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Title: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: ossaman55 on July 28, 2020, 07:06:48 PM

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Hey guys, my dad had his convert and a Ducati 900 ss/sp stolen from his garage in Tennessee. They are both pretty distinctive, especially the convert. Its got red/white sp bodywork and a rifle fairing. Also has monbloc calipers off an r1 on the front. The 900ss is yellow with lots of mods. Ill get some pics. If you guys see a convert for sale with that description please let me know. Both bikes have lots of sentimental value.
Thanks
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: Guzzistajohn on July 28, 2020, 07:10:19 PM
Steal a Convert? That has to be one for CSI. Has to be a 1st! Wouldn't think a thief would even give one a 2nd look. Hope he finds it!
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: cliffrod on July 28, 2020, 07:19:53 PM
Location?  It's a long way from Bristol to Memphis and might impact which direction a thief might go.
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: ossaman55 on July 28, 2020, 07:23:57 PM
Tullahoma, about an hour south west of nashville
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: Guzzistajohn on July 28, 2020, 07:24:20 PM
A buddy with a SPII was riding back from Sturgis with a dood on a harley that went to great lengths to lock the bike up at the hotel. Got up in the morning, Harley Gone-SPII still had the key in the ignition  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: oldbike54 on July 28, 2020, 07:33:09 PM
 Wasn't it Greg Fields who had a 'Vert stolen out of his yard in Seattle ?

 We wil keep an eye out .

 Dusty
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: ossaman55 on July 28, 2020, 07:37:58 PM
Thanks guys I appreciate it. I figured if there was a convert for sale anywhere you guys would know. Hereís a pic of the duc. Still looking for a pic of the convert.
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Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: twowheeladdict on July 28, 2020, 07:40:41 PM
Tullahoma, about an hour south west of nashville

Iím not far from Tullahoma.   

Were the bikes stolen as part of someone stealing all the contents of the garage, or were just the bikes stolen?  Makes a difference on what they might do with them. Meth heads could just chop them up and bring to that recycling center on the way to McMinnville.
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: ossaman55 on July 28, 2020, 07:50:18 PM
They took most of the garage contents. Tools, chainsaws, and the bikes. They left a 4 wheeler and some other assorted items. You are probably right, thatís kinda what I expect. Thereís a possibility that they could have been gone for a decent period of time. Iím not sure how long itís been since he was at the cabin last.
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: doslemans on July 28, 2020, 11:29:32 PM
Wow. I live near Tullahoma in Bedford county and have never seen those bikes. Thought I knew everyone in area with a Guzzi. Please let me know if I can be of assistance.
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: nc43bsa on July 29, 2020, 01:45:59 AM
What kind of cans are on the Ducati?

I'll ask at the local Euro shop in Chattanooga if they've seen either bike.
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: twowheeladdict on July 29, 2020, 05:28:56 AM
They took most of the garage contents. Tools, chainsaws, and the bikes. They left a 4 wheeler and some other assorted items. You are probably right, thatís kinda what I expect. Thereís a possibility that they could have been gone for a decent period of time. Iím not sure how long itís been since he was at the cabin last.

I'm always looking at the Nashville and Huntsville craigslist and I would definitely remember seeing that Ducati or any Moto Guzzi being listed. 

Surveillance cameras are the way to go for the future. 
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: huub on July 29, 2020, 06:02:56 AM
pretty amazing , i had my 750 NTX stolen last week, fortunately is was recovered by the police.
you would expect  having a 30 year old moto guzzi is enough reason not to worry about theft.
apparently with newer bikes being better secured ,  thieves must be getting pretty desperate..
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: Lannis on July 29, 2020, 06:16:11 AM
thieves must be getting pretty desperate..

They are ... just served on a grand jury, meth heads and oxy freaks are stealing anything, on camera, and either selling it by the weight of the metal or taking it to a pawn shop, getting their fix, and getting arrested right after ....

Lannis
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: Motormike on July 29, 2020, 07:32:09 AM
How did they get in? Side door, window? How was the garage secured?  Just a padlock?  I live in a rural part of Tennessee as well, meth-head burglaries are always a concern.
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: ossaman55 on July 29, 2020, 08:13:27 AM
How did they get in? Side door, window? How was the garage secured?  Just a padlock?  I live in a rural part of Tennessee as well, meth-head burglaries are always a concern.

They cut through a gate and a couple big padlocks. Im sure he will have cameras in the future. There may be a surveillance camera on the Rd that goes up the mountain. I sorta suspect that it was probably a neighbor that stole them. The house is in a pretty remote area and his is one of the few houses up there not occupied year round.
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: Groover on July 29, 2020, 08:22:50 AM
Hope you catch them. Do you know whom the camera up the road belongs to?
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: Ncdan on July 29, 2020, 08:35:19 AM
Thanks guys I appreciate it. I figured if there was a convert for sale anywhere you guys would know. Hereís a pic of the duc. Still looking for a pic of the convert.
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So if we see this bike being ridden had you rather have the  bike a little skinned up and the thief in custody?😂😂😂
Just funning, I sure hope yíall can get the bikes back, itís a feeling of total violation of ones self when this kind of thing happens to hard working good people. So sorry:(
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: TN Mark on July 29, 2020, 09:09:37 AM
Things like a SimplySafe or Ring camera security system is inexpensive and so very easy to install. Always add extra sirens as well. The SimplySafe phone app works great too. Every camera and the system can be accessed through your phone wherever you are. That certainly won't stop every thief, but at least they'll be recorded on camera and the sirens 'may' alert others or change the course of events.

These are not easy bikes to fence or to even part out.

Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: Gliderjohn on July 29, 2020, 10:36:17 AM
Trying to bring a bit of humor to this, I would kind of like to see the first attempts at riding the Convert. Why won't it shift? What is wrong with the clutch. What a weird bike, scratching head.
Best of luck on getting them back.
GliderJohn
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: twowheeladdict on July 29, 2020, 12:33:14 PM
They cut through a gate and a couple big padlocks. Im sure he will have cameras in the future. There may be a surveillance camera on the Rd that goes up the mountain. I sorta suspect that it was probably a neighbor that stole them. The house is in a pretty remote area and his is one of the few houses up there not occupied year round.

I'm confused when you say mountain, and Tullahoma together.  Unless you are saying his place is 30 miles east of Tullahoma in the Savage Gulf area. 
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: ossaman55 on July 29, 2020, 12:56:31 PM
His place is in Decherd TN. South of tullahoma.
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: Yeahoo Whoyah on July 29, 2020, 05:20:35 PM
Quote
like to see the first attempts at riding the Convert. Why won't it shift? What is wrong with the clutch. What a weird bike

+1  As I was reading this thread I thought the same thing.
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: JJ on July 29, 2020, 09:33:16 PM
It's a very sad commentary of the times....

Motorcycle thieves...and thieves in general...should be hung by the neck until dead...Good luck with your recovery...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83qxmqAI768
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: wymple on July 29, 2020, 09:39:36 PM
It's a very sad commentary of the times....Motorcycle thieves...and thieves in general...should be hung by the neck until dead...Good luck with your recovery...


Yes, hang the SOBs
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: mobiker on July 29, 2020, 10:26:04 PM
Things like a SimplySafe or Ring camera security system is inexpensive and so very easy to install. Always add extra sirens as well. The SimplySafe phone app works great too. Every camera and the system can be accessed through your phone wherever you are. That certainly won't stop every thief, but at least they'll be recorded on camera and the sirens 'may' alert others or change the course of events.

These are not easy bikes to fence or to even part out.
These won't work without a cell signal will they?
I have a place in TN and I get no cell signal there. Ossaman55: my place is over on the Cumberland Plateau, but I'll keep an I out when I'm down there. Lots of people know I'm into bikes so you never know.
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: bobrebos on July 30, 2020, 03:25:16 AM
Just sad times and crappy people in our world during these times.  My outlook for all of ours future is not a good one.  Crappy! 
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on July 31, 2020, 12:17:50 PM
Bike thieves should be hung with a motorcycle chain.  If it was a chainless bike just impale them like Vlad Tepes did.

A pain in the ass deserves a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: nc43bsa on November 12, 2020, 03:23:59 AM
Any news on this?
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: bigbikerrick on November 12, 2020, 12:21:21 PM
Trying to bring a bit of humor to this, I would kind of like to see the first attempts at riding the Convert. Why won't it shift? What is wrong with the clutch. What a weird bike, scratching head.
Best of luck on getting them back.
GliderJohn

Thats exactly what I was thinking, John.
Rick.
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: bigbikerrick on November 12, 2020, 12:24:21 PM
It would have been cool if one of the bikes had one of those GPS tracking thingies...anyone have any experience with those?
Rick.
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: Tom on November 12, 2020, 01:15:22 PM
I just saw something in the news about Ring cameras being recalled because of the potential for fire.  :shocked:
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: jwinwi on November 12, 2020, 02:22:28 PM
I just saw something in the news about Ring cameras being recalled because of the potential for fire.  :shocked:

Only if they are installed with the wrong screws which are too long and make contact with the battery. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: Tom on November 13, 2020, 01:29:05 PM
The company sold them with long screws that caused the problem???   :huh:
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: Bert Remington on November 13, 2020, 02:14:40 PM
WRT GPS tracker on motorcycle: the 3G models work in urban areas and the 4G models work in near urban areas.  If you want complete coverage get a SPOT Trace which uses Globalstar for reporting.
https://www.findmespot.com/en-ca/products-services/spot-trace
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: ossaman55 on November 14, 2020, 09:51:31 PM
He has installed a bunch of cellular cameras so he can watch from anywhere now. On a positive note, the 916 was found at a local impound lot just across the border in Alabama. Its been laid down but its mostly just a little road rash. The convert is still out there somewhere.
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: AH Fan on November 14, 2020, 11:26:18 PM
They are ... just served on a grand jury, meth heads and oxy freaks are stealing anything, on camera, and either selling it by the weight of the metal or taking it to a pawn shop, getting their fix, and getting arrested right after ....

Lannis


Pop a cap.......... save a bike...... all worth it.

Ciao
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: Ryan on November 15, 2020, 09:37:44 AM
It would have been cool if one of the bikes had one of those GPS tracking thingies...anyone have any experience with those?
Rick.

Years ago I worked for LoJack, and we sold a bunch, mostly to HD buyers. Later I worked at a MC dealer, and three guys came in to buy R6s all at the same time. One sprung for the LoJack. All three guys lived in the same apartment complex, all three were stollen the same night. Cops got the signal the next moring, busted the theft ring, recovered 6 or 7 bikes, including those three. Sold two more... They only worked in areas where the police had trackers, but they were very effective in those areas.
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: dguzzi on November 15, 2020, 03:29:45 PM
I wonder if running ads locally or on bulletin boards might get some movement.  "Wanted yellow Ducati, its my dream bike"  sort of thing.
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: twowheeladdict on November 16, 2020, 05:38:09 AM
He has installed a bunch of cellular cameras so he can watch from anywhere now. On a positive note, the 916 was found at a local impound lot just across the border in Alabama. Its been laid down but its mostly just a little road rash. The convert is still out there somewhere.

Good to hear.  Sounds like meth heads did the break in, otherwise that Ducati would have been out of the country by now. 
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: ossaman55 on December 17, 2020, 04:23:23 PM
So this situation has taken a bad turn. The Ducati was recovered in may after it was involved with a police chase in Alabama. The tow yard that picked up up didnít follow state law and add the vin to the Alabama abandoned vehicle register and notify the last titled owner. They told him he owed 6800 for storage fees. long story short the yard and local police say they have never heard of that law or care about it and the yard has told my dad they scrapped the bike. Anyone know a good lawyer in Alabama that would be willing to take this case on? The law is very clear and if they have in fact scrapped it it was done illegally without a lein or title.
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: SmithSwede on December 17, 2020, 04:59:13 PM
Iím not your lawyer and Iím not giving you legal advice.  Iím a random dude on the internet who doesnít know you. 

But it appears that Alabama Code 32, section 32-8-87(s)(4) permits a civil action for restitution.   The problem you likely have is thisówhat is the fair market value of an old, wrecked Ducati?  Unless there is some statute or rule that provides for a larger recovery, thatís probably your limit. 

More promising is that this same section appears to make violation of this rule a Class C felony.   A fellow might want to mention that to the scrap yard.  Maybe they would play nicer if they thought they had a really determined person willing to jam them up. 

If still no joy, maybe then raise a stink with the Alabama Department of Transportation and also the Alabama Department of Revenue. 

Those two departments may be able to give you good, and free, advice about how to proceed.   

Best bet would be to get an Alabama attorney.   Not sure how feasible that is since this may be a low dollar case.   Find somebody who will at least give you a free consultation.
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: twowheeladdict on December 17, 2020, 06:37:18 PM
Iím not your lawyer and Iím not giving you legal advice.  Iím a random dude on the internet who doesnít know you. 

But it appears that Alabama Code 32, section 32-8-87(s)(4) permits a civil action for restitution.   The problem you likely have is thisówhat is the fair market value of an old, wretched Ducati?  Unless there is some statute or rule that provides for a larger recovery, thatís probably your limit. 

More promising is that this same section appears to make violation of this rule a Class C felony.   A fellow might want to mention that to the scrap yard.  Maybe they would play nicer if they thought they had a really determined person willing to jam them up. 

If still no joy, maybe then raise a stink with the Alabama Department of Transportation and also the Alabama Department of Revenue. 

Those two departments may be able to give you good, and free, advice about how to proceed.   

Best bet would be to get an Alabama attorney.   Not sure how feasible that is since this may be a low dollar case.   Find somebody who will at least give you a free consultation.

To add to what SmithSwede so graciously offered to you, I recommend getting a lawyer to write a letter to the scrap yard on official letterhead, and then follow up with a phone call.   It is amazing what a letter signed by an attorney will do. 
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: Tom on December 17, 2020, 06:44:23 PM
The tow yard didn't follow procedure and kept their fingers crossed so that someone could keep the bike.  They cannot use the excuse that they didn't know the law.  Take them to court.  Sue them.  It's probably a small claim court case but they would have to show up in court and not with a lawyer representing them.  Yelp, Facebook, Chamber of Commerce & Better Business Bureau should have complaints filed with them.  Check what gov. agency regulates them.  A complaint should be filed with them too.  More than likely they have done this before.
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: nc43bsa on December 17, 2020, 06:52:57 PM
I'm wondering if someone connected to the scrapyard has possession of the Ducati and is hiding it, hoping for the legal problems to blow away.
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: Tom on December 17, 2020, 06:59:22 PM
This happened to the Jackal that I sold to a friend in Honolulu.  The son of the owner was hiding it off of their storage yard to keep it.  A couple of phone calls to friends in the Police department :copcar:  fixed the problem.  "LO....and behold it showed itself in the storage yard.  It's a miracle."  :bow:  For the inconvenience there were no storage charges or towing charges.   :grin:
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: LowRyter on December 17, 2020, 07:57:41 PM
Well, so great that the folks that "Protect and Serve" couldn't run the VIN and give the owner a call? 

Or just run the dang plate? 

It looks like the owner got rolled twice. 
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: Tkelly on December 18, 2020, 08:56:47 AM
If they caught the thief,the prosecutor should get you a restitution judgment aspart of the criminal case.The cops might let the defendant know he can get a better deal if he returns the other bike.In WI prosecutors have a person whose job is to communicate with crime victims and help with these issues,hopefully AL has the same.The DA should check out the scrap yard conduct.Good luck.
Title: Re: Convert Stolen in Tn
Post by: nc43bsa on September 18, 2021, 01:21:42 PM
Any news on a recovery?