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I’m the softest bloke around when it comes to forgiving understandable errors, but they need you to tear them a new arse...!
It would be a huge oversight if the "jr" techs were not made 100% aware of the confusing terminology.I was just at a shop where 5 V7's were unloaded and fluids (gearbox and final drive) are dumped, measured, and corrected as necessary. That's a pro shop for you. And yes, the customer pays for PDI, and it's as thorough as can be. You can debate if it's necessary, it's the factory responsibility, any or all of it. These guys check it as it's the only way to KNOW.None of this "well, it's a factory fill, sorry your new bike is screwed, and it's a warrantee claim" stuff.
In your original post you refer to "they". They being the factory incorrectly filled the transmission and read dif, and the dealer didn't catch it? As Guzzisteve mentioned, other than sticking something in there looking for a sign of fluid, I would doubt any dealer would actually drain, measure, then refill.
Okay, you are correct. I went back and re-read his post.ThanksJohn Henry
Don't get me wrong, someone like him is an absolute exception to the rule. I bet there are very few others that do that, even some of the "good" ones. It's just not something that should reasonably be necessary.
Kev, you're absolutely right. The fact that he does it to doublecheck the factory is telling.@Perrazzimx14, THE 1st service. Just because it was factory filled, doesn't mean it was filled right.
I kept my pre delivery certificate, it just says "Check all types of oil (engine, gearbox, transmission brake etc) so they just check to make sure the factory remembered to put some in, thats all you can expect I reckon I would have been really nervous if I thought the dealer was changing fluids and was real happy to see less than 2 km on the odometer.I'm sure the factory would have a fairly good method of squirting just the required amount in in seconds flat.A tip when you are changing the oils, take the drain plug out first, the oil comes out quite slowly, then take the fill plug out, this keeps the discharge rate to a minimum until you have your hands/tools out of the way.
ALWAYS take the fill plug out 1st. If you remove the drain plug 1st then strip of otherwise eff up the fill plug trying to remove you cannot refill with oil. At a bare minimum break the fill plug loose 1st before moving the the drain plug.
That's pretty strange logic Try it my way once, you won't go back.
Oh goodie, a drain/fill plug debate. Much more entertaining than a tire or oil debate.If a fill plug became damaged, or the threads in the housing, you're probably not going anywhere anyway until it is resolved, right? Just sayin'. John Henry
Don't feel like the Lone Ranger. The OWNER of the shop where I purchased my first 1400 was the same guy that serviced it. When I picked it up, he told me that he wasn't really sure how to check the oil on this bike. I had to trailer it home because I couldn't get a ride to the dealer. So I got home, drained out an extra quart and a half.Rode the bike around most of the day, and then rechecked the oil level. It was right at the fill mark. I brought that quart and a half back to the dealer the next day, just in case they "shorted" someone else. His response was "I told you that I wasn't sure how to check the oil on that bike".
More often than not is the damage is to the head of plug and will strip so its not even removed from the housing. Or its corroded in place and cannot be removed. In either instance that's the problem. The plug is blocking the fill hole you cannot get oil in.
Only if you drained it before you were sure you could refill it.I mean long term it's still something you need to deal with, but if you've drained it, you need to deal with it RIGHT THEN AND THERE, not a few months down the line.
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