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Offline richthib

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V85TT Center stand install
« on: September 17, 2019, 11:25:03 PM »
Has anybody self installed the center stand kit for the new V85TT?  I'm picking up the part from the dealer tomorrow and they want $200 to install, so I thought I'd give it a go.  Any special tips or tricks?
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Re: V85TT Center stand install
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2019, 12:51:49 PM »
Can’t be too hard—- my dealer did it for the price of the stand.... :boozing:

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Re: V85TT Center stand install
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2019, 01:00:42 PM »
Do it yourself and take the $200 and spend it on your wife.
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Re: V85TT Center stand install
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2019, 03:25:16 PM »
If you don't get the instructions with your center stand, see if you can get a pdf  from AF1 Racing.  It's a very tight fit and three hands are better than two~!
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Re: V85TT Center stand install
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Re: V85TT Center stand install
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2019, 06:40:51 PM »
Can’t be too hard—- my dealer did it for the price of the stand.... :boozing:

Me too.  Dealer installed accessories pre-delivery.  Kev an I put one on my V7.  Springs are a bitch, so have some sort of puller.
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Re: V85TT Center stand install
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2019, 10:56:35 PM »
Speaking of the center stand springs - I used a brake spring puller (almost like a hay hook) attached to a come-along and my Kendon trailer as an anchor and I still had to chock the wheels on the trailer to prevent it from moving toward the bike as I pulled ---  those springs are tough!!

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Re: V85TT Center stand install
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2019, 03:44:34 AM »
I just watched a video of an english guy who was detailing the things he likes and doesn't like after 4000 miles on his V85. He tried to put the centrestand on himslef but found it too hard and had to get the dealer to do it. He said that the mechanic who did it was not happy.
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Re: V85TT Center stand install
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2019, 06:26:56 AM »
I take the centrestand off my Norge to grease the pivots at service and replace it by hooking up the springs, then using the leverage of the stand to install the pivot bolts.
Don’t know if that’ll work on the V85...(yet)  :clock:

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Re: V85TT Center stand install
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2020, 05:26:29 PM »
Installed the center stand today using a folding lugnut wrench I'd saved from an old TR-8, some 505 cord, a cable clamp to keep the cord from slipping, and lots of vinyl pipe tape to prevent scratches.  Once I got the cords sorted, it was fairly painless.  Here's a photo.



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Re: V85TT Center stand install
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2020, 06:49:07 PM »
On tonti frame bikes I put coins or washers in the spring to lengthen it until I can clip on a needle nose vice grip and slip it over the pin. I’m sure it’s more complicated on a new machine. But everything is😄
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Re: V85TT Center stand install
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2020, 07:52:54 PM »
On tonti frame bikes I put coins or washers in the spring to lengthen it...
That was Plan A (actually it was more like Plan G, but who keeps count of these things?).  Unfortunately the springs were too stiff and those protective rubber tubes covered too much of the coils for me to make it work.  People on the Advrider forum recommended any number of other good schemes (those were Plans H through N), but these seemed to have issues too.  I was going to fabricate a puller from an eyebolt and an angle bracket (Plan O), because members of my tribe are genetically coded to devise complicated solutions to simple problems.  Then, when I was rummaging through my old tools, I noticed a forgotten lugnut wrench that would fit perfectly into the loop at the foot of the stand and just screamed to be used as a lever (Plan P).

After that, the rest was easy.  No muss, no fuss, no cursing, no bloody knuckles, no "If this bit slips, life sucks," moments  :grin:  I hope this scheme is of some use to someone else.

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Re: V85TT Center stand install
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2020, 12:25:29 AM »
Well you don’t need to know how I did mine then..
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Re: V85TT Center stand install
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2020, 08:29:53 PM »





I like your method to stretch the springs. My Postal Gal delivered a big box today that contained my center stand and engine guards. I got right on the center stand installation. I removed the muffler and cat because I didn't think there was room enough to get the center stand bolts in place. I think it did make things a bit easier. When I got to the time to stretch the springs I contemplated some way to get a mechanical advantage. I ended up tying the stand in the up position, and put a long stout Philips screw driver thru the hole in the spring holder thing. Then I pried against the stand itself where the rubber bumpers are. I was able to get it close, just needed a bit more leverage. So I got a big long large box end wrench that was big enough to slip over the screw driver handle and give me more leverage. That was fairly easy to pull the springs back till the hook grabbed it's pin.

I would caution folks to be careful when removing the header pipe covers. The little hex head screws are easy to strip. I have one I have to deal with tomorrow to finish up the job.
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Re: V85TT Center stand install
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2020, 07:01:51 AM »
I would caution folks to be careful when removing the header pipe covers. The little hex head screws are easy to strip. I have one I have to deal with tomorrow to finish up the job.

One of mine was totally stripped too.  I had to cut a slot with the Dremel do I could remove with a flat head screwdriver.  Replaced them all with new stainless bolts and washers.  Had the shields and bash plate Cerakoted while I was at it.



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Re: V85TT Center stand install
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2020, 12:01:05 PM »
I took out the lower plug cover on the rear drive, threaded in a long bolt.  Then took an all-thread rod and put a eye-bolt on one end, looped it over said bolt.  Put on several washers at the other end (one with a hole drilled through it) and a nut.  Wired the spring holder to the washer with some baling wire (balin' war) and used the nut to suck it backwards on the threaded rod.  Pretty painless.  Had to cut the all-thread to fit (about 1.5 foot long).
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Re: V85TT Center stand install
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2021, 03:14:48 PM »
If anybody is still having issues with stretching the springs for centerstand installation on a V85TT, I found it very easy to use a tie down strap (ratcheting type not required).  First install the stand without the spring assembly.  Then install the spring assembly to the bike, not the stand.  Then connect one end of the tie down strap through hole in the aft spring hook, the other end wrapped around the rear wheel rim at the back, close to the ground.  Then just push the bike forward and use the mechanical advantage of the rear wheel to stretch the spring to be installed on the pre-installed centerstand.  Push the rear spring hook onto the stand and you’re done.  Make sure to protect the rear rim from the strap with a rag.  Super easy.





If you leave the bike in gear and pull the clutch when pushing the bike forward, holding the front brake and then releasing the clutch when the spring is stretched will leave the spring at the right length for installation on the stand.
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Re: V85TT Center stand install
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2021, 04:00:25 PM »
If anybody is still having issues with stretching the springs for centerstand installation on a V85TT, I found it very easy to use a tie down strap (ratcheting type not required).  First install the stand without the spring assembly.  Then install the spring assembly to the bike, not the stand.  Then connect one end of the tie down strap through hole in the aft spring hook, the other end wrapped around the rear wheel rim at the back, close to the ground.  Then just push the bike forward and use the mechanical advantage of the rear wheel to stretch the spring to be installed on the pre-installed centerstand.  Push the rear spring hook onto the stand and you’re done.  Make sure to protect the rear rim from the strap with a rag.  Super easy.

If you leave the bike in gear and pull the clutch when pushing the bike forward, holding the front brake and then releasing the clutch when the spring is stretched will leave the spring at the right length for installation on the stand.
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Re: V85TT Center stand install
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2021, 10:05:55 AM »
That strap approach was pretty clever!
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Re: V85TT Center stand install
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2022, 08:14:18 PM »
If anybody is still having issues with stretching the springs for centerstand installation on a V85TT, I found it very easy to use a tie down strap (ratcheting type not required).  First install the stand without the spring assembly.  Then install the spring assembly to the bike, not the stand.  Then connect one end of the tie down strap through hole in the aft spring hook, the other end wrapped around the rear wheel rim at the back, close to the ground.  Then just push the bike forward and use the mechanical advantage of the rear wheel to stretch the spring to be installed on the pre-installed centerstand.  Push the rear spring hook onto the stand and you’re done.  Make sure to protect the rear rim from the strap with a rag.  Super easy.





If you leave the bike in gear and pull the clutch when pushing the bike forward, holding the front brake and then releasing the clutch when the spring is stretched will leave the spring at the right length for installation on the stand.

I just installed my center stand and although I used a ratchet strap I didn’t tie it to the wheel like you did Tusayan. I think the idea is brilliant but I was afraid of damaging the spokes.

What I did do the same as you was install the stand hook facing down and when I went back to look at the directions it’s facing up like the one connected to the frame. Getting that thing on there was not easy and I do not look forward to taking it off, turning it around and putting it back on again. So tell me, has it made a difference? I can’t see why it would but then again I don’t want the thing flying off while I’m riding.
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Re: V85TT Center stand install
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2022, 08:04:13 PM »
If anybody is still having issues with stretching the springs for centerstand installation on a V85TT, I found it very easy to use a tie down strap (ratcheting type not required).  First install the stand without the spring assembly.  Then install the spring assembly to the bike, not the stand.  Then connect one end of the tie down strap through hole in the aft spring hook, the other end wrapped around the rear wheel rim at the back, close to the ground.  Then just push the bike forward and use the mechanical advantage of the rear wheel to stretch the spring to be installed on the pre-installed centerstand.  Push the rear spring hook onto the stand and you’re done.  Make sure to protect the rear rim from the strap with a rag.  Super easy.





If you leave the bike in gear and pull the clutch when pushing the bike forward, holding the front brake and then releasing the clutch when the spring is stretched will leave the spring at the right length for installation on the stand.
I installed mine about six months ago using this technique discovered on WildGuzzi.  It was a snap.
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Re: V85TT Center stand install
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2022, 09:10:54 AM »
I flipped the hook so it is facing up shortly after figuring out the technique posted.  You can do it either way, although as I remember it was slightly more challenging when I flipped it.

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Re: V85TT Center stand install
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2022, 03:59:03 PM »
Search for Cubbysue on youtube. Thie guy has several "how to" videos including how to fit a center stand. I followed his example after watching the video twice and had no trouble fitting the stand.
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