do.  I can picture you dismounting to examine your swing arm- pulling your helmet off and running a hand through your hair. A bead of sweat rolls down crease of your brow. You stretch your legs in the tight leather chaps- grateful for the cool breeze from the open back.....

Aww, shucks.  It's not often someone waxes so poetic about me.  It's usually more like a filthy limerick.

Admit it, you're growing bored with your BMW and want back into the masochistic, Guzzi fold.  You're not really happy unless you have a bike strewn across the garage floor while you swear at it and wait for parts.     

[Huzo]

Yes..
All very enlightening, but the thrust of the post was.
Are you going to do it, or talk about it..?
And the idea of playing it smart and waiting 'till the serious guys make the "mistake" of buying the first one, is a good way to send Guzzi down the toilet.
The poor bastards are trying to offer something credible and the hyenas stand around on the edge while the "devotees" show some faith.
Weak as piss...

[boatdetective]

I re read the forum rules and there is nothing there banning subliminal gay porn.

I still love the R1200R. Great bike.  However, there's nothing to say that you shouldn't have a little wacky in the stable.

I've been off the forum for a while and have been frittering my life away on Facebook. What a dismal, thankless, soul crushing experience. I had forgotten how the simple rules of civility here tend to produce a generally helpful and positive group. I've said it before- the main reason for owning a Guzzi is the support and camaraderie of this forum. Having said that, Roper and the midget thing is still disturbing.
 

[grebmrof]

Having owned and loved Guzzis for 30 years, I had enough a couple of years ago...although I love the look of the V85, there are too few dealers around to support the bike, those that do won't be in business in a few years (except Harpers), the manufacturer seems to do its best to ignore the brand, wonderful bikes though they are.   So, I've moved on...I don't even think I'd buy a used V85 at a good price at anytime in the future.  Oh well, I'm not in the demographic that any motorcycle company wants for a customer anyway these days...

[JeffOlson]

I think it looks really great, except for the beak. Perhaps when they come out with a standard/street version...

[Smithy]

Main thing putting me off is that I swore I would never buy another product from Peter Stevens (the recently appointed Australian distributors). I do like this and I am in the mood for a new bike.

[Huzo]

Main thing putting me off is that I swore I would never buy another product from Peter Stevens (the recently appointed Australian distributors). I do like this and I am in the mood for a new bike.

Buy it from them, take a GSXR 1000 out for a test, put sand in the gearbox and get Roper to do your service work on the Guzzi and pay for it.
Everyone gets what they deserve...

[jrt]

https://www.cycleworld.com/moto-guzzi-v85-tt-is-official

I happened to run across this announcement in Cycle World.

[rocker59]

https://www.cycleworld.com/moto-guzzi-v85-tt-is-official

I happened to run across this announcement in Cycle World.

Trustworthy news source, with thoroughly researched and fact-checked information:

"The V85 unit is the most powerful Moto Guzzi V-twin"


HaHa 

[Chuck in Indiana]

"The V85 unit is the most powerful small block Moto Guzzi V-twin that they've seen today."

Fixed it for them.. 

[jas67]

Trustworthy news source, with thoroughly researched and fact-checked information:

"The V85 unit is the most powerful Moto Guzzi V-twin"


HaHa 

a record-specific power output for an air-cooled, Euro 4 two-valver.

latest-generation “polydyne” cam profile

WTF is that?

[rocker59]

a record-specific power output for an air-cooled, Euro 4 two-valver.

latest-generation �polydyne� cam profile

WTF is that?

Polydyne camshaft profiling was invented in about 1948, and employed on engines since the 1950s !!!


The Polydyne Profile
In the mid 1950s, with the aid of an electronic computer, the "Polydyne" formula was employed by iskenderian engineers.This revolutionary camshaft profile combined the advantage of the polynomial equation with the dynamics of the valve train.In the operation of high speed, highly flexible systems, interior performance may be attributed to the difference between what the cam commands the valve to do and what the valve actually does. This erratic action is caused by elasticity, or by the varying degree of stiffness or rigidity of the valve train components.Therefor e, the valves do not always follow the dictates of the cam profile under all conditions.

http://www.iskycams.com/advanced-design.html

[Tusayan]

I think what they're saying is that they did a fairly thorough study on the cam timing to get more power, no doubt using modern methods (CAD & CFD etc), with the result being minimized valve weight (titanium) and cam timing that takes into account the stiffness and dynamics of the valve train.  All that is typical in 2018 but may never have been done on the small block.

I can imagine that if you're looking to extract more power from an old engine design without spending a lot or changing a lot, that'd be a place to start.  Guzzi did something similar with Crane for the 1100 Sport engine.

[TimmyTheHog]

Trustworthy news source, with thoroughly researched and fact-checked information:

"The V85 unit is the most powerful Moto Guzzi V-twin"


HaHa 

I feel like they completely forgot Moto Guzzi exists before the small block V7...

[Gustavo]

Moto who?   

You assume they knew it existed to be able to forget...      No, seriously, for younger riders in the US, between the limited lineup and dealer presence, I wouldn't be surprised if most riders never heard of it.  I'm curious to see if they will have any presence at AIMExpo this week.


Gustavo

[ohiorider]

Huzo, you asked the question "...who's going to pull the trigger on a V85?..."  I have to ask, are you going to pull the trigger?
You may have already expressed your commitment to doing so.

Bob

[rschrum]

Glad to see you can still say, pull the trigger, without getting in trouble.