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Title: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end?
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 03, 2023, 04:17:30 PM
Last Spring it was a '97 MZ Skorpion Tour, this year a 1993 BMW K75 that I bought from my friend Joe for $500. Lots of good stuff: Sargent seat, Works rear shock, heated grips, Parabellum Scout fairing, parts microfiche and viewer, extra filters, manuals (owner's, maintenance, Clymer). Why so cheap? He rebuilt the rear master cylinder and could never get the system to bleed out (non-ABS by the way). Plus, the engine wouldn't crank - key on, press starter button, nothing happened. Oh, and fuse #1 would blow as soon as the key was turned on. 177k miles.


(https://i.ibb.co/swdrt8y/EPA-pipe-BMW-008.jpg) (https://ibb.co/swdrt8y)

(https://i.ibb.co/wB7xWpd/EPA-pipe-BMW-011.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wB7xWpd)


I joined the "motobrick" forum and with the help of "Frankenduck" there, found that the fix was super simple. When Joe had the right footpeg plate off working on the master cylinder, he had pinched the brake light switch wires between it and the frame. A short resulted, fuse #1 blew, lots of important stuff received no power and it wouldn't crank. Fixed the switch wiring and now it starts and runs great!

The rear brake master cylinder is proving harder to fix. Even though the master cylinder has a new, genuine BMW rebuild kit in it, it refuses to pump. I had it apart to look for any defects and it seems the bore may actually be worn enough to allow leakage past the cup seals. No new master cylinders due to a BMW vs. Magura lawsuit. The motobrick guys adapt master cylinders meant for other brands, and this is what I'm now pursuing.

Other than that, there's some maintenance to catch up on, a cracked breather hose and 12 year old tires to replace. I hope to have it roadworthy by Memorial Day weekend.


Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: lazlokovacs on May 03, 2023, 04:39:24 PM
great stuff! the triples are the best of the bricks
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: Tom H on May 03, 2023, 05:30:55 PM
Nice! At 177k miles it's just broken in, at least for an airhead.

Tom
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: steven c on May 03, 2023, 05:39:32 PM
Great bikes. I had a K75S really enjoyed it. Good luck with the brakes.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: sdcr on May 03, 2023, 05:47:09 PM
Nice one Charlie.
Very nice shade of blue. and you are better off without ABS. The pumps usually go tits up eventually.
That is a very smooth engine.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: ohiorider on May 03, 2023, 06:09:22 PM
My first Beemers were (1) a 1985 K100RS, purchased as leftover in 1986, and (b) a 1988 K75S purchased in spring of 1988.

Although the K75 was far smoother, I decided to keep the K100RS, and sold the K75.  Put 10k on the K75 and 65k on the K100RS.  Went thru a bunch more K bikes over the years.

I often wished BMW had stuck with the 3 cylinder into the 1000cc bikes.

Bob
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: Scout63 on May 03, 2023, 09:36:06 PM
I had a K75 very briefly. Beautiful black machine.  Ran when parked.  I had to replace the fuel pump and injectors but didn’t seat one fully. I got two miles and it caught fire and burned up at a stop light. Now I carry a portable fire extinguisher in my back pack. You’ll get it sorted Charlie. I’d love to hear a full review.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: jhem68 on May 03, 2023, 10:46:32 PM
My last BMW was a K75s and it was probably the most under rated of the BMW line up. For those of us of modest stature it felt a little chunky and slightly top heavy with a full tank of gas which disappeared as soon as it was moving. But it was smooth, solid, very reliable, and great bike to own.
Most owners went on to the k100/k1100 series in a quest for more excitement but not me. After I sold my K1100LT to a friend, I purchased my used K75 which I found to be a better balance.

I hope you enjoy yours as much as I did mine.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: John A on May 03, 2023, 11:09:02 PM
I had a K75 very briefly. Beautiful black machine.  Ran when parked.  I had to replace the fuel pump and injectors but didn’t seat one fully. I got two miles and it caught fire and burned up at a stop light. Now I carry a portable fire extinguisher in my back pack. You’ll get it sorted Charlie. I’d love to hear a full review.




Tell me about the portable fire extinguisher, please. I’ve gotten used to having one around, the one I use on the bike is tall aerosol can I got at the welding store and I’m looking for one a little smaller.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: s1120 on May 04, 2023, 05:47:41 AM
The K75 is such a jewel of a motorbike. Engine has nowhere near the soul as our Guzzis do, but the whole package is just a perfect balance. K75S is still one of the best looking bikes as far as im concerned. Id buy one in a second.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: mechanicsavant on May 04, 2023, 07:25:31 AM
Ahh , the right foot plate issue . I ran into that a few times . Once with my bike & a few times with others . The micro switch never failed in the lab , the real world is something else !
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: HarveyMushman on May 04, 2023, 08:52:57 AM
Nice find and project. What are the washers on the tank for?
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: guido guzzi on May 04, 2023, 09:14:30 AM
Nice find and project. What are the washers on the tank for?

Magnetic tank bag because the tank is Aluminium?
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 04, 2023, 09:43:05 AM
Nice find and project. What are the washers on the tank for?
Magnetic tank bag because the tank is Aluminium?

Exactly. Thankfully the previous owner used a low-strength glue and they popped right off with a plastic wedge, no damage to the paint. I also removed about a half-dozen decals.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: bigbikerrick on May 04, 2023, 10:22:58 AM
Nice looking bike, Charlie. I like the blue color. I have always liked the "bricks". It sounds like you are having fun sorting a bike thats a bit different , than what you normally work on.
good luck with the brakes,
Rick D.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: RinkRat II on May 04, 2023, 10:52:03 AM

      Smokin' deal Charlie!! Welcome to the club  :thumb:
     
(https://i.ibb.co/Y3GFhZX/20180928-120136.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Y3GFhZX)

    Mine since new in '87. Best 6 grand I've ever spent.

     Paul B :boozing:
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: guido guzzi on May 04, 2023, 11:10:19 AM
      Smokin' deal Charlie!! Welcome to the club  :thumb:
     
(https://i.ibb.co/Y3GFhZX/20180928-120136.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Y3GFhZX)

    Mine since new in '87. Best 6 grand I've ever spent.

     Paul B :boozing:

Gotta agree with those who say the K75S is one of the best looking bikes ever! Had a red (1988?) and wish I hadn't sold it....
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: ohiorider on May 04, 2023, 11:58:29 AM
I think I posted this pic of my 1st BMW to WG years ago.  Here she is, one more time.  Photo was taken near or on "Pennsylvania's Grand Canyon," I believe, sometime between 1986 - 1988.  Pic quality is poor, since it had been taken using a Kodak Disc Camera which stayed hidden away in an old tank bag for years before being developed.


(https://i.ibb.co/gzp2m3h/My-First-BMW-1985-K100-RS.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gzp2m3h)


Bob

Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: Huzo on May 04, 2023, 04:07:48 PM
I never really paid them much heed, but that looks nicely balanced visually and looks like it would be a fabulous appliance.
It has that “Buy it, wash it, fuel and oil it, then ride it forever” look. If that fairing is properly mounted, it would no doubt be great.
Reminds me of my old GT 750 from the 70’s.
(https://i.ibb.co/vzXHVmw/IMG-0064.png) (https://ibb.co/vzXHVmw)
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 05, 2023, 09:53:56 AM
Rear master cylinder "fun". Decided to try and fix the original master cylinder. Previous owner had already put a rebuild kit in it, but it still wouldn't build pressure or bleed out. Bore was clean and pit free, large hole open, but small hole plugged totally closed. The top fitting is plastic and I don't think Magura meant for it to ever be removed. It had to be though - no other way to clean out the gunk and open the small hole. Pretty much destroyed it in the process. Had to use a tiny drill bit (.032") to open the hole. I plan to machine an alloy top fitting with o-ring seal. At least it now bench bleeds.


(https://i.ibb.co/s3jVZDj/BMW-011.jpg) (https://ibb.co/s3jVZDj)

(https://i.ibb.co/zF6kLbh/BMW-014.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zF6kLbh)


Plan B is to use a new Yamaha XT660 rear master cylinder, that I bought on ebay for $16. Bolt hole spacing is very close, push rod will need modification, a new hose will be required.

(https://i.ibb.co/qx8MzkR/Screenshot-2023-05-05-at-10-57-12-Rear-Brake-Master-Cylinder-for-Yamaha-TTR250-TT600-R-TZR125-XT660.png) (https://ibb.co/qx8MzkR)
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: Stretch on May 05, 2023, 09:08:47 PM
I've had a K75S for a couple of years now.
It's a very, very competent motorbike, and not
too bad to work on. Handles well, brakes are good if
not spectacular, handling is very good at high speed,
it's very stable at high speed, fuel economy is decent,
it's reasonably comfortable, and the engine is beautifully
smooth and torquey, although not the most powerful in class.

My machine has had the dreaded starter-stays-on-problem
twice.
I THINK I've got it sorted now - touch wood!  :grin:
That said, the electrics are more complicated than need
be.

Maintenance items are pretty inexpensive if one doesn't buy
the BMW stuff. ($27 for a BMW oil filter, anyone?!)

Nice score - even at 177K, there's lots more life left in the old girl.  :grin:

                                                          -Stretch
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 05, 2023, 09:28:56 PM
Rolled it outside for some photos in the sunshine (finally!) today. No right-side footpeg holder installed as I'm still working on the master cylinder.


(https://i.ibb.co/CWzTYvC/Lifters-K75-003.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CWzTYvC)

(https://i.ibb.co/ZX2nn6S/Lifters-K75-004.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZX2nn6S)

(https://i.ibb.co/GJ4Ffrn/Lifters-K75-005.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GJ4Ffrn)

(https://i.ibb.co/ZSZzw1b/Lifters-K75-006.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZSZzw1b)

(https://i.ibb.co/PM0MjKT/Lifters-K75-007.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PM0MjKT)

(https://i.ibb.co/0DgMrq1/Lifters-K75-008.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0DgMrq1)
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: Moparnut72 on May 06, 2023, 08:45:24 AM
Did someone say say BMW over complicated things? Check out the throttle setup on the handlebars of an early Airhead. A combination of a chain, bevel gears and whatnot.
kk
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: mhershon on May 06, 2023, 12:34:23 PM
Charlie, I had a '91 S-model and loved riding it. The fan blades would spin off the shaft and hole the back of the radiator. Happened three times. Eventually BMW replaced the fan and motor and the radiator for me but I was pretty disillusioned at that point and sold the bike. The transmission input shaft is a weak point, I believe, and must be lubed. If it fails, it's an expensive or laborious repair. And my original rear shock's adjuster ring would warp rather than turn around the shock body to tension the spring. I bought an aftermarket shock. Otherwise, I thought it was a great bike.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: Shorty on May 06, 2023, 09:31:59 PM
Nice! If you find the seat height a bother, they did make a low seat option consisting of the lowered seat and a rubber trim cover to fill the gap. Both available usually on EBAY.  My K75 came new with a little electronic chip in the tool kit. it was designed to recalibrate the fuel injection if you ever take it to high altitude. I never bothered with mine.

file photo low seat K75:    (https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmoto.zombdrive.com%2Fimages1600_%2Fbmw-k75-1995-11.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=7bd711cb7979405cd33ae0bd5c3919762c1378d8a91ece8e77fdaecea19e1674&ipo=images)
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 06, 2023, 09:51:32 PM
Nice! If you find the seat height a bother, they did make a low seat option consisting of the lowered seat and a rubber trim cover to fill the gap. Both available usually on EBAY.  My K75 came new with a little electronic chip in the tool kit. it was designed to recalibrate the fuel injection if you ever take it to high altitude. I never bothered with mine.

file photo low seat K75:    (https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmoto.zombdrive.com%2Fimages1600_%2Fbmw-k75-1995-11.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=7bd711cb7979405cd33ae0bd5c3919762c1378d8a91ece8e77fdaecea19e1674&ipo=images)

I am on tip toes and would like it a bit lower. Shock preload is dialed up for two up and if I can figure out how to adjust preload on a Works shock, that may help. The Sargent seat could be a little narrower as well - might have my upholstery guy trim a little off each side.

I have that little cylindrical chip thing, the previous owner wasn't sure what it did, now I know. Thanks!
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: guzziart on May 07, 2023, 06:34:44 AM
Charlie,
Nice Beemer, I like the color and the bags!
Art
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: RinkRat II on May 07, 2023, 09:32:24 AM

 Charlie,  The red bike pictured is the "C" model made for shorter legged riders. BMW also made a "Solo" seat for the standard k75's. It's about 2 inches lower and was designed for more spirited riding without a passenger. I don't know if the C model seat fits the standard K bike .
(https://i.ibb.co/dBcXdM4/61.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dBcXdM4)


  Looks like this.....

    Paul B :boozing:
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: Pescatore on May 08, 2023, 07:27:10 AM
Exactly. Thankfully the previous owner used a low-strength glue and they popped right off with a plastic wedge, no damage to the paint. I also removed about a half-dozen decals.

Great shape for a 30 year young bike.
How did you remove the stickers?  Heat gun?
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 08, 2023, 08:42:27 AM
Charlie,  The red bike pictured is the "C" model made for shorter legged riders. BMW also made a "Solo" seat for the standard k75's. It's about 2 inches lower and was designed for more spirited riding without a passenger. I don't know if the C model seat fits the standard K bike .
(https://i.ibb.co/dBcXdM4/61.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dBcXdM4)



That solo seat might be a good one for me. Thanks.

Great shape for a 30 year young bike.
How did you remove the stickers?  Heat gun?

Yes, heat gun on the low setting. WD40 removed some of the sticky residue, denatured alcohol on the more tenacious stuff.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: RinkRat II on May 08, 2023, 10:42:09 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/xSjLkxQ/20230508-082732.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xSjLkxQ)

   
    Might be what you're looking for.  No preload adjustment unless it's the parabellum

    Paul B :boozing:
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 08, 2023, 10:58:45 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/xSjLkxQ/20230508-082732.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xSjLkxQ)

   
    Might be what you're looking for.  No preload adjustment unless it's the parabellum



That was exactly what I needed - thanks! Looks like mine is already at the softest setting.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 09, 2023, 11:29:17 AM
Adapting an ebay Yamaha TT600 master cylinder the K75: https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjACPbw

Tires just arrived. Waiting on the brake fitting. Will be registered on Thursday, riding by the weekend.  :bike-037:
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: moto-uno on May 10, 2023, 04:17:36 AM
  This entire post puts a smile on my face . I worked on these when they were new . They ( the 3 cylinder) were definitely my favourite
Of the brick engined ones . Peter
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: Moparnut72 on May 10, 2023, 10:16:54 AM
I rode an early 1000 once that belonged to a friend. It was a bit buzzy but at 80+ was smooth a silk. I really liked the bike.
kk
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: ohiorider on May 15, 2023, 11:52:50 AM
Charlie, love to read your ride report once you get her on the road.  I had a "K bike addiction" from the mid-1980s into the 2000's.

Just located this jpg slide from a few years ago.

Bob


(https://i.ibb.co/ZWrwgNM/Couple-of-bricks-I-ve-owned.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZWrwgNM)
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 15, 2023, 12:29:44 PM
Charlie, love to read your ride report once you get her on the road.  I had a "K bike addiction" from the mid-1980s into the 2000's.

Just located this jpg slide from a few years ago.

Bob


(https://i.ibb.co/ZWrwgNM/Couple-of-bricks-I-ve-owned.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZWrwgNM)


It's been roadworthy since Wednesday, I posted these on my Facebook page:

From Thursday evening:
First ride on my BMW K75 this evening! I was just going to do a short one, but it was running so well I decided to keep going and ended up riding 60 miles.

First impressions: it's smooth - just the slightest vibration in the footpegs at certain engine speeds. Seems very comfortable - two hours and no complaints. Handles well, I wasn't pushing it hard with fresh tires though. Very stable at all speeds. Very torquey - pulls from 1500 rpm in 5th gear with ease, shifting is almost unnecessary once rolling. When revved through the gears it gets to "go straight to jail" speeds with ease. Front forks work well, rear shock is lacking in rebound damping - I could feel it topping out quite a bit. Front brakes are very good, rear brake doesn't do much - still needs work. It sounds better than expected - I figured I'd hear mostly whirring noises, but there's a nice, deep, three cylinder growl that is more dominant. At some speeds it has a little VW TDi sound. Fuel economy - either Joe had the tank filled completely to the top (edit: he did), or this thing gets very good mileage. I stopped in Shepherdstown to top up with fresh gas (gas in it is a year old, with stabilizer in it) and couldn't even get a gallon in.

Still quite a few items on my "to do" list but the first ride is very encouraging. 😊


From yesterday:
Late yesterday I was scurrying around trying to check off a few things on the k75's "to do" list so that I could ride it today. Oil change - check. Adjust clutch freeplay - check. Find out why the front tire is losing 15 psi overnight - check. Should have replaced the valve stems when I changed the tires. In my defense, this is only the second bike I've had that doesn't have tubes. Tighten muffler clamp bolt -check.

Left just before 10 am. Still a little cool, so I put the liner in my jacket. Headed west - wanted to see how the BMW did on the "slab" so took I-70 and I-68. Revs higher at 70 than I expected (5k rpms) but doesn't seem to mind. Had lunch in Keyser, WV, headed out to Blackwater Falls State Park. Took the long way home through Canaan Valley, Seneca Rocks, Petersburg, Moorefield, etc. 331 miles.

Found out a few things: the windscreen is too low - it's been cut lower and I wish that it hadn't been. My left hand was getting a horrible sharp pain in it until I removed the "Grip Puppies" (foam covers that go over grips to make them softer and larger). No more pain afterwards. The Sargent seat is all day comfortable. The lean forward is a little too much, but rotating the handlebars rearward slightly should help. The fuel light starts coming on at ~ 185 miles. I filled up at 200 miles in Seneca Rocks and could barely get 3 gallons in it! That's almost 67 mpg! I need to run a few more tanks through it to see what my average is, but that's pretty phenomenal. 27 mpg better than my Convert. Not only that, but the BMW uses Regular 87 and the Guzzi likes Premium, so there's even more savings.

I think with a few changes to suit me, the K75 will be my choice for longer distance rides from now on. 🙂


I ordered a new YSS rear shock for it, should arrive on Wednesday. New rear brake hose is ordered as well.

Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again)
Post by: ohiorider on May 15, 2023, 06:17:23 PM
Thanks for the review, Charlie

Bob
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 28, 2023, 08:50:47 PM
Yesterday around noon I headed south the Marlinton, WV for the night. Stopped by to visit with friends at the Cass BMW Rally on the way.
Had an enjoyable evening talking with other guests at the Old Clark Inn. Things quickly went "udders skyward" this morning though.

Just after 10:30 this morning as I was headed north out of Marlinton, a woman in a Ford Focus turned left right in front of me. No time to react
- 40+ mph impact (I was just under the posted limit of 40 and she of course was moving around 10). Next thing I know I'm on my back looking
up at the sky wondering if I was dead. Fortunately, I wasn't. I fear the BMW is though. Front forks are bent, fork brace cracked, lots of other stuff
busted and broken. Frame is likely bent.  :cry: I was just starting to bond with it.

Everyone at the DQ where it happened came to my assistance, State Police and ambulance came within 5 minutes. Everyone was super nice and helpful.
Nothing broken, but left kneecap and big toe don't look too pretty. Right hand hurts - likely sprained. Apparently I did my best Superman imitation and
flew over the hood. Head never hit the ground. Jacket has minors scuffs, Kevlar jeans just dirty. Boots and gloves did their job.

Wrecker came and hauled me and the bike down to a U-Haul place 5 miles south where I rented a truck. Everyone went out of their way to help. 6 brutal
hours later I'm finally home. May need to go to Urgent Care to make sure toe and/or foot isn't broken. 🙁


(https://i.ibb.co/tbPhV1H/West-Virginia-Trip-disaster-strikes-048.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tbPhV1H)


(https://i.ibb.co/j8BBy1b/West-Virginia-Trip-disaster-strikes-049.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j8BBy1b)


"Air Ride Suspension." Must have been set to full hard. 39 over to Warm Springs, VA and 220 to Petersburg, WV hammered my already aching body.

(https://i.ibb.co/3WhhVpf/West-Virginia-Trip-disaster-strikes-050.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3WhhVpf)
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: Tom H on May 28, 2023, 09:06:44 PM
I'm soo sorry to hear this! I do hope you are completely fine! Sorry to hear about the bike, maybe it's fixable. Glad so far that your OK!

Been reading about too many wrecks lately.

Good health,
Tom
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: cliffrod on May 28, 2023, 09:24:58 PM
Wow, man- glad you’re ok, Charlie. Your healing & recovery will be on my mind.  Take care.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: moto on May 28, 2023, 09:30:16 PM
So glad that you seem to have escaped with minor bodily damage. I hope you heal quickly.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: Shorty on May 28, 2023, 09:38:48 PM
Get well soon.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: EldoEVert on May 28, 2023, 09:54:54 PM
Charlie, I'm glad you made it through with hopefully minor injuries. You best get checked out as soon as possible.
I can tell you that a foot injury is nothing to fool around about. I broke mine over 2 years ago and it's still not right.
I certainly hope that they charged the lady.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: guzzisteve on May 28, 2023, 11:07:48 PM
Sorry to hear this Charlie. Could have been worse, much worse. get well and stay off those BMWs. I'm not a fan of them. At least it saved your Guzzi's from the wreck. Your going to feel all that stuff when you get older.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: Turin on May 29, 2023, 02:28:33 AM
Glad your okay.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: s1120 on May 29, 2023, 03:02:26 AM
So sorry to hear that. I hope your heal up fast.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: balvenie on May 29, 2023, 04:25:49 AM
That's terrible luck mate. And you have been to all that trouble working on it. Hope you heal good and proper :thumb:
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: chuck peterson on May 29, 2023, 05:17:18 AM
$h1#%!

Good to hear your alright..
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: kballowe on May 29, 2023, 05:27:24 AM
Prayers for a speedy recovery.

 :bike-037:
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 29, 2023, 05:36:56 AM
Sorry Charlie. At least the sausage creature came out (mostly) undamaged..
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: john fish on May 29, 2023, 06:23:49 AM
Damn.  Sorry to hear that.  Go get a couple X-rays just to make sure you're OK.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: Stretch on May 29, 2023, 06:42:25 AM
Oh, No!

I'm glad you're okay - too bad about the bike. It sounds as if it
was a keeper for sure.

Out and about yesterday in 90 F heat for about 220 miles
on both the KLR and the big Guzzi 1400.

No close calls - although I DID anticipate the Mini making a
left turn out of the Coop down in Belfast.

                                         -Stretch
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: Dave Swanson on May 29, 2023, 07:08:14 AM
I'm glad to hear that you are mostly OK.  Hopefully she will pay more attention in the future.  Did it set her airbags off? 

How sore are you today?
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: Pescatore on May 29, 2023, 08:43:50 AM
What a bummer.   :sad:
Seems the perfect case of drivers looking but not "seeing"
Maybe the fork brace saved the frame.
I hope you're OK.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: czakky82 on May 29, 2023, 09:11:43 AM
Dang! Glad that it wasn’t worse. Here’s to a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 29, 2023, 09:45:18 AM
I'm glad to hear that you are mostly OK.  Hopefully she will pay more attention in the future.  Did it set her airbags off? 

How sore are you today?

I don't think the airbags deployed, maybe because the BMW glanced off her front end vs. a direct head-on hit.

Already feeling a bit better - right hand is 80% functional, only the thumb is sore. No new aches and pains. Still need to go to Urgent Care a.s.a.p. for my left foot.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: John A on May 29, 2023, 11:22:04 AM
Sorry to hear about that, I’m sure glad you weren’t badly hurt. At least it wasn’t a Guzzi!
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: jrt on May 29, 2023, 12:12:12 PM
Same here-  glad you are ok, Charlie.  Take care!
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: JBU on May 29, 2023, 01:49:34 PM
So sorry to hear of the accident.  Thankfully you were able to walk away.  Hoping for a fast and easy recovery.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: JJ on May 29, 2023, 02:31:12 PM
So sorry to hear of the accident.  Thankfully you were able to walk away.  Hoping for a fast and easy recovery.

Yes...sorry to hear this news, Charlie....Take care...and GET WELL SOON!!
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: guzziart on May 29, 2023, 02:40:01 PM
Charlie,

Geez, I just saw this... glad you were able to walk away and atgatt worked for you.  It's unfortunate that your newest toy was not as lucky.

Art
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: Canuck750 on May 29, 2023, 03:04:47 PM
I am hoping you have received some good news; no broken bones or serious soft tissue injuries.

Wishing you a full recovery. :thumb:
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: Italianmotofest on May 29, 2023, 04:56:54 PM

Charlie, Sorry I wasn’t around to help out.

Please let me know what I can do.

My back is starting to heal.

Bill
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 29, 2023, 05:56:21 PM
It took me three tries, but I finally got to see an urgent care doctor earlier today. First place "Med Express" had 13 people ahead of me - I wasn't willing to wait that long. Second place was recommended by sister Nan - UNI Urgent Care in the North End of Hagerstown. They couldn't do x-rays (equipment issue?) so sent me to the other UNI location near Valley Mall. Maybe a 15 min. wait if that. Told me what it would cost up front - $125, and x-rays would be $100.
 
Results: "Nondisplaced fracture of proximal phalanx of right thumb, initial encounter for closed fracture". Everything else just bruised or sprained. Prescribed 800 mg of ibuprofen every 6 hours for 7 days, and cyclobenzaprine 10 mg tablet - 1 at bedtime for 14 days. Oh, and a splint for my thumb. "It will be $300 if we supply it, buy it at CVS and save." Only $10 at CVS.

I'd like to thank everyone for their concern, and wishes for a speedy recovery. Also, I'd like to thank Blaine Paulus Jr. for unloading the BMW from the moving truck. No way I could have done it myself. The BMW initially doesn't look too bad, but a lot of parts don't line up anymore, I fear the frame is bent in the rear as well as the front. It will most likely be a few weeks before it's fate is known.

Saddlebag full of shrapnel.

(https://i.ibb.co/HFrZdyR/Accident-injuries-BMW-007.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HFrZdyR) (https://i.ibb.co/HHF7kRQ/Accident-injuries-BMW-008.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HHF7kRQ) (https://i.ibb.co/PGpfy7Y/Accident-injuries-BMW-009.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PGpfy7Y) (https://i.ibb.co/gvHBLPk/Accident-injuries-BMW-010.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gvHBLPk) (https://i.ibb.co/vdBqZMf/Accident-injuries-BMW-011.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vdBqZMf) (https://i.ibb.co/2YJQ1V0/Accident-injuries-BMW-012.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2YJQ1V0) (https://i.ibb.co/r0QKZBs/Accident-injuries-BMW-013.jpg) (https://ibb.co/r0QKZBs) (https://i.ibb.co/hBp6VPn/Accident-injuries-BMW-014.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hBp6VPn) (https://i.ibb.co/ScBK0ZK/Accident-injuries-BMW-015.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ScBK0ZK) (https://i.ibb.co/HLZBdcf/Accident-injuries-BMW-016.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HLZBdcf)


Here's a link to my photos from the trip, before to the accident.
https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAFEVV
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: Cam3512 on May 29, 2023, 07:02:45 PM
Glad you’re okay Charlie.  I’d sue that chick, that was pretty egregious and stupid on her part.  I’m assuming she was insured? 

Totaled bike, medical bills, lost wages, etc.  They’ll settle.

Cam
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 29, 2023, 09:08:58 PM
Glad you’re okay Charlie.  I’d sue that chick, that was pretty egregious and stupid on her part.  I’m assuming she was insured? 

Totaled bike, medical bills, lost wages, etc.  They’ll settle.

Cam

Yes, she was insured. I'll see how things unfold over the next few days and decide on the best course of action.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: 2WheelsUp on May 29, 2023, 09:24:23 PM
Sorry to hear about your accident, happy you're ok... bummer about the BMW. Get well!
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: Scout63 on May 29, 2023, 10:03:11 PM
I’m glad you are ok Charlie. 
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: egschade on May 30, 2023, 10:50:10 AM
Glad to hear you're relatively OK. Always a judgement call on taking an ambulance ride but everything I read and have been told by EMS folks is to go to the ER unless your absolutely NOTHING hurts  or feel off. It's as much an insurance/legal thing as getting care.

Hopefully the driver's insurance doesn't play the 'refused medical care' card and pays all your medical bills, U-Haul cost and/or gaps on the BMW's value. Have a good long talk w/ your insurance agent about what you've paid out of pocket.

Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: dguzzi on May 30, 2023, 02:49:35 PM
  Dang it Charlie, thats a terrible way to end a great adventure. Like everyone said its good to hear that you are ok.
I was hoping to hear more about your fun with that bike, I have an Alazurra, very similar (in my mind), Corbin seat and Works shocks. the only problem ever is old brakes....
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: lazlokovacs on May 30, 2023, 03:17:15 PM
glad to hear you're ok... must have been a real ordeal

ride safe everyone and ATGATT
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: SIR REAL ED on May 31, 2023, 05:30:17 AM


Glad to hear you are OK Charlie.  Life can change a lot in a tenth of a second.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: Nick on May 31, 2023, 05:47:24 AM
Sorry to hear about the accident Charlie. Glad you are relatively OK. You are one tough cookie!!
Now get well soon.  :wink:
Ciao,
Nick
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: kingoffleece on May 31, 2023, 07:42:44 AM
All the best, sir.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: pressureangle on May 31, 2023, 08:36:36 AM
That left turn is the worst fear I carry riding. Never been got but got close a dozen times. Glad you're not seriously hurt, I speared the windshield of a Pontiac that crossed the centerline and broke 4 vertebrae in my neck. You're very fortunate. FWII, I really hate Cyclobenzaprine; I would only take it if I actually had muscle spasms. Makes me want to stare out the window drinking coffee all day, which is probably ok for a week while you heal.
I recall back in the 90's there were franchises with digital frame machines- any idea if they're still around? That's such a beautiful bike I'd hate to see it parted.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 31, 2023, 10:15:06 AM
That left turn is the worst fear I carry riding. Never been got but got close a dozen times. Glad you're not seriously hurt, I speared the windshield of a Pontiac that crossed the centerline and broke 4 vertebrae in my neck. You're very fortunate. FWII, I really hate Cyclobenzaprine; I would only take it if I actually had muscle spasms. Makes me want to stare out the window drinking coffee all day, which is probably ok for a week while you heal.
I recall back in the 90's there were franchises with digital frame machines- any idea if they're still around? That's such a beautiful bike I'd hate to see it parted.

It's always been one of my worst fears as well. I am definitely very fortunate. I'm still trying to figure out how the bike ended up laying it's left side, and I ended up on my back looking up at the sky without ever hitting my helmet on anything.

I skipped the cyclobenzaprine, didn't feel the need. Feeling a little better today - was actually able to get out of bed this morning without dragging myself with my left arm!  :azn: Left foot is still swollen, but not as much. Abrasion on my left kneecap seems to be healing well. 

The K-Bike guys seem to think the frame is fine and that with a new front end, plus a few other parts, it could be back in action. Time will tell. As of yesterday the WV State Police had no record of the accident - "it takes a few days for the report to make it into our system". May takes weeks before anything is resolved. 
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: vintage53 on May 31, 2023, 10:48:43 AM
Charlie,

Just saw this post.
Wishing you the best, and a full recovery.   Get yourself checked out, as certain issues take a while to surface.

Regards,
Joe

Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 31, 2023, 10:54:25 AM
Charlie,

Just saw this post.
Wishing you the best, and a full recovery.   Get yourself checked out, as certain issues take a while to surface.

Regards,
Joe

I was checked out at Urgent Care on Monday afternoon, nothing more has surfaced since.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: Dharma Bum on May 31, 2023, 12:47:41 PM
Just saw this today, hope all works out for you and glad to hear your injuries are not too serious. Take it easy, hopefully the brick can be repaired.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end.
Post by: bigbikerrick on May 31, 2023, 01:55:15 PM
Sorry to hear about the accident, Charlie. I am glad to hear that you emerged with relatively minor injuries. For sure it could have been alot worse.
take care
Rick D.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end?
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on June 04, 2023, 06:50:46 PM
Another update. I think the "fat lady has sung" for the K75. Looking it over a bit more closely this evening, I found this crack where the frame bolts to the cylinder head on the left side. This could be "the tip of the iceberg" as far as damage and is more than I really want to deal with.


(https://i.ibb.co/gDv0FhV/K75-cylinder-head-crack-001.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gDv0FhV)

(https://i.ibb.co/Wv25PYQ/K75-cylinder-head-crack-002.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Wv25PYQ)
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end?
Post by: lucian on June 04, 2023, 07:21:34 PM
Damn left turners,  it's like playing Russian roulette every time you encounter one. I'm glad you didn't get beat up worse Charlie.  It's a bummer  your nice K bike got wrecked , I hope you heal back up ASAP.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end?
Post by: Stretch on June 04, 2023, 07:36:35 PM
I hope your hand is healing quickly, Charlie.

Shame about the cracked cylinder head.

I'm sure you could find a good used one, but as you say, after
an impact like the one your bike suffered, that damage is but the tip of the
iceberg. Everything will have to be checked for truth and structural
integrity; and you're gonna need at least a cylinder head if not a whole motor.

                                               -Stretch



Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end?
Post by: larrys on June 05, 2023, 08:09:00 AM
Glad you're okay and on the mend. Tough deal on the bike. Unlike our bodies, there's always another bike.
Larry
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end?
Post by: n3303j on June 05, 2023, 09:26:27 AM
Glad you are okay. Another adventure in the logbook. In these events you never know how you got there and the bike ended up elsewhere. High sided my T3 and an eye witness told me the bike did a  complete 360° flip. I'm glad it ejected me first.

Engine, transmission, swingarm and final drive are an integrated unit on the K series. Tabs on the engine provide mounting points for steering, seat and suspension. The power train is a major stressed member in the frame. Cracked engine mounting points are common collision damage on those bikes.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end?
Post by: adaven on June 05, 2023, 12:56:57 PM
Bad news, Charlie. Glad you are OK. There is an awful lot of opportunity for bad things to happen on the road. Many many distractions and incompetent drivers. We can only heave a sigh of relief that you got up and walked (limped?) away.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end?
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on June 05, 2023, 04:41:34 PM
Stick a fork in it.. it's done.  :evil: At least you are feeling well enough to have a look at it. I hope you are still (relatively) ok..
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end?
Post by: Tkelly on June 05, 2023, 06:00:10 PM
FWIW I always assume a stopped vehicle may turn in front of me and back off the throttle until they see me and get ready for evasive action.Your crash sounds unavoidable on your part so do not economize on medical expenses as she is liable.Good luck on the recovery process.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end?
Post by: nc43bsa on June 05, 2023, 06:23:53 PM
This sort of situation is why I ride in town with my fingers resting on the front brake lever and my thumb next to the horn button.  I've had a few opportunities to test my reactions, but the only time I've actually had a collision was from behind.

Not sure if this would have helped in your situation, though.
Title: Re: Charlie goes German (again) UPDATE: An untimely end?
Post by: cliffrod on June 05, 2023, 07:23:43 PM
Glad to hear your bike died to save you.  If it was the other way around, another BMW still on the road wouldn’t mean as much to us….

I hope your healing progresses well.