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To me, a sport touring bike is one that takes the best elements of the manufacturer's touring bike, and slims it down, slightly changes the rider's posture to more of a 'lean into it,' perhaps adds better suspension.The bike isn't designed to make touring more of a sporting proposition. It's designed for those who like less than a full touring bike, but who like the basic design features of the full bore tourer, without the barn door fairing and windshield, and the higher handlebars.< snip >To me, a well-designed sport tourer lets me enjoy the elements surrounding me more so than would a full blown touring bike. But at the same time, when the elements turn bad (wetter, colder, etc) the sport touring bike provides enough protection to make the ride ok.
If an Eldo is doing the ton, is it a Sport Tourer? Labels mean nothing to anyone but the uneducated.Bill Lovelady ISEskimo Spy
To me, a sport touring bike is one that takes the best elements of the manufacturer's touring bike, and slims it down, slightly changes the rider's posture to more of a 'lean into it,' perhaps adds better suspension.The bike isn't designed to make touring more of a sporting proposition. It's designed for those who like less than a full touring bike, but who like the basic design features of the full bore tourer, without the barn door fairing and windshield, and the higher handlebars.
on the other hand...To me, a sport touring bike is a sportsbike with bags. The archetype factory sport-touring machine is the Ducati ST2. They took all the elements of the company's best sportsbikes and slightly changed the rider's position to make the bike more comfortable for long days in the saddle.The bike is designed to make sporting more of a touring proposition. It's designed for those who want more long distance comfort than a full sporting bike, and some of the features of a "tourer" without all the unnecessary size and weight.So, I guess these are examples of the differences in SPORT-touring and sport-TOURING... LOL!!!
Found this quote on Wiki, attributed to Peter Egan. "The first sport-tourer is said to be the fully faired 1977 BMW R100RS.[1] [2] Journalist Peter Egan defines the sport-tourer as a "caf� racer that doesn't hurt your wrists and a touring bike that doesn't feel like a tank," and identified the R100RS as the first example he owned.
My introduction to "sport-touring" came in the 1990s with a bunch of Ducati and Triumph riders I was riding with.Sport-Touring was some Marsee soft luggage strapped onto our Ducati Monsters, Ducati Supersports, Triumph Daytonas and Guzzi Sport 1100s.We rode all over the country like that. But especially The Ozarks and The Rockies. Hotels/Motels at night, as we didn't carry camping gear. Into the 2000s we were making one to two week trips like this.Several riders in the group transitioned onto the Ducati ST2 and ST4 when they became available. Some went to the Triumph Sprint.That was 20-years ago, now, and many of those guys I rode with don't ride much anymore. None of them transitioned to cruisers. Their miles just went down and down until they didn't ride at all, anymore. Some of the guys that still ride did go to things like the BMW-RT and the Guzzi Norge.
My first was a 510 mile sojourn on a '74 Yamaha RD200E. Perfect for those 55 mph national speed limit days...and at 309 lbs (full of gas), it was quite sporting.
Well then : ) As someone mentioned Tiddlers my very first "trip" was to Bathurst fromSydney on a Honda Benley 125 Twin when I was 17 ................... ........Would that be considered Sporting?Maurie.
No interstate, right?Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
Don't know the road. Curvy or straight?Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
Interstate is just touring. You can do that on any old bike...Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
This. Sport touring, as compared to sport Touring is different. Running down the interstate? You can do that on any sled. I'd rather be in the car..
So if part of your ride to where you are going on your Ducati ST3 happens to have an Interstate designation, the Ducati is no longer a "Sport Tourer", you aren't "sport touring", and you might as well be in a car?I think this thread has gone a bit silly. It certainly started pear-shaped.Lannis