Author Topic: Wood in my engine (Read 18103 times)

Kiwi_Roy · « **Reply #60 on:** October 31, 2018, 09:52:18 AM »

Quote from: Ncdan on October 31, 2018, 07:53:19 AM

I know this is outside the box but a possible.
A Violyn builder and repair person has tools especially designed to place a sound post (!small wooden Dow rod) inside the instrument through a small hole. He will use a special light on a flexible stem and tools with several angles and a sharpened special designed point to secure the Dow. Just a possibility. Good luck.

You can get him to do a tune up at the same time

yogidozer · « **Reply #61 on:** October 31, 2018, 10:04:31 AM »

By Spring you'll have a forest in your garage.

PandionExpress · « **Reply #62 on:** October 31, 2018, 01:45:48 PM »

Waiting for a new oil sump gasket to arrive. Will provide an update soon.

Cheers,

malik · « **Reply #63 on:** October 31, 2018, 01:58:54 PM »

I, too, have broken the end of a chopstick in there - that's why I now prefer plastic drinking straws for the job. If (& when) they get pinched, it's no big deal. You CAN use a chopstick, but gingerly. It's the angle of the dangle that'll cause grief.

Luck, Pando - here's hoping your skewer just falls out.

Wildguzzi.com · « **Reply #63 on:** October 31, 2018, 01:58:54 PM »

Wayne Orwig · « **Reply #64 on:** October 31, 2018, 03:28:11 PM »

When you find TDC, take a bit of paint and mark the flywheel so it is easy to see. Never phart with jamming things in the cylinder again.

dguzzi · « **Reply #65 on:** October 31, 2018, 03:54:31 PM »

I have 2 cents to give. Another dowel same size with a needle stuck in the end. Jam it into the lost one and pull it out. Its like fishin. Whatever you do let us know!!

gearman · « **Reply #66 on:** October 31, 2018, 04:20:00 PM »

Quote from: John A on October 31, 2018, 09:42:20 AM

HELLO!!!! Ever heard of a device that doesn't have good enough resolution on pictures when away from base that does not have the resolution to observe some details? Get out in the world and maybe you can experience such strange things!GEEZE.

NO

John A · « **Reply #67 on:** October 31, 2018, 04:50:13 PM »

sorry I blew up like that, but I could not see the the arrow, that's why I wrote my response like I did, to cover both, thinking most would be clever enough that I wouldn't have to explain it further.

rodekyll · « **Reply #68 on:** October 31, 2018, 05:19:28 PM »

I got another one -- get a foot of hollow metal tube, with an ID larger than the dowel and an OD small enough to fit in the hole. Pack it with grease. Run it down the hole over the end of the dowel.

john fish · « **Reply #69 on:** November 01, 2018, 07:30:00 PM »

Quote from: dguzzi on October 31, 2018, 03:54:31 PM

I have 2 cents to give. Another dowel same size with a needle stuck in the end. Jam it into the lost one and pull it out. Its like fishin. Whatever you do let us know!!

Long drill bit?

And, yeah, I've done much dumber things. Probably today.

Bill Owens · « **Reply #70 on:** November 01, 2018, 09:30:49 PM »

How about a shop vac with 1/2 inch pipe ducted to end of hose.

Muzz · « **Reply #71 on:** November 01, 2018, 10:09:26 PM »

Quote from: Kiwi_Roy on October 31, 2018, 09:52:18 AM

You can get him to do a tune up at the same time

Priceless!!!!!

Kiwi Dave · « **Reply #72 on:** November 02, 2018, 01:27:28 AM »

Quote from: Frenchfrog on October 30, 2018, 08:52:10 AM

If the stick is in the cylinder then I can't fathom how you would get it out by removing the sump but I'm allways open to learning !

Me too!

Kev m · « **Reply #73 on:** November 02, 2018, 07:00:45 AM »

Quote from: rodekyll on October 30, 2018, 01:43:46 PM

This isn't a huge deal. I've generally got the alternator cover off when I do the valves, to get at the crank nut. I decided to mark TDC for both sides on the alternator, using white witness paint. Now I put nothing down the spark plug holes. I just get the index marks lined up with the valves relaxed and go about my business.

Me too, though to be clear I always pull the spark plugs to release engine compression too.

Muzz · « **Reply #74 on:** November 02, 2018, 02:53:55 PM »

Quote from: Kev m on November 02, 2018, 07:00:45 AM

Me too, though to be clear I always pull the spark plugs to release engine compression too.

I just assumed everyone would do that. Maybe they don't.

Kev m · « **Reply #75 on:** November 02, 2018, 03:15:27 PM »

Quote from: Muzz on November 02, 2018, 02:53:55 PM

I just assumed everyone would do that. Maybe they don't.

I think threads like this teach us not to assume!

TimmyTheHog · « **Reply #76 on:** November 02, 2018, 03:58:47 PM »

Quote from: Kev m on November 02, 2018, 03:15:27 PM

I think threads like this teach us not to assume!

They can TRY to turn the engine without the plug off...go ahead, you won't get too far...

as for assume....You assume, you will make an ASS out of U & ME

Huzo · « **Reply #77 on:** November 02, 2018, 04:05:42 PM »

In Australia there's a term used in common vernacular as " giving it some stick"..
It's wheeled out when you are suggesting that the operator avail him (or her) self, of what the upper end of the performance spectrum has to offer, as in thrash the guts out of it.
Anyway..
I might retire that one, it doesn't seem as funny any more.
BTW. Have you considered changing your name to Panadol Express...?

John A · « **Reply #78 on:** November 03, 2018, 09:59:34 AM »

IN Wisconsin, it's "Give 'er cobs" , meaning to stoke the boiler with corn cobs for a quick heat, producing instant power

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #79 on:** November 03, 2018, 10:13:21 AM »

Quote from: John A on November 03, 2018, 09:59:34 AM

IN Wisconsin, it's "Give 'er cobs" , meaning to stoke the boiler with corn cobs for a quick heat, producing instant power

Never have heard that one..

We have "Balls out.." for the governor balls on a steam engine being out from centrifugal force.

redrider90 · « **Reply #80 on:** November 03, 2018, 01:40:34 PM »

I bring my flywheel around using the rear wheel. As I see TDC "D" coming around on compression stroke I then use a flat head screwdriver and gently move the flywheel with the screwdriver. Gotta us TDC after intake closes and engine is on compression stroke. I made the mistake of setting my valves on the "other" TDC and ended up with clacking loose valves. It ain't the same TDC. I started it and it sounded like it was coming apart the valve lash was that loose. I was lucky the the push rods didn't slide off the valve cam and do damage.

Bulldog9 · « **Reply #81 on:** November 03, 2018, 05:32:27 PM »

Lots of chatter.......... did the OP resolve the issue? confirm he dropped the skewer in the oil drain hole, drop the sump to find it? Or are people just rambling with basic BS?

Muzz · « **Reply #82 on:** November 03, 2018, 06:21:12 PM »

Quote from: Bulldog9 on November 03, 2018, 05:32:27 PM

Or are people just rambling with basic BS?

Probably.... while

for the OP to tell us whether he succeeded.

John A · « **Reply #83 on:** November 03, 2018, 06:40:37 PM »

The easy way to get that sucker out is to take out the dipstick and fill the sump with acetylene and oxygen. Then lite it off, the momentary increase in pressure will make the stick pop right out, easy as you please.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #84 on:** November 03, 2018, 06:41:22 PM »

Quote from: Muzz on November 03, 2018, 06:21:12 PM

Probably.... while for the OP to tell us whether he succeeded.

Said he ordered the pan gasket the other day. Shirley, he didn't order it from a dealer or something.. (?) That might take 6 weeks.

LowRyter · « **Reply #85 on:** November 03, 2018, 07:16:03 PM »

good luck with the chopstick.

For service you have to drop the pan and to remove oil filter. And order the gaskets mail order, you'll likely need them, sump and valve covers.

Best way to find TDC is by checking the timing marks on the fly wheel and rotating the alternator under the front cover. Here's a hint, once you find the D mark on the flywheel, mark the alternator at 12 o'clock with a marker. That way you'll quickly know when you are at TDC on the right side. If the valve is tight, then you're on exhaust stroke so take it another 360 and do the above. Then rotate a complete turn and then to the 3 o'clock position and you're TDC on S side.

redrider90 · « **Reply #86 on:** November 03, 2018, 10:27:57 PM »

Quote from: Chuck in Indiana on November 03, 2018, 06:41:22 PM

Said he ordered the pan gasket the other day. Shirley, he didn't order it from a dealer or something.. (?) That might take 6 weeks.

Maybe I am crazy and lucky but I have reused pan gaskets many times over without a drop of oil seeping out.

normzone · « **Reply #87 on:** November 04, 2018, 01:10:55 AM »

Quote from: rodekyll on October 31, 2018, 05:19:28 PM

I got another one -- get a foot of hollow metal tube, with an ID larger than the dowel and an OD small enough to fit in the hole. Pack it with grease. Run it down the hole over the end of the dowel.

Hydraulic engineering at it's finest ...

chuck peterson · « **Reply #88 on:** November 04, 2018, 07:49:37 AM »

Quote from: Chuck in Indiana on November 03, 2018, 10:13:21 AM

Never have heard that one.. We have "Balls out.." for the governor balls on a steam engine being out from centrifugal force.

Pre computers....sailin g transport vessels had compasses that were adjusted to the magnetism surrounding them on the boat to give correct readings by adjusting two huge metal balls 180 degrees apart surrounding the compass. These corrected for any magnetism the boat was putting out.

"Don't touch the navigators balls...." Once the compass was compensated

FYI....that's also why those little handlebar compasses rarely tell the truth...they are being overwhelmed by the metal in the bike...

Today there is an app for that and sailing compasses are found in antique shops.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #89 on:** November 04, 2018, 08:36:09 AM »

Then there is "cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.."

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