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newbie questions here:- are 2 valve motors preferable to 4 valve motors or vice versa? Some prefer the 2v motor's power delivery and, compared to the flat tappet models the reliability of the 2v is certainly better. I don't see any advantage of the 2v to a rollered 4v however (caveat I have an 4v).- when did roller followers become standard? Mid 2012.- both of these appear to be 4 valve heads to me, what is the visual tip off?https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/mcd/d/cincinnati-2012-moto-guzzi-griso-w12k/7006987517.htmlhttps://cleveland.craigslist.org/mcy/d/rochester-2016-moto-guzzi-griso-se/7009148230.html Both are 4v heads. The easy tip off are the model/paint schemes but you can always tell by the valve covers or the color of the CARC. Just google the pictures and look at those.- at what price would each be considered a good buy? Subjective, but given you can find rollered 8v's (mid 2012 and up) in the $5k to $7k range and that really puts downward pressure on all earlier bikes save the Tenni SE's since there's a soft spot for that model. great looking bikes, only downside for me (that I am cognizant of, that might be a clue to my extent of knowledge) would be weight.thanks in advance for the education.
A nice 2012 Tenni Griso is available locally . 11K miles and apparently no tappet problems as per local Guzzi dealer as of last service. Is still worth purchasing and then taking the plunge and rollerizing it ? . I have no idea what would that add to overall cost or which kit would it take and its actual cost or special tools required. Any light shed on the subject would be greatly appreciated
I saved a Tenni SE and I'm glad I did it, but I was looking for a black devil and just couldn't find one as they aren't the most common motorcycle out there. If you want the green then you will have to go through the rollers to get there; I've never seen a green one that wasn't a flattie and you won't find many (if any) converted used ones out there. The conversion cost me $500 and about a month going the dealer route if you can still get the parts supplied by MG.
There is a Tenni on Copart right now in Portland: https://www.copart.com/lot/46122009
My 8V went almost 40,000 miles before conversion; upon disassembly, the tappet surfaces were very discolored but no material missing. It was close to failing. If I had ANY unconverted 8V at any mileage, I'd do the conversion NOW.In my case (a 2009) the dealer had to work hard to get Moto Guzzi to send the appropriate kit on Guzzi's nickel. Take out the tappets, photograph them, put together a service history (partly the original out-of-business selling dealer, partly my maintenance log, partly their maintenance log) and still got an argument from Guzzi. If the dealer hadn't been totally on my side or hadn't persisted, they wouldn't have gotten the $1500 kit. But they did, and after 7.5 hours labor ($800) including a new map download and a centerstand recall, the bike has been great for 14,000 miles.So I'd probably go for the bike with a price discounted about $2300 from a roller version, and MAYBE you can still get Guzzi to spring for the roller kit and get partially well on the deal. The seller obviously isn't willing to take that action, take the hassle, argue with Guzzi, and install the kit, so there ought not be any problem with getting the discount if YOU have to do all that .... !Lannis
newbie questions here:- are 2 valve motors preferable to 4 valve motors or vice versa?great looking bikes, only downside for me (that I am cognizant of, that might be a clue to my extent of knowledge) would be weight.
Amazing. I still think the Griso, especially in 8V format is right up there with the V7 Sport and 850 Le Mans in terms of its styling and appeal.why they didn't sell by the boatload is just beyond me?Pete
Nah. The fact you are hidebound by your conservatism means that you have little. Anything outside the box leaves you cold.That's fine.
That being the case stories of the V85 being the great white hope are proving to be dishonest at best. It’s not selling any better or worse than Guzzi’s of years gone by.