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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: tasdisr on January 04, 2019, 11:13:04 AM
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For anyone interested Cadre Cycle in Cincinnati looks to have the V9's on sale. The Roamer is $6300 and the Bobber is $6500. Not sure how many they have but seems like a heck of a price.
They are also raffling off a V7III Stone for $25 a chance with only 400 tickets being sold.
https://cadrecycle.com/v9-roamer/
https://cadrecycle.com/v9-bobber/
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Enzo is a stand up guy. . :thumb:
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he's also the second largest dealer by volume of out the door new Guzzi's in 2018 in the US of A. He's doing a hell of a job.
A NEW V9 with a 2 year warranty, no plastic anything, 6500 out the door?? That gives one pause.
I was by the shop today. Enzo told me that he's also including the Euro footpeg relocation kit free with every bike, so you leave with two sets, the US mounted, the Euro in a box. And he's got over 20 of these bikes (V9's specifically.)
I saw 11 new V7's (2 iterations of Carbons, Stones, Milano, Sports)
a Bobber and a Roamer
New Eldo
New Audace
New MGX21
Various used Guzzis from 90's Cali's to a Norge and other Marques as well.
That's commitment to the brand, folks. tell your friends.
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Arse!
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he's also the second largest dealer by volume of out the door new Guzzi's in 2018 in the US of A. He's doing a hell of a job.
A NEW V9 with a 2 year warranty, no plastic anything, 6500 out the door?? That gives one pause.
I was by the shop today. Enzo told me that he's also including the Euro footpeg relocation kit free with every bike, so you leave with two sets, the US mounted, the Euro in a box. And he's got over 20 of these bikes (V9's specifically.)
I saw 11 new V7's (2 iterations of Carbons, Stones, Milano, Sports)
a Bobber and a Roamer
New Eldo
New Audace
New MGX21
Various used Guzzis from 90's Cali's to a Norge and other Marques as well.
That's commitment to the brand, folks. tell your friends.
I was up there yesterday to pick up a couple of chances on the V7. I bought a yellow V9 Roamer from Enzo last year.
Definitely committed to the brand and the customer. A class act!
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And how many of us are holding off, patiently waiting on the V85 tt?
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Bought some tickets today. Hey, you never know!
Correct me if I'm mistaken but don't the V9 bikes, since last year, ship with the relocation kit as part of the package no charge?
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Everybody loves Enzo, he’s the best! :thumb:
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I had service work done at cadre last summer, although it's a 6 hour trip it was well worth it. Being my first Guzzi I had quite a few questions, very good bunch of guys. I'll buy my next one off of Enzo. I purchased a couple tickets online for the stone raffle. I'm never lucky with winning anything, but maybe it will change.
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I'd be very surprised if they didn't add the $500 freight cost to that number.
Just sayin'
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Another thumbs up here for service and sales. previously, i had a bmw that required some serious work. cadre did an excellent job in a timely manner at a fair price given that the bike had to be split in half. a year later, it developed another serious problem unrelated to the work performed the previous year. Cadre gave me a fair trade for my non-driving bmw and helped me buy my present ride at a very fair price. how many dealers refuse to give you real money for clean, well running trades? most of them? broken trades? i think the answer is one, cadre.
as for an additional $500. if you were to call them up and ask them, they would honestly tell you yes or no. but i think that they advertise a $50 doc. fee. Enzo and the crew go further for their customers than anyone i have experienced. Having visited Hamlins, I would estimate that they are in the same league.
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I'd be very surprised if they didn't add the $500 freight cost to that number.
Just sayin'
No sir. That’s out the door. He made a commitment on (I believe) 23 bikes and got a deal. He’s passing it along. And this thread shows you why. His rep as a dealer with integrity, inventory and qualified wrenches is growing.
I stopped in on my way through Cincy yesterday, a town I don’t get to often. Despite being ina 28 ft straight truck, I took a chance on being able to stop at his place and swung by. I found a shop with over a dozen bikes outdoors in the air. Parked my truck and walked into a small older shop, guzzi swag, selection of oils and accessories on this wall, an array of Agostini pipes on that. New Guzzi’s crammed everywhere but all able to be straddled. Asked if Enzo was around and the guy pointed over my shoulder. I did a 180 and waved at the his smiling mug across the room. “Hey Kip!” After introducing me to his notary as their meeting wrapped up, he offered and produced a cup o’ joe and chatted with me for a half hour. Mind you the shop was busy. There were a 3-4 wrenches in the shop. Guzzi’s an airhead and a couple japanese bikes on lifts. I finally released him because i felt I was cutting into his productivity.
I’ve never been to his place before yet he greeted me by my first name. This is because he’s been to rally’s and met the guys who love the brand. He also knows I ride a 19 yr old iteration of the cheapest bike Guzzi’s ever built, and don’t have a track record of purchasing squat, yet he gave me the time of day, and much more.
I know all the details about this V9 push not because he was pushing a sale but because I was peppering him with questions because I’m fascinated as to how a guy like him is making a go of it with all that we hear about the challenges of working with Piaggio. Rose Farm, C&D, Cleveland Moto are all dealerships withing 400 miles of him who’ve hung it up recently. He’s got a bride and small kids, he’s a sharp guy with no doubt lots of options and yet, he’s hanging his hat on Moto Guzzi.
The guys here who know me know I’m constantly hemmin’ and hawin’ Over another bike, virtually everything on 2 wheels is in play, usually the one in front of me is the hottest one. I’m fickle and cheap. But I like to know who I’m working with. Enzos already supplied me parts from afar. Should I need service beyond the skill of myself and this forums council, he’ll provide it. And should the sirens call of an ABS traction controlled standard and a work bonus ever pique at the same time, he’s the only guy I’ll call.
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So, I called them - and talked to Enzo.
Bought a white roamer. Only available in white.
$6,300 + $550 freight + 50 doc fee = $6,900 out the door. Tax title extra. Pick it up next Saturday.
I DID tell him that I learned about it on the Wild Guzzi forum.
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Congratulations. I hope your weather is good for your pickup like today. Just returned from a ride.
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So, I called them - and talked to Enzo.
Bought a white roamer. Only available in white.
$6,300 + $550 freight + 50 doc fee = $6,900 out the door. Tax title extra. Pick it up next Saturday.
I DID tell him that I learned about it on the Wild Guzzi forum.
Attaboy.. :thumb:
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Well, it's 400+ miles from here.
Is it too early to start shopping accessories ?
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Good for you. I go that far to Hamlin's. Worth it for a good dealer.
I'm confused on the deal, though. $6900.00 out the door I thought ment total, tax and all that. You had tax added? Still a great price, but with all the conversation about dealer pricing transparency I wanted to be sure I was understanding the language correctly. Either way, nice price for sure.
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Good for you. I go that far to Hamlin's. Worth it for a good dealer.
I'm confused on the deal, though. $6900.00 out the door I thought meant total, tax and all that. You had tax added? Still a great price, but with all the conversation about dealer pricing transparency I wanted to be sure I was understanding the language correctly. Either way, nice price for sure.
Oh that's right - some states collect all that at the point of sale. No, Missouri isn't one of those states.
It's $6,900 out the door for the motorcycle (even though it is being purchased in Ohio). Sales tax, title, license is paid separately at the DMV for Missouri residents
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I'm in NY. Everything sucks here!
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I'm in NY. Everything sucks here!
Oh crap. Tell me it isn't so !
I still have Upstate New York on my bucket list !
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Congratulations. I hope your weather is good for your pickup like today. Just returned from a ride.
:thumb: Thanks !
62 and sunny here today.
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So, I called them - and talked to Enzo.
Bought a white roamer. Only available in white.
$6,300 + $550 freight + 50 doc fee = $6,900 out the door. Tax title extra. Pick it up next Saturday.
I DID tell him that I learned about it on the Wild Guzzi forum.
Right on! And I stand corrected. Apologies.
I do believe this is your bike. Only White Roamer on hand.
(https://i.ibb.co/Dp8LJnw/90-AB856-A-1735-4249-9-D53-432972-BB45-C0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Dp8LJnw)
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When I talked with him he said there’s a lot of interest in the V85, aside from that he’s gotta clear out space
For the new models. He’s become a regional power selling parts too and his service is great. That and being a
Stand alone MG dealer seems like a good formula.
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Oh that's right - some states collect all that at the point of sale. No, Missouri isn't one of those states.
It's $6,900 out the door for the motorcycle (even though it is being purchased in Ohio). Sales tax, title, license is paid separately at the DMV for Missouri residents
Ya did good. I don’t care what anybody says, that price for that bike is a steal. The amount of bike you got there for that price is darn near ridiculous. I’ve had various V7 iterations, 8V Guzzis, 1100 Guzzis, 1200 Guzzi, and IMHO the V9 is my favorite engine of them all. Way to go. And, on top of all that you’ll have the backup of one of the best Guzzi dealers in the States.
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I do believe this is your bike. Only White Roamer on hand.
(https://i.ibb.co/Dp8LJnw/90-AB856-A-1735-4249-9-D53-432972-BB45-C0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Dp8LJnw)
hahahaaa funny that you should mention that. I said that I couldn't get out there until a week from today and he said that he would call me later in the week to make sure that my bike was there, as this group of bikes were "enroute".
I wonder if he had already sold that one in the pic
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Way to go!
Great bike, deal and dealer! :thumb:
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NY is a nice place to visit-just don't live here.
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hahahaaa funny that you should mention that. I said that I couldn't get out there until a week from today and he said that he would call me later in the week to make sure that my bike was there, as this group of bikes were "enroute".
I wonder if he had already sold that one in the pic
I believe the one in the pic is a demo. I rode a white V9 he had on hand in October before I bought mine
(https://i.ibb.co/7SfChnY/F05-AA1-D1-5-B16-4695-92-BE-B6-CB6-AF77-D27.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7SfChnY)
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So, I called them - and talked to Enzo.
Bought a white roamer. Only available in white.
$6,300 + $550 freight + 50 doc fee = $6,900 out the door. Tax title extra. Pick it up next Saturday.
I DID tell him that I learned about it on the Wild Guzzi forum.
Congrats!
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Congrats!
Right, I wished I lived closer.
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I know all the details about this V9 push not because he was pushing a sale but because I was peppering him with questions because I’m fascinated as to how a guy like him is making a go of it with all that we hear about the challenges of working with Piaggio. Rose Farm, C&D, Cleveland Moto are all dealerships withing 400 miles of him who’ve hung it up recently. He’s got a bride and small kids, he’s a sharp guy with no doubt lots of options and yet, he’s hanging his hat on Moto Guzzi.
While I admire Cadre devotion & commitment, judging by all of the dealers that at one time carried Guzzi and no longer do or who are no longer even in business, his business model does not bode well for their longevity. I wish them the best, maybe the V85 will save the dealers!
See post #4 in this WG thread: https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99301.0
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While I admire Cadre devotion & commitment, judging by all of the dealers that at one time carried Guzzi and no longer do or who are no longer even in business, his business model does not bode well for their longevity. I wish them the best, maybe the V85 will save the dealers!
See post #4 in this WG thread: https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99301.0
i don't know what his books look like, but he's selling more than a new Guzzi a week, plus profit on used machines, plus all the servicing he's doing. As a small operator who keeps costs low....you never know. 1921. It's been a minute....
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Buying three of our four Guzzi's from Cadre, I can't speak highly enough for the integrity and quality of the team at Cadre.
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Buying three of our four Guzzi's from Cadre, I can't speak highly enough for the integrity and quality of the team at Cadre.
I agree 100%. :thumb:
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While I admire Cadre devotion & commitment, judging by all of the dealers that at one time carried Guzzi and no longer do or who are no longer even in business, his business model does not bode well for their longevity. I wish them the best, maybe the V85 will save the dealers!
See post #4 in this WG thread: https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99301.0
That is why I was confident buying a Guzzi from Sloan's in Murfreesboro. Moto Guzzi is just one of the 13 brands they carry. They only need to sell the minimum required a year to keep carrying them. They also carry all the other Paggio products.
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Oh crap. Tell me it isn't so !
I still have Upstate New York on my bucket list !
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VISITING here is awesome!! A stunningly beautiful state... LIVING here sucks!!! Unless you love throwing most of what you earn to the state....
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Well - the new "herd" of leftover motorbikes are still "in transit" as of this morning.
......... now queuing elevator music.......
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Well - the new "herd" of leftover motorbikes are still "in transit" as of this morning.
......... now queuing elevator music.......
I hate elevator music ... but it’ll be worth the wait!
(https://i.ibb.co/n7LyNgQ/62-CD96-BB-9620-4-B1-A-9-C6-F-B86-B9-B1-A4-ACF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/n7LyNgQ)
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I hate elevator music ... but it’ll be worth the wait!
(https://i.ibb.co/n7LyNgQ/62-CD96-BB-9620-4-B1-A-9-C6-F-B86-B9-B1-A4-ACF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/n7LyNgQ)
The roamer does have a nicer look than the bobber and a more relaxed riding position. Sloans has a leftover bobber but no roamer to test ride. I still think that if I add a third bike to my stable it will have more dual sport capability.
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The roamer does have a nicer look than the bobber and a more relaxed riding position. Sloans has a leftover bobber but no roamer to test ride. I still think that if I add a third bike to my stable it will have more dual sport capability.
I just think the Roamers are straight up gorgeous motorcycles.
(https://i.ibb.co/BjsBFMc/27-FA7-B59-DE04-475-D-90-DA-2-D763-E1-ADBE2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BjsBFMc)
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Well - the new "herd" of leftover motorbikes are still "in transit" as of this morning.
......... now queuing elevator music.......
.....and still waiting.......
But, the weather has been really [censored] so it's not really cutting into my riding time. THIS weekend is another two rounds of rain/sleet/snow.
:grin: :grin: :grin:
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For those that haven't been to Carde's here is a little web spot i put together for them in 2016.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYAWHJulSEQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYAWHJulSEQ)
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Very likely the BEST deal to be had on the planet for a new v9, is at Cadre. Blowout pricing through the end of this year, which for them will be the end of this week; $5500 plus $550 freight and tiny doc fee means out the door for me in IL $6120!!! And if you live within 250 miles, Free delivery! WoW!
Don't wait, pick up the phone now. Also 0 percent financing for three years is part of the deal if you want it.
Thats a brand new, $10,000 Guzzi for near half price, from one of the best Guzzi dealers in North America!
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Made the trip from Omaha to Cincy and back in two days last August (1524 miles total) to trade my Stelvio in for one of Enzo's V9 Bobbers. Best deal on a bike I have ever made. He set things up so we could do the deal and get right on the road home. Managed to put a little over 1k miles on it before the crappy weather started in early October. Lots of rain and early colder than normal temps pretty much shut things down a bit sooner than usual for here. Love the V9 as it is just what I was looking for what will most likely be my last two wheeler. :thumb:
(https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/GuzziRider/20190927_182615_zps5mverzeb.jpg) (https://s4.photobucket.com/user/GuzziRider/media/20190927_182615_zps5mverzeb.jpg.html)
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Made the trip from Omaha to Cincy and back in two days last August (1524 miles total) to trade my Stelvio in for one of Enzo's V9 Bobbers. Best deal on a bike I have ever made. He set things up so we could do the deal and get right on the road home. Managed to put a little over 1k miles on it before the crappy weather started in early October. Lots of rain and early colder than normal temps pretty much shut things down a bit sooner than usual for here. Love the V9 as it is just what I was looking for what will most likely be my last two wheeler. :thumb:
I got my V9 just before it got cold also, can't wait for Spring. Cadre's is the best!
(https://photos.smugmug.com/2017-Moto-Guzzi-Roamer/i-5fp5gtg/0/3dbea213/M/2017%20Moto%20Guzzi%20Romaer%20wAgostini%20%2812%29-M.jpg) (https://curtedwards.smugmug.com/2017-Moto-Guzzi-Roamer/i-5fp5gtg/A)
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It looks great with the Ago's and small shield. Of course, the good weather on the day you took the photo looks great too.
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Is that the same Enzo who lived in Seattle ten years ago or so?
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Is this pricing solely a Cadre promotion or is it a MG backed incentive program?
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As far as I think, the pricing is all CadreCycle. I didn't ask how they are able to do it, but i did ask how many Romer's they had, Enzo told me 8. The financing is however arranged by Piaggio.
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Is that the same Enzo who lived in Seattle ten years ago or so?
No.
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Wow, Curt. I've not seen any Roamer that looked good, 'til yours. That paint, the striping, the eagle on the front fender look great. Those shiny trombones are tres cool as well.
Certainly elegant for a Guzzi.
BTW: After a few dozen bikes over nearly 70 yrs. only 2 older bmw's didn't have clip-ons.
R3~
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i stopped by yesterday to give my holiday greetings. plenty of pretty bikes to look at including a black 2020 eldo, still one of the finest looking bikes on the road in my opinion. they were busy with service work and looking forward to the holiday break. no word yet on when the "traveller" version of the V85 is expected. for those interested in a triumph t100, he has a pretty whitish pearl one up there but i don't know the specifics.
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Wow, Curt. I've not seen any Roamer that looked good, 'til yours.
And with all due respect to Curt, I disagree :grin:
(https://i.ibb.co/93FQPCG/734248-FE-EB25-4-A06-B8-FF-1-B20-C7-F5-B940.jpg) (https://ibb.co/93FQPCG)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4460/23847777808_6e5f613241_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ckm6uU)FCB7FAD1-CC16-4B62-B11E-0134AB49A0E4 (https://flic.kr/p/Ckm6uU) by Brian (https://www.flickr.com/photos/flickr_bri/), on Flickr
And yes, Enzo and the bunch are super.
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I've known Enzo since he was a salesman at BMW of the Tristate in Cincinnati way back when.
I wish him the best with Cadre and even though I don't really buy new motorcycles (I've only bought ONE new one in my lifetime - my very first - a 1977 Yamaha 750 Special. And I traded that title for title for a '64 Panhead HD 3 months later). Yes, I enjoy working on bikes; either that or I'm a glutton for punishment!
That said - I must say that the comments here initiate the thought of having a NEW Moto Guzzi roll through my head.
Well done to Enzo for supporting the greatest motorcycle brand ever in the universe!
Oh yeah - Merry Christmas to everyone, hope Santa brings you all those Guzzi bits.
Ron
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cadre does well because they have a good business plan. but in my experience, the model is actually an old school model. when i started riding around 1980, most shops were relatively small (especially euro brand) and usually not in prime real estate, often in an industrial area. there were only a few larger dealerships that sold several of the japanese brands located in prime real estate areas. this kept overhead low for the dealers with smaller shops. with the rise of harley in the early 90s, many of the small shops morphed into the very expensive to maintain extravaganzas we see today. of course, bmw and many other brands had to follow the lead and force their dealers to lease or buy huge stores. the recession that started in 2006 demonstrated the flaw in that plan. cincinnati no longer has a bmw dealer because of it. the dealer where i bought a victory in 2008 went out a year later (huge space).
second, cadre started as a used bike repair shop. as such, adding guzzi was not such a stretch since they already had an established business and clientele. if they lost guzzi, they would still be in business.
third, they are all in on guzzi. it's not just a job, they have a real passion for the brand which is easy to see and it generates its own excitement. the floor is packed with bikes, all models and colors. i am an instant gratification type of guy, so those like me are much more likely to take one home if the one they want is right there in front of them.
fourth, they embrace selling trading and selling used bikes. how many of us have gone to a dealer and been told to sell your current bike yourself and come back. who really wants to do that? i have received very fair money on both of the bikes i have traded with them.
finally, the intangibles. hard to put into words, but its the experience you get when you visit. always welcomed but no pressure ever.
i think their future looks solid.
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cadre does well because they have a good business plan. but in my experience, the model is actually an old school model. when i started riding around 1980, most shops were relatively small (especially euro brand) and usually not in prime real estate, often in an industrial area. there were only a few larger dealerships that sold several of the japanese brands located in prime real estate areas. this kept overhead low for the dealers with smaller shops. with the rise of harley in the early 90s, many of the small shops morphed into the very expensive to maintain extravaganzas we see today. of course, bmw and many other brands had to follow the lead and force their dealers to lease or buy huge stores. the recession that started in 2006 demonstrated the flaw in that plan. cincinnati no longer has a bmw dealer because of it. the dealer where i bought a victory in 2008 went out a year later (huge space).
second, cadre started as a used bike repair shop. as such, adding guzzi was not such a stretch since they already had an established business and clientele. if they lost guzzi, they would still be in business.
third, they are all in on guzzi. it's not just a job, they have a real passion for the brand which is easy to see and it generates its own excitement. the floor is packed with bikes, all models and colors. i am an instant gratification type of guy, so those like me are much more likely to take one home if the one they want is right there in front of them.
fourth, they embrace selling trading and selling used bikes. how many of us have gone to a dealer and been told to sell your current bike yourself and come back. who really wants to do that? i have received very fair money on both of the bikes i have traded with them.
finally, the intangibles. hard to put into words, but its the experience you get when you visit. always welcomed but no pressure ever.
i think their future looks solid.
Well put and nice analysis. Couldn't agree more on the dealers that say "sell your old vehicle and come back". That just strikes me as lazy, although I know that in the automotive industry the best margins are on the USED vehicles which means the dealers are reluctant to provide anything beyond wholesale pricing for your trade. Sadly they just don't make anything on new vehicles.
So yes - Enzo's model to sell and service older machines is sound.
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Wow, Curt. I've not seen any Roamer that looked good, 'til yours. That paint, the striping, the eagle on the front fender look great. Those shiny trombones are tres cool as well.
Certainly elegant for a Guzzi.
BTW: After a few dozen bikes over nearly 70 yrs. only 2 older bmw's didn't have clip-ons.
R3~
Why thank you I love it!
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Not sure but don't think so.
Curt - Definitely not the same Enzo. Our Enzo was working at BMW of the Tristate in Cincinnati 10 years ago, maybe even longer ago as I've lost track of the time. Not sure if he's FROM Cincy but been there a long time.
Being a Tifosi, I've always thought he had a memorable name. Can't hurt you when you're selling Italian motorcycles!
Ron
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It looks great with the Ago's and small shield. Of course, the good weather on the day you took the photo looks great too.
Thanks! 60 Here Monday!!
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Well said Ron! :thumb:
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Is this pricing solely a Cadre promotion or is it a MG backed incentive program?
I know Sloans in Mufreesboro has deeply discounted pricing on bikes they just got from the distributor.