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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2015, 12:14:55 PM »
I gather that GuzziDiag is a free program and all I need is the interface cable to operate it from my computer? Am I right?

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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2015, 01:34:46 PM »
Got the cables. Will report on my success.
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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2015, 01:45:26 PM »
Yup, sorry for late answer...
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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #33 on: February 03, 2015, 02:04:19 PM »
Guzzidiag does not work with the 1TB models...yet.  It's a totally different ECU.  Rexxer does work.
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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #33 on: February 03, 2015, 02:04:19 PM »

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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2015, 02:46:34 PM »
Guzzidiag does not work with the 1TB models...yet.  It's a totally different ECU.  Rexxer does work.

I BELIEVE that Guzzidiag is SUPPOSED to work with the 1TB models, but the MAP READING/WRITING software does not yet.

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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2015, 07:29:16 AM »
Oops, well...

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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2015, 07:51:58 AM »
I BELIEVE that Guzzidiag is SUPPOSED to work with the 1TB models, but the MAP READING/WRITING software does not yet.



Confirmed, Guzzidiag reads the various parameters of my '13 V7 Stone's ECU, and can reset the TPS, but no map reading/writing yet.  C'mon, pauldaytona, the world is waiting!
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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2015, 08:24:51 AM »
So no chance that it will work enough to reset the TPS?

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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2015, 08:43:59 AM »
Thanks Sib,
Relieved!

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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2015, 09:01:45 AM »
Thanks Sib,
Relieved!

Yeah, what SIB said, assuming you don't have the luck I did (which I'm assuming is either a bad/incompatible cable or my own incompetence with a keyboard).

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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2015, 02:23:09 PM »
As soon as Mark and I manage to get together at a time when I have a V7 and a Cali 14 in the shop we hope to be able to piggy-back onto PADS while its doing an upload for both the MUI3G and the 7SM. Once we have that info we can send it to Beard and Paul and hopefully they'll be able to work their magic and produce a Reader and Writer for both of them.

The problem is that Mark obviously has a real job and we live 300km apart which means the starts all have to align for it to happen.

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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #41 on: March 05, 2015, 08:45:06 AM »
Update:
Well, I have the bike up on the bench. I have replaced the crashed out parts, repaired and painted the tank and re installed the intake assembly. The shorty slip ons are on there and I have the interface cable from England. We have guzzidiag set up on a lap top, the led on the connector is on indicating proper connection, but we can't get connectivity to the program. It just always says "disconnected". The cable came with some literature that describes the proper procedure but it is a no-go. The bike starts but it looks like no luck on a randomly proper TPS setting. Any throttle kills it immediately.

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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #42 on: March 05, 2015, 08:53:57 AM »
Update:
Well, I have the bike up on the bench. I have replaced the crashed out parts, repaired and painted the tank and re installed the intake assembly. The shorty slip ons are on there and I have the interface cable from England. We have guzzidiag set up on a lap top, the led on the connector is on indicating proper connection, but we can't get connectivity to the program. It just always says "disconnected". The cable came with some literature that describes the proper procedure but it is a no-go. The bike starts but it looks like no luck on a randomly proper TPS setting. Any throttle kills it immediately.

That's exactly the problem with the cable I had the last time I tried on my 13 Stone (over a year ago now).

The odd part was that the cable and laptop connected to an earlier model V7C that same day.

I'm told some of the cables come through with a chip that is incompatible to some models, and I keep meaning to order another from a different source.

I'm pretty sure SOME members here have had success hooking up a single throttle body V7 Stone to GuzziDiag, but I can't verify that.

Does Motorcycle Mall (I shudder to ask) have the OEM scan tool? Might be worth trailering it over there and back. In theory (if they're willing) they might be able to hook it up and reset the TPS in a matter of minutes, bike still on trailer or in truck.
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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #43 on: March 05, 2015, 11:03:31 AM »
That's what the guy who re flashed it told me to do when I called him. Now I own a nice new cable. For next time

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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #44 on: March 05, 2015, 02:51:11 PM »
If you got the cable from Lonelec, it's the correct chip. However, the drivers they send are old. Make sure you don't install the drivers they send. Assuming you are using Windoze.

Drivers known to work: CLICKY

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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #45 on: March 05, 2015, 04:24:09 PM »
We definitely used their drivers, I'll look into it. Thanks for the info!

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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #46 on: March 06, 2015, 09:58:47 AM »
Damn that sounds a bit like the guy who was on here in NYC that was rebuilding a salvage he'd bought for his girlfriend.

He was going to put short mufflers on the thing, and had already changed out the bars to something more flat-tracky... I think there was some talk of it being sorta Scrambler-esque.

Wonder if they broke up and this is that bike.

Is the speedo normal? I think he was either just refacing it or putting on a custom instrument cluster or something.

There's a thread here about it.

Anyway, popular theory is that it is very self-adjusting, but like everything it has its limits and that even if self-adjusting some would prefer it remapped anyway.

But it sounds like you have your answer - sounds similar to the Guzzitech reflash - remove the ECM (integral with the throttle body in this case), send it for the flash, get it back and have the TPS reset (though I wonder why that's necessary in this case, on the other Guzzitech reflashes that's necessary because the TPS remains behind on the bike's mechanical throttle linkage, but in this case the TPS is integral with said throttle body/ECM assembly and went along for the ride so you would think whoever relfashed it would have reset it too).

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That is some detective skills there Kev  ;-T
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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #47 on: March 06, 2015, 03:12:48 PM »
Single TB
Rexxer ECU mod
= you will definitely need to do a TPS reset via P.A.D.S. then all will be right with the world.

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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #48 on: April 16, 2015, 10:04:15 AM »
The bike is done and is pretty much perfect. TPS reset by dealer did the trick. Loud shorty mufflers, custom lights and paint. Runs great. I am really impressed with the power output. I would love to post a picture of it, with and without the owner. I'll look into how that's done! Thanks guys!

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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #49 on: April 16, 2015, 10:24:47 AM »
The bike is done and is pretty much perfect. TPS reset by dealer did the trick. Loud shorty mufflers, custom lights and paint. Runs great. I am really impressed with the power output. I would love to post a picture of it, with and without the owner. I'll look into how that's done! Thanks guys!
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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2015, 10:52:45 AM »
Ok, how do I post a picture here? I am using tapatalk. Annoyed!

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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #51 on: April 16, 2015, 11:12:08 AM »
On my Android the Tapatalk as app has a + button to the left of the text input screen.

Select that, then chose the camera icon if you want to post an image from your device allowing the app to host it.

It will ask you what image, you select it, it will allow some editing if you want, then click done and the code appears:



Or you can tap the IMG icon and manually enter the web address of the pic you want.
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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #53 on: April 16, 2015, 12:00:09 PM »
Thanks Kevin, here is the shot I promised. Again, I appreciate the help.

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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #54 on: April 16, 2015, 12:19:04 PM »
Looks pretty good!

Runs well, even with the shorty mufflers eh?

Thanks for keeping us in the loop with this project.

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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #56 on: April 24, 2015, 07:32:36 AM »
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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #57 on: April 24, 2015, 08:05:46 AM »
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Did you ever get the story why the boyfriend stopped working on it?

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Re: 14' v7 muffler change, requires ecu remap?
« Reply #58 on: April 24, 2015, 08:53:17 AM »
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Did you ever get the story why the boyfriend stopped working on it?

(#Gossip)

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I have a theory Kev; there's no way he'd stop working for her needs. I'm thinking she fired him for good.  ;)
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