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Title: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: Tom on April 25, 2021, 04:29:10 PM
AKA Confederate Motorcycles before.  $155,000 and it's still ugly.  IMO.   :grin: :grin: :grin:

https://www.motorcyclistonline.com/story/news/2021-combat-motors-wraith-power-cruiser-preview/?utm_source=internal&utm_medium=email&tp=i-1NGB-Et-UMU-1JDm8r-1c-4oLL-1c-1JDxPT-l5yzX8JJmk-iIUsD
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: s1120 on April 25, 2021, 05:28:14 PM
Engine looks cool...  I see its a S&S..  Anyone know if its based on anything, or just their own design? Im used to seeing them offer the custom HD stuff.
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: jumpmaster on April 26, 2021, 06:55:47 PM
The perfect gift for the poser who has way too much of everything except brains or common sense.  As a one-off design exercise, I think it is interesting.  As something to buy - see first sentence.
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: Caffeineo on April 26, 2021, 07:09:38 PM
Even if I won the lottery it would not make my garage. But I am sure there are some who like it.
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Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: Solorider73 on April 26, 2021, 07:41:02 PM
That is one ugly bike.  I'm not sure why anyone would want a bike like this.
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: EldoMike on April 26, 2021, 07:58:59 PM
Engine looks cool...  I see its a S&S..  Anyone know if its based on anything, or just their own design? Im used to seeing them offer the custom HD stuff.

Their design...they call it the Wedge
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: Perazzimx14 on April 26, 2021, 08:42:09 PM
At least they are trying different stuff. The Guzzi's stagnation model releasing the same old bike with bold new colors is as boring as a bowl of cornflakes.
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: s1120 on April 27, 2021, 04:13:58 AM
The perfect gift for the poser who has way too much of everything except brains or common sense.  As a one-off design exercise, I think it is interesting.  As something to buy - see first sentence.

Ya, no way I would own it even if I could..  Someone wants to toss me the keys, and Ill ride it though!! 
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on April 27, 2021, 06:07:03 AM
$10k to anodize the frame & fork. That tells you all you need to know. A dumb concept wrapped up in an ugly package with a big $150k dollar pricetag as a bow. Ridiculous. Needs 200% more skulls. Lol 'Combat Motors' what a joke. Motorcycling is a fun diversion hobby ~or~ a utilitarian tool for simple and cost effective transportation. Rolling up to a bike show on your COMBAT motorcycle in your tacticool urban camo riding gear is the height of lame.
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: guzziart on April 27, 2021, 06:32:13 AM
Waaaay too impractical for me and my wallet.
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: bassa99 on April 27, 2021, 04:38:02 PM
I am a Confederate owner. I stopped dead in my tracks when i saw one for the first time, had to have one. I would not even look twice at their bikes now. Matt Chambers and his design team must be fans of the Tron movies.  My bike is a2001 Hellcat fast and great handling machine.
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: poorBob on April 27, 2021, 06:17:28 PM
The pre-modern era girder front end reeks of the same designer - he calls himself an engineer - who "did" the Motus. The same guy who cut part of his hand off with a band saw.

I wonder if the hydraulic clutch line is routed so close to the cylinders that it boils the clutch fluid ala Motus. That would necessitate a clutch bleed before every ride also ala Motus.

Beware of poorly engineered, hyper-expensive "designer" motorcycles.
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: DesertPilot on April 27, 2021, 06:59:59 PM
According to the page, "The new 2021 Combat Wraith will have a limited run of no more than 21 units."

Whew!  Though that may still be 21 units too many... 
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: JJ on April 27, 2021, 07:06:10 PM
Take a real good look......Go for a long 700-800 mile day on that?!?  (I think not...) :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :shocked: :shocked: :huh:  Also, a ridiculous "silly" price (IMHO) @ $155,000... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :shocked: :shocked: :huh: :huh:


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Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: Turin on April 27, 2021, 08:17:28 PM
what caught my attention was the 560 lb curb weight with BST carbon fiber wheels.
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: oldbike54 on April 27, 2021, 10:32:17 PM
 We probably aren't their target market  :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: jumpmaster on April 27, 2021, 10:35:58 PM
According to the page, "The new 2021 Combat Wraith will have a limited run of no more than 21 units."

Whew!  Though that may still be 21 units too many...

The saddest thing is that I predict that all 21 will be sold, if they haven't been already.
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: Turin on April 28, 2021, 01:07:49 AM
As they say, the cheapest thing on a Guzzi is the rider.
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: lucky phil on April 28, 2021, 02:58:35 AM
Take a real good look......Go for a long 700-800 mile day on that?!?  (I think not...) :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :shocked: :shocked: :huh:  Also, a ridiculous "silly" price (IMHO) @ $155,000... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :shocked: :shocked: :huh: :huh:


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You all miss the point. It was never built to actually ride. It's a wealthy persons statement " look at me I can drop 155K on a pointless next to un-rideable motorcycle"  OCC with some "engineering"

Ciao   
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: JJ on April 28, 2021, 09:01:48 AM
You all miss the point. It was never built to actually ride. It's a wealthy persons statement " look at me I can drop 155K on a pointless next to un-rideable motorcycle"  OCC with some "engineering"

Ciao

Yes, you are right, lucky phil...I missed the point... :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh: 

Imagine if someone gave you $155,000 and said: 

Go ahead, buy a motorcycle or three that you really like!!
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: Perazzimx14 on April 28, 2021, 09:19:17 AM
Yes, you are right, lucky phil...I missed the point... :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh: 

Imagine if someone gave you $155,000 and said: 

Go ahead, buy a motorcycle or three that you really like!!

But if someone "gave" you $155,000 to spend on a motorcycle how much did you pay for it?



Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: TN Mark on April 28, 2021, 03:44:57 PM
We probably aren't their target market  :laugh:

 Dusty

This, 100%. Is there a place for understatement of the month entries? If so, please put Dusty's entry up for consideration.
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: bigbikerrick on April 28, 2021, 04:10:05 PM
I thought Confederate had changed their name to Curtis Motorcycles.... It is ugly, but in a badass sorta way! :grin:
Rick
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: Griso8V on April 28, 2021, 05:08:14 PM
Man is it ugly!  And looks to be very impractical as well. 
Tony
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: lucky phil on April 28, 2021, 07:12:19 PM
Yes, you are right, lucky phil...I missed the point... :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh: 

Imagine if someone gave you $155,000 and said: 

Go ahead, buy a motorcycle or three that you really like!!

Sorry, not actually aimed at you personally. If I was given $155kUS and had to spend it on bike/s that thing wouldn't even make the long list. Nor would any perceived "classic" bikes which are totally overvalued these days. I'd go for a few modern classics which will hold their value and or improve and are light years better engineering and better as a motorcycle in every respect.

Ciao
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: Seventy One on April 28, 2021, 09:59:56 PM
For that kind of money it should have 3 or 4 engines and at least two hacks.

Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: Tkelly on April 30, 2021, 08:58:47 AM
Good to see SS ,a Wisconsin CO still in business.
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: Zoom Zoom on May 01, 2021, 08:22:31 AM
Ugly!

Wouldn't want it if it were free.

John Henry
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: twowheeladdict on May 01, 2021, 08:47:34 AM
This forum wouldn’t exist without something to hate to make one feel better about their life choices.  :weiner:
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: jumpmaster on May 01, 2021, 08:55:11 AM
This forum wouldn’t exist without something to hate to make one feel better about their life choices.  :weiner:



And that's a problem because...?   :smiley:
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: twowheeladdict on May 01, 2021, 11:46:48 AM



And that's a problem because...?   :smiley:

Did I say it was a problem?  Just an observation. Don’t dish if you can’t take.
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: oldbike54 on May 01, 2021, 11:51:43 AM
 This is where I step in and say chill out fellas . If you want to fight over nonsense take it somewhere else . Capeesh ?

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: berniebee on May 01, 2021, 01:52:00 PM
Wow! 145 horsepower from 2.1L  That sure beats my 2008 Hyundai Elantra- only 138 HP , mind you it's a little smaller at 2.0L.   :evil:
And yup, to my eye everything but the engine is, er , aesthetically challenged.

But here's hoping that Combat will release a Wombat model  or a Tomcat or more appropriately for the target demographic, a Fatcat.
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: oranges3 on May 02, 2021, 08:00:29 AM
I am a Confederate owner. I stopped dead in my tracks when i saw one for the first time, had to have one. I would not even look twice at their bikes now. Matt Chambers and his design team must be fans of the Tron movies.  My bike is a2001 Hellcat fast and great handling machine.
W
i own a 1999 gt
Fun bike... looks amazing 20 plus years later
Imagjne a cruiser with great brakes and suspension...
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: twowheeladdict on May 02, 2021, 09:57:42 AM

Imagjne a cruiser with great brakes and suspension...

That would be the Vulcan Meanstreak I owned for 7 years.  Sportbike wheels and tires,  USD forks.  Two disks with sport bike calipers up front.  Mine was an '07 purchased for $6300 OTD in '09.

 
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Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: nortryder on May 03, 2021, 09:35:43 PM
I thought Confederate had changed their name to Curtis Motorcycles.... It is ugly, but in a badass sorta way! :grin:
Rick

It's ugly in a dumbass sort of way.
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: Turin on May 03, 2021, 11:45:58 PM
If I were handed the keys, I'd take it for a ride. It could be fantastic.
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: Huzo on May 04, 2021, 02:28:45 AM
It’s a Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Jay Leno toss fest type thing.
Who’s innocent of that crime ? I don’t see it as any uglier than some of the “custom” pus, foisted on a clamouring audience made up of Guzzi fringe dwellers.
To be honest, it looks like you could actually ride the bastard somewhere....
Title: Re: 2021 Combat Motors Wraith Power Cruiser
Post by: Huzo on May 04, 2021, 02:37:46 AM
Take a real good look......Go for a long 700-800 mile day on that?!?  (I think not...) :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :shocked: :shocked: :huh:  Also, a ridiculous "silly" price (IMHO) @ $155,000... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :shocked: :shocked: :huh: :huh:


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They wouldn’t sell unless the price WAS silly.
Back in a previous life, I used to make good money part time in venues involving a stage and a mic.
The owner of the equipment told me to double my price and I would get more work, so I did and I did. If you gouge people who are forming an opinion in their minds as to how good you are, they will think you’re worth having if you’re expensive.
This thing is the same, it’s never been about the bike, it’s a symbol of your status... If a Desmosedici Ducati was 20,000 Australian dollars, it would not be as desirable to the Casey Stoner wannabes.