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Offline Meinolf

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ABS module support in GuzziDiag
« on: May 10, 2021, 01:03:33 PM »
Hi,

over the weekend Beard decided to start the implementation of ABS module support in GuzziDiag. My contribution was to hook up PADS, K-Spy and a DSO first to the 2V 1200 Norge, which uses the Bosch ABS module, and later the Aprilia Mana, which uses the Conti ABS module. Which we believe is the same one as used in the Guzzi range.

Not the tidiest measuring setup, but the one on the Norge looked worse due to the 2 Zeitronix and their wiring loom.




Beard needed to know the init sequence and the comm speed to begin the communication between host and ABS module. Which, as can be easily gleaned from below picture, is 10.4kBaud and 11bit package.




Yesterday afternoon we began with the Norge. Here's a picture of the view PADS give of the Bosch ABS. Only few selectable options and very limited information. And, it seems, no way to activate the module to support flushing.




This morning we continued with the Conti. Which provides more information and  activation of the module to support flushing. The picture shows the first successful connect between GuzziDiag and the ABS module.




More work to be done to implement these functions in GuzziDiag, but the most important hurdle of getting the connection(s) established was taken.

Cheers
Meinolf
« Last Edit: May 10, 2021, 01:05:28 PM by Meinolf »

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Re: ABS module support in GuzziDiag
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2021, 01:06:29 PM »
Good going! :thumb:
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Re: ABS module support in GuzziDiag
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2021, 01:38:20 PM »
that is good news and hope you guys can work it out!

please keep us posted and I'll be glad to be a test pig if you need one on a Stelvio...

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Re: ABS module support in GuzziDiag
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2021, 02:16:01 PM »
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Re: ABS module support in GuzziDiag
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2021, 08:27:36 AM »
Excellent!

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Re: ABS module support in GuzziDiag
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2021, 08:37:55 AM »
 :bow:

Thanks for the hard work over there.
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Re: ABS module support in GuzziDiag
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2021, 09:05:21 AM »
Hi,

..., which uses the Conti ABS module. Which we believe is the same one as used in the Guzzi range.

one of the selectable actions in PADS is to reset the "Coding". When executing this function a password is shown and, upon entering it, the successful operation is confirmed after several seconds.





We thought about what this "Coding" might entail. A reasonable guess could be that the Conti ABS modul can be tuned to a specific motorcycle model (wheel/tire size, weight, ...) to select the appropiate function of the ABS modul for this model. Following this thought PADS would propose a password specific to the selected brand/model.

I don't have, as mentioned earlier, access to a Guzzi with a Conti ABS, the screenshot is from the Mana.

Has any of you connected PADS to a Guzzi and taken note of the password? So that we can confirm or refute the assumption.

Cheers
Meinolf

PS Showing and clearing stored errors with GuzziDiag already works
« Last Edit: May 11, 2021, 09:06:01 AM by Meinolf »

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Re: ABS module support in GuzziDiag
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2021, 06:04:25 PM »
Hi,

one of the selectable actions in PADS is to reset the "Coding". When executing this function a password is shown and, upon entering it, the successful operation is confirmed after several seconds.





We thought about what this "Coding" might entail. A reasonable guess could be that the Conti ABS modul can be tuned to a specific motorcycle model (wheel/tire size, weight, ...) to select the appropiate function of the ABS modul for this model. Following this thought PADS would propose a password specific to the selected brand/model.

I don't have, as mentioned earlier, access to a Guzzi with a Conti ABS, the screenshot is from the Mana.

Has any of you connected PADS to a Guzzi and taken note of the password? So that we can confirm or refute the assumption.

Cheers
Meinolf

PS Showing and clearing stored errors with GuzziDiag already works

The coding is if you link the abs unit to a different type of bike. Like ABS unit is broken, you buy one form another bike, than it can be that it needs to be married to the ecu, that's done with the coding. And if i'm correct, most times it's all the same password.
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Re: ABS module support in GuzziDiag
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2023, 06:50:14 PM »
  I know this was from a while ago,but has there been any follow-up ? I'd be interested in flushing
  the brakes on my 2018 Eldorado .   Peter

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Re: ABS module support in GuzziDiag
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2023, 02:14:09 PM »
  I know this was from a while ago,but has there been any follow-up ? I'd be interested in flushing
  the brakes on my 2018 Eldorado .   Peter

If you use the 0.60 version it is there. In the settings list where you choose the bike, there is a separate option for the Conti abs. It's at the bottom of the list.  So don't search it as option under your bike menu.
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Re: ABS module support in GuzziDiag
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2023, 09:52:37 PM »
 :boozing:  You guys continue to amaze. I've been running V4.7 without issue for years, and just downloaded the V6 and new reader/writer programs for the 5 & 3 ECUs. Will hook up and try soon, and use it to flush the ABS on the Stornello which is my only bike with ABS.

I do have one question, what is the purpose of MEEPROMTool ?
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Re: ABS module support in GuzziDiag
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2023, 09:57:17 PM »
Holy cow…!
I was lost after the word “Hi”, in the opening post.
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Re: ABS module support in GuzziDiag
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2023, 07:28:05 PM »

A big thank you for following up on my question , some thing to tinker with when it warms up here in The Great White North  :thumb: . Peter

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