Author Topic: Really Poor Gear Ratings / CE in the USA - why the inconsistencies ?  (Read 3917 times)

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Re: Really Poor Gear Ratings / CE in the USA - why the inconsistencies ?
« Reply #60 on: June 14, 2024, 06:24:54 AM »
One of the byproducts of our rush to internet retail is the absence of actual stores.  Another is going to the few existing stores, trying on all of their products, asking lots of questions and then buying online to save a few bucks ( go ahead and flame me, but you know its true).  I think the chance to see and handle the merchandise before purchase gives people a better chance to consider things like ankle protection.  A premium set of boots is not a trivial expense, nor is it a trivial matter if they have to be put to the test.  Also, to work well, fit is very important and once again without the chance to test fit, your potential safety under use is limited.  I think you can do just as much damage if your foot and ankle are flopping around inside of a too large boot as if you are wearing a boot with inferior protection. 
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Re: Really Poor Gear Ratings / CE in the USA - why the inconsistencies ?
« Reply #61 on: June 14, 2024, 07:00:54 AM »
One of the byproducts of our rush to internet retail is the absence of actual stores.  Another is going to the few existing stores, trying on all of their products, asking lots of questions and then buying online to save a few bucks ( go ahead and flame me, but you know its true).  I think the chance to see and handle the merchandise before purchase gives people a better chance to consider things like ankle protection.  A premium set of boots is not a trivial expense, nor is it a trivial matter if they have to be put to the test.  Also, to work well, fit is very important and once again without the chance to test fit, your potential safety under use is limited.  I think you can do just as much damage if your foot and ankle are flopping around inside of a too large boot as if you are wearing a boot with inferior protection.

For those who can't get to physical stores there are a lot of opportunities to educate yourself on products.  Motorcycle gear.com is very forthcoming on their take on protection comparison.  Revzilla provides detailed information.  Webbikeworld provides great information. 

All the online retailers I have dealt with have easy exchange processes.

I have been to Iron Pony a few times in Columbus OH.  Cycle Gear is now tied to Revzilla so they can get anything into the store.

You don't have to go through.all of the above to see the difference in a lot of gear. 

Here is the alpinestar faster 3.




Here is the Alpinestar Tech 10.




Which boot is going to provide more protection when you let a bike fall on your foot?

No one chooses the faster 3 thinking it is going to provide optimum protection.  They choose it for comfort and off bike walking.  They compromise between protection and everyday usability.

Blaming the gear or the manufacturer is a cop out and what is so prevalent in our society, "playing the victim". 

These are my compromise boots.




And my touring boots




Both are still a compromise in protection, but aren't sneakers with a little extra slide protection.  The OP needs to grow a pair and own up to his poor choice in gear and overriding his abilities.  He talks about data but look what he chose among all the offerings.
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Re: Really Poor Gear Ratings / CE in the USA - why the inconsistencies ?
« Reply #62 on: June 14, 2024, 07:16:14 AM »
I read the first sentence of the first post as someone saying I'd like to get better equipment and I'm finding the standards and descriptions of what's available to be poor and that consumers should demand better. Shocking people made that personal.

I've learned a lot from this thread. Things in didn't know. What's intuitively obvious to what seems like the angriest of you was not to me. Heck I didn't even know there were safety standards for boots. I guess maybe I should re-evaluate my thick leather Cruiser Works boots. All this time I thought they were pretty good. Maybe not.

But most of all I reminded myself of why I don't go to Moto Guzzi rallies.

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Re: Really Poor Gear Ratings / CE in the USA - why the inconsistencies ?
« Reply #63 on: June 14, 2024, 04:31:54 PM »
Many years ago, I was friends with a Harley rider that would routinely ride wearing shorts and sandals! :shocked:  One year at Daytona Bike Week, we stood in a long line at the Harley demo rides (that shows you how long ago this was, no waiting now!) When he got to the front of the line, he was refused because he was wearing open-toed shoes.  He pitched a fit and stomped off.  Of course, if he had bothered to read the ride requirements signs posted all over, he would have realized he would be allowed to demo a bike dressed the way he was. Everyone makes their own decisions concerning the risks of riding.  Many, like my old friend, simply refuse to think it will ever happen to them. 

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Re: Really Poor Gear Ratings / CE in the USA - why the inconsistencies ?
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Re: Really Poor Gear Ratings / CE in the USA - why the inconsistencies ?
« Reply #64 on: June 14, 2024, 05:07:15 PM »
Everything is good until it isn't.
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Re: Really Poor Gear Ratings / CE in the USA - why the inconsistencies ?
« Reply #65 on: June 15, 2024, 07:20:55 PM »
I'd forgotten entirely about this website that evaluates riding gear: 
https://www.motocap.com.au/

Worth a look.

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Re: Really Poor Gear Ratings / CE in the USA - why the inconsistencies ?
« Reply #66 on: June 16, 2024, 08:47:41 PM »
I am in before the lock
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