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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: willowstreetguzziguy on July 14, 2018, 02:41:58 PM
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We often complain about problems with our Guzzi's. But over the last 5 riding seasons, I've only had 3 problems on my '08 1200 Sport. The first 2 kept me off the road but were easily fixed, thanks to member's responses on this forum!...
1.) Startus Interuptus (got the kit and no more problems)
2.) Leaking paper valve cover gasket sprayed oil on my jeans. (replaced with silicon rubber ones, no leaks)
3.) The third one involved my oil pressure sending unit. twice it went bad Due to spraying water in that area when washing the bike. Able to ride it but couldn't read the items on the LCD display. An annoyance (replaced it with a new style unit and smeared silicone rubber around it to keep water out)
I find my 1200 Sport to be very reliable over the last 5 riding seasons.
How many problems have you had with your Guzzi's over the last 5 years? Did any of them keep you off the road?
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Results should be queried and graphed to keep from getting one sided perspective of quality. How many owner have not had issues? How many issues were related to the owner, environment, accidents, tip overs or other causes outside of Moto Guzzi's control?
I have not had any issues from my 2003 California. Every time it has been on the lift it has something to do with maintenance or elective surgery. I am happy with my Guzzi and trust it to be a very dependable motorcycle.
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How many problems have you had with your Guzzi's over the last 5 years?
'71 Ambo: Battery failure, used AMA roadside assistance to summon a flatbed hauler to bring it home. Only got 4.5 years of service on that old battery, I was expecting 5.... :huh:
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I keep wearing out both the front & rear tires! oh yes ... and one side stand support cracked after only 34 years of service. :angel:
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V7 (series 1) that I bought in 2014 had a bad starter. Died the 2nd day I had the bike. Otherwise, not a bit of trouble that I didn't cause myself. No issues with the Norge I got later. I've been very happy.
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I really do love my Norge but...Roller job, Oil sending unit leaking, muffler falling apart, Right lower fairing plastic melting against the header, five flats. The T-3, throttle cables.
GliderJohn
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Just the usual maintenance items except it looks like the Monza needs new oil seals on the transmission pushrod. Fortunately, I pawned it off on the Kid.. :evil: :grin:
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The only problems I've had were ones I caused myself , can't fault Guzzi on any of them.
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None. 2016 Eldorado, 2017 Anniversario. FLAWLESS!
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Over the last 5 years I have had a 2007 Griso, a V11 Lemans, and a V7II Stone (my current Guzzi). They all got roughly equal riding time, 5 to 7k miles on each bike within the 5 yr. window.
The Griso I bought new in 2009 and never had a single issue with.
The V11 Lemans had a crank position sensor? fail, which took a few months to diagnose.
The V7II has 6600 miles on it and has had no issues so far.
I must say though, prior to these I had a 2007 Norge that nearly soured me on the brand (but apparently, I got over it). It easily holds the record for most unreliable bike I have owned. Numerous issues, mostly electrical, one fatal.
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New rotor on the T3, new regulator & toasted the battery. Had cleaned up some connections- found more to clean!
LM2 electrical gremlin - earth/connection most likely.
Looking at the crud on the T3 connections I�d say she�s done pretty well.
A few years back the V11 had “relay issues” however cleaning up the earth sorted that too
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None, I worked the bugs out my bikes 20-30 yrs ago, I got sick of changing oil pressure sender on Cali 2, lite hasn't worked in 20yrs AND it runs just fine w/o it.
I usually fix other folks stuff not mine.
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I looked back on the last 5 years of riding the Guzzi. Zero problems and issues. I did let my inside spark plugs go a little long and replacing them made the bike run smoother. My only real problem was with the plastic dipstick. I replaced it with a metal one that goes outside of the fairing and all is well. (that was more than 5 years ago) I have been very happy with the quality of my Guzzi.
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I managed to blow up a 74 Eldo I built from spare parts that were used junk to begin with. (Trying to keep up with Michael D and his buddy :laugh: ) I made enough money selling it to buy a sweet 2005 Bonneville. The guy I sold it to made lots more money parting it out. Life is good.
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Coming from Hondas and Yamahas, the Breva was my first and only Guzzi. I can honestly say, if it hadn't been for MPH being who they were, its doubtful I would still have the Breva.
First year, failed dash, lots of oil pressure errors, failed starter on an out of town trip, lots of pinging. Mike at MPH, took very good care of me and fixed everything except the pinging. never got that fixed until I got a new map for a 1200.
second year, leaking throttle bodies, transmission bearing failure, key failures, and more oil can and oil pressure errors.
third year, the gas gauge started working when it wanted to. Low fuel light works fine, the gauge not so much. the on and off starter not working finally got fixed with MPH's startus inerruptus solution.
fourth, fifth, no issues. Flawless, just maintenance
Sixth, battery died.
Seventh, no issues.
eight year, oil weepping from oil pressure sensor. No one had one, finally matched one from autozone and its been good ever since. no leaks, no errors, nothing.
ninth year, had a valve cover gasket let go, oil went everywhere, not leaking, just went.
tenth year, no issues.
this year, blown fork seal, and rear brake issue.
I have owned this bike for more years and more miles than any other motorcycle I have ever owned, except for a FT500, which I should have never sold, still miss that bike.
I don't know why, but I just feel connected the Breva.
Old Head
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A white V7 Stone, bought new in March 2013. 21000 km since. Faults: a slightly leaking sealing at the rear axle, two broken upper shock holder screws because of a misaligned OEM luggage rack. Otherwise: nothing.
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Over the journey I've had very few issues that I didn't play somewhat of a role in causing.
Leaving them aside, there's been..
#1.
Flat battery from the get go, was replaced with a new one under warranty, dealer said the one I got in it (from new), was already old.
He reckons they bunged a shagged one in for delivery, bike was an '07 and purchased new in'08, so had sat around for a while.
#2.
Fairing mounting frame cracked and sagged due to a lack of gusseting in a critical location.
A local aircraft LAME fabricated and TIG welded a lovely folded gusset and no further drama.
#3.
Startus mod.
Outside the Collosseum of all places. Bumped started it down the hill and did the mod immediately when back in Oz. Just pulled the yellow wire, sealed it off and stuffed a fused heavy duty wire straight into the plug. Slam dunk.
#4.
First oil switch @ 60,000 and another @ 135,000.
#5.
Neutral light switch connector upgrade.
#6.
Electric windscreen motor weak as piss, would not crank against wind pressure.
Replaced with upgraded one under warranty early on.
Can't think of anything else significant.
Multitudinous modifications, but nothing that "needed" to be done, just a taste thing.
Oh BTW..
Y'all better halve that list, I was supposed to cover 5 years...
That was 10.
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I must say though, prior to these I had a 2007 Norge that nearly soured me on the brand (but apparently, I got over it). It easily holds the record for most unreliable bike I have owned. Numerous issues, mostly electrical, one fatal.
That's a bit scary..
Mine's an '07 Norge and I know you're not a tosser, so what problems did you have Alan ?
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'09 Norge: neutral sensor, oil pressure sensor, leaky CARC, numerous blown valve cover gaskets, broken cat inside muffler caused excess back-pressure under load (had to replace muffler), tabs on fairing lowers broke, battery died (but only after 5 years; the only issue that stranded me). Except for the dead battery, the problems were all resolved in the first 10-15 K miles; over the last 40 K miles of the bike's life, it had zero issues.
'07 Norge: startus interrruptus has been only problem over 11 K miles. This is my main bike now, and I'm happy that it has, so far, had fewer issues than my '09 Norge had early in its life.
Jon
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Aside from startus interteruptus on the Breva, which I fixed with parts from Advance Auto and the help of this board.... The only problems my Breva 1100 had were caused by a shoddy service from what used to be one of the S.East's most trusted dealers...
Other than that, the vent/drain tube from my filler cap collar out the bottom of the tank is clogged. I'm just waiting for an opportune time to address it (at home with an empty tank and a little time to fix it)
Now the v65 has cause me a boatload of heartache, but some of that was/is self inflicted.
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I've done a great deal of riding in the last five years and my '07 Vintage has been flawless. In fact, the only problems I've had in eleven years (apart from a few flats) is a leaky valve gasket and a popped-off in-tank fuel line. Neither of these issues stranded me...
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Hundreds :grin:. Life would be so uninteresting if nothing ever went wrong :evil:
Nick
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Those dang valve adjustments and tire changes are KILLIN' ME! I'm thinking about taking it back to the dealer! :angry:
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2012 Norge purchase 11/23/13
11/27/13 Oil leak oil leak on left head. Replaced 2ring seals. 6 weeks for parts to arrive, warrany
12/15/13. Muffler fell off in route, replaced under warranty
3/2/14. Exhaust gasket on right head blew out, warranty
6/24/15. Fuel tanked swelled to the point the handlebars hit. Rear lcaliper bolt frozen and ruined the caliper during tire change.. warranty
11/20/15. Purchased. 4 year extended warranty
12/18/15. Exhaust flange studs on left head sheared off, all 4replaced uncer extended warranty
3/1/17 oil pressure switch leaking, replaced under extended warranty
7/1/27. Oil leak. Rear vent tubes along with scatola portafiltro completa(whatever this is) peplaced under extended warranty. 7 weeks for parts to arrive
I think this is all, however i may have missed a few. I am still riding the moto, my wife thinks that i am a fool.
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Not in the last 5 yrs but thought I'd mention this in. '90 Mille Gt; cracked crank shaft, 3 teeth broken off ring gear, teeth chipped on pinion gear,chrome chipping off fork sliders & 1st flat in 20 yrs 60 miles from Frans location. Sent the rear drive to dealer/ importer Fran Contaldi in NC, 280 miles away & they returned it w/o the lower shock stud. I mounted it & found a close enough bolt to hold but stopped avery 40 miles or so to tap it in. He declined to pick me up..All within the 1st 2600 miles. Fran Contaldi, M/G importer @ the time said I didn't know how to ride a Guzzi (after many motorcycles). After due persistance he bought the bike back.
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Quota: Had a valve cover gasket go south on me 600 miles from the nearest dealer. Also a broken exhaust stud on that same trip.
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My Breva 750 has never had a problem except for;
(1) the gearbox
(2) the gearbox
(3) the gearbox
and while it is off the road for winter (4) the gearbox.
Luigi and his mates really had on off day when they built mine.
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I've had quite an adventure with my GRiSO over the past 2yrs/5months and 20 thousand miles.
Listed below are the issues that have plagued me and have left me stranded.
Thank You for your time...
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All of my guzzi’s have been sitting in the garage for the past five years—— so no problems 😂😂😂
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At the risk of jinxing myself; in the last five years --- my idiot light for oil pressure started coming on a few weeks back. I have a gauge plumbed in so I knew there wasn't a problem. Replaced the light sender, (Napa, less than $10).
I think it was in '13 or '14 I smoked the generator belt about 30 minutes south of Tobermory. Rode the last few miles without issue. I carry a spare and swapped it out while waiting for the ferry to arrive. Much to the enjoyment of other riders and motorists waiting for the boat. "Never heard of a Moto Guzzi, who makes that?" "You gotta be crazy traveling on an old bike like that." "Hey, look at this bro! This old bike has a fan belt".
Prior to this era; just after buying the bike and putting it back together in 2005, second gear broke in the five speed. The gearbox was about the only component I hadn't opened up and when I did I found some very rusty parts including the broken gears. I guess at some point in its life it had sat for a long time with water rather than oil in the box. I bought an Ambo 4 spd and its worked fine ever since.
And in 2006 while at the Ontario Guzzi riders rally in Utopia one of the distributor cap hold down clips went AWOL. The cap was dancing around and I had to hold it in place with my right hand while steering with my left until I could get to the side of the road and shut it off. Yes I was getting zapped in the process. The tie wraps I used to temporarily hold the cap down are still there... :embarrassed:
I should mention --- its a '74 Eldo with timing chain, disc brake and Amal carbs.
Ken
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I'm on my third goose.
1st: 04 California EV, rear drive shift seal, in 5000 miles
2nd: 07 CalVin, odometer failure ( cable and odometer both) in 6k miles
3rd: 2015 1400 tourer, 1500 miles, no issues as of yet.
I hope this will be my last bike, unless it gets to heavy as I get older and need a lighter bike to keep ridding.
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Our first (used) 06 Breva had a rear seal that needed changed soon after purchase. The bike had been sitting stationary for quite a while before purchase and possibly that may have helped create some sort of issue with the seal? I noticed some flecks of oil on the rear rim after a trip to Lake Placid and back.
We had the seal changed out and then the only other (almost an) issue was to do the "startus interuptus" on it. She ALMOST didn't start once while coming back from a trip. Did the mod the next day. No issues after that.
We had approximately 53,000 miles on her when she was sold to make room for a 15 Stelvio NTX. The current owner is still putting miles on the big B.
Next up was the Stelvio NTX. I tried to take care of all the "known issue" mods when I got the bike. Off the top of my head, I did the Euro indicator change, aprilia mirrors, and auxiliary lights wiring mod. I ordered, but didn't immediately install the new spark plug caps. Mistake! The big NTX started on one cylinder one day. Upon starting there was a strong "fuel" smell and no power when underway. Luckily, a quick stop and start remedied the issue. No fuel smell and regular power were back. The new NGK caps were installed the next day. Oh...the front fairing was getting very close to falling off. I put a few miles on the big girl and then decided it was time to go over the nuts and bolts...check for anything missing and the like. I found that half of the bolts holding the front fairing on were either gone or barely holding on by a thread or two. Not good.
I'll give the clutch "squalk" an honorable mention. As far as I know, it didn't cause any problems...I just didn't like the nasty sound and "grabbiness" of the clutch on the 1st starts of the day. I think we let her go with around 18,000 miles on the clock. Replaced by the Capo 1200.
Enter the second 06 Breva 1100. The first real issue we encountered was the crank position sensor not sensing! She started fine at the PO's house, but when we got back home after the 5 hour trip, she was a "no-starter". Getting fuel, but no spark. Taking the suggestions of the forum...and since I was going to be taking the tank off anyway, I popped the tank off and began investigating. For the heck of it, I disconnected the phase sensor and other connections and cleaned them and added some dielectric grease while I was in there. After a nice "click" of the connector and putting the tank back on, I turned the key. Woohoo! No red triangle. I ordered another phase sensor just in case, but we've put a couple thousand miles since then without issues.
We did the "startus interuptus" mod *Thanks to Bob!...and changed out the fuel filter for a preemptive strike against known "could happens".
richy
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V7 II purchased in 2016, now has 35k km. First year, had to replace final transmission gasket as it was leaking a bit of oil. Same with oil sump gasket as it oozed some oil. Had to replace the clutch cable cable twice as it snapped. Not sure what made the clutch cables snapped other than they are probably rubbing against something causing stress to the metal threads. Other than that, bike running very nicely specially after getting the Beetle map installed recently. Really love the bike.
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In the past five years? None, other than the flood damage to the T. The Mille has been trouble free since I bought her.
In the early days I did a lot of sorting on the T. Electrical problems solved with installation of a 20-amp stator from a T3, handling with T3 fork dampers and Konis, clutch cable issue with the simple lever-pivot kit (thank you, Curtis!), startus interruptus with a cleaned-up Bosch motor and my own wiring to bypass the ignition switch, and finally top end with Gilardonis, new timing chain and tensioner and shifter-spring replacement.
After that it was just repair after encounters with a 90-year-old Cadillac driver and the distracted pilot of an SUV.
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CX 100, bought w/ 24K miles
First year, 'bout 10K miles.
Front faring bracket failed
U joint completely failed (got me home with some creative riding.)
Clutch plate failed replaced w/ new + flywheel teeth were toast so replaced same
Bearing on the output shaft of the transmission failed due to the cage (fiber) started to disintegrate
throw out bearing replaced (toast)
rear main seal failed (huge leak)
front main seal failed (leaking)
bell housing breather leaked and had to be sealed
alternator rotor failed
front wheel bearings failed
both front brake calipers needed to be renewed due to leaking seals
Head light failed
taillight failed
rear brake master cylinder failed
Speedometer trip odometer failed (bought new one)
carbs (both) needed to be rebuilt.
fuel tank started leaking (replaced) Old damage repaired by previous owner w/ fiber glass patch
Dyna ignition main box failed
front forks needed to be rebuilt.
rear shocks replaced (completely shot)
replaced the pan gasket due to leaking
2 clutch cables
throttle cables
Other than the above its been bullet proof!
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CX 100, bought w/ 24K miles
First year, 'bout 10K miles.
Front faring bracket failed
U joint completely failed (got me home with some creative riding.)
Clutch plate failed replaced w/ new + flywheel teeth were toast so replaced same
Bearing on the output shaft of the transmission failed due to the cage (fiber) started to disintegrate
throw out bearing replaced (toast)
rear main seal failed (huge leak)
front main seal failed (leaking)
bell housing breather leaked and had to be sealed
alternator rotor failed
front wheel bearings failed
both front brake calipers needed to be renewed due to leaking seals
Head light failed
taillight failed
rear brake master cylinder failed
Speedometer trip odometer failed (bought new one)
carbs (both) needed to be rebuilt.
fuel tank started leaking (replaced) Old damage repaired by previous owner w/ fiber glass patch
Dyna ignition main box failed
front forks needed to be rebuilt.
rear shocks replaced (completely shot)
replaced the pan gasket due to leaking
2 clutch cables
throttle cables
Other than the above its been bullet proof!
Funny Mike :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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The only problems I've had were ones I caused myself , can't fault Guzzi on any of them.
This.
and one snapped throttle cable (at the controls), still made it home. Dohh...wait, there was the hi/lo beam switch that acted up. repaired, $0.00.
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Dead lithium iron battery. Only riding the Guzzi 1000 miles in the 4 years I owned it probably contributed.
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Bought my first, and so far, only Guzzi last May, my 04 California Titanium.
Problems:
1. Leaking fuel hoses - replaced last winter.
2. Vacuum leak in charcoal can hoses - removed charcoal can last winter.
3. Battery died - replaced last winter.
4. Factory tune - reflashed with a Beetle map this spring.
5. Still waiting for something else to break...
So, other than 14 year old hoses and a 6 year old battery, my ONLY complaint was the factory tune.
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My 1st Guzzi was a new '09 1200 Sport. After 27 months and a little over 25K miles it had to go. It was a POS and had numerous mechanical problems not limited to but including a sheared valve adjuster bolt that left me stranded 800 miles from home. Yep, a known issue with a small number of units.... arrrggggg!! Then came the electrical gremlins, no starts, intermittent black out of the instrument cluster, then total failure of the cluster. With no competent dealers in the area and the expired warranty it had to.
I did it again in September of '17 when I purchased a V7 III from Hamlin Cycle in Ct. with a plan to ride it home to Fl. On my way home, with only about 1300 miles on the odo, the POS OEM fuel filer failed leaving me stranded at roadside on the interstate in Pa. The nice folks at Hamlin Cycle made an overnight trip to fetch me and the bike, return us to the shop and replace the OEM filter with a proper all metal filter... at NO CHARGE!!! Nice folks the are at Hamlin Cycle... :thumb:
Guzzi needs to up thier game when it come to reliability. They also need more dealer with the level of commitment to the marque that Hamlin Cycle showed me.
Paul