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2016 Stone starter problem
« on: August 03, 2022, 02:46:46 PM »
The starter on my 2016 V7 II  spins rapidly but does not engage. Any suggestions??

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Re: 2016 Stone starter problem
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2022, 04:11:56 PM »
The starter on my 2016 V7 II  spins rapidly but does not engage. Any suggestions??

Time to pull the starter and check for crankshaft end play. Some of us 2016 V-2 owners are just lucky that way..  :evil:  It would not hurt to pull the starter, and check it off the rig anyway.. 

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Re: 2016 Stone starter problem
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2022, 12:34:43 AM »
The starter on my 2016 V7 II  spins rapidly but does not engage. Any suggestions??

If it spins then the solenoid is working.  I would pull the starter motor and check just why the starter drive gear is not engaging on the ring gear.  It could range from costing you nothing except a cleanup to being quite expensive, and I am not sure you would know until you pull it and then check the operation. May be the pivot pin has sheared.

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Re: 2016 Stone starter problem
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2022, 07:58:33 AM »
Thanks to Brand X & MUZZ for responding to my inquiry. Since the bike has 13,000 miles on it I believe that the needed thrust washer is in place.  I removed the starter and found no obvious problems. After reinstalling the starter I could hear the pinion gear trying to engage the flywheel followed by the starter spinning freely. This made me think that perhaps the solenoid was not strong enough to keep the gear engaged. A new starter has been ordered.  Thanks again. :smiley:

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Re: 2016 Stone starter problem
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2022, 07:58:33 AM »

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Re: 2016 Stone starter problem
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2022, 12:48:38 PM »
New starter installed this morning and all good.

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Re: 2016 Stone starter problem
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2022, 10:35:47 PM »
 :thumb:

I like it when a plan comes together. :grin:
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Re: 2016 Stone starter problem
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2022, 09:21:18 AM »
I am still waiting on my crank issue on my 2016 Stonello. Guzzi is going to maybe deal with it, if the shop ever looks at it.. I bought a 4400 mile engine for plan B on this unit.. Glad yours was just a starter,but you never know on a 2016 model year..One bike you buy with the more miles on it the better.. :grin:

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Re: 2016 Stone starter problem
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2022, 01:14:57 PM »
Thanks to Brand X & MUZZ for responding to my inquiry. Since the bike has 13,000 miles on it I believe that the needed thrust washer is in place.  I removed the starter and found no obvious problems. After reinstalling the starter I could hear the pinion gear trying to engage the flywheel followed by the starter spinning freely. This made me think that perhaps the solenoid was not strong enough to keep the gear engaged. A new starter has been ordered.  Thanks again. :smiley:

Where did you order it from, and how much it costs? if you don't mind.
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Re: 2016 Stone starter problem
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2022, 03:47:57 PM »
Where did you order it from, and how much it costs? if you don't mind.
Ordered from DB Electrical in Knoxville TN for $83.52. Their database did not have a listing for a 2016 Stone II but did show multi applications for Moto Guzzi. Numbers were:0307307110, 14730706, 30730710, 30730711, & 410-40034. I figured that with that many applications I'd take  a chance and order it. Good result. A perfect fit!

Their Tel number is 800-753-2242. Also an extensive website at dbelectrical.com.

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Re: 2016 Stone starter problem
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2022, 08:58:06 AM »
At that price I assume it is another "made in china" starter.
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Re: 2016 Stone starter problem
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2022, 12:59:07 PM »
At that price I assume it is another "made in china" starter.

Yes-"Made in China" as was the original when the bike was delivered.

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Re: 2016 Stone starter problem
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2022, 03:07:48 PM »
Original Valeo's were made by French and failed because of the glue for the magnets.  Bad manufacturing application.  Same problem for Beemer's at the time.  :tongue: 

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