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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #90 on: August 20, 2017, 01:31:51 PM »
The more I follow your great post the more I want a bacon slicer of my own.  :1:

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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #91 on: August 20, 2017, 06:03:27 PM »
Well, that's a pasta machine you got right there, so we need to use pasta rules for the pushrod problem.  Boil the pushrod for 6 minutes in salted water.  Add a bit of oil to keep it from sticking.  It should go limp, and then you can hang it or pull it straight.  When it cools and hardens, it's ready.   :food:

If that doesn't work, try this:

https://www.pushrods.net/one-piece-pushrods?gclid=CJv-w9-n5tUCFUWXfgodo9UDxg

Nice find, David..  :thumb:
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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #92 on: August 20, 2017, 07:41:45 PM »
Well, that's a pasta machine you got right there, so we need to use pasta rules for the pushrod problem.  Boil the pushrod for 6 minutes in salted water.  Add a bit of oil to keep it from sticking.  It should go limp, and then you can hang it or pull it straight.  When it cools and hardens, it's ready.   :food:

If that doesn't work, try this:

https://www.pushrods.net/one-piece-pushrods?gclid=CJv-w9-n5tUCFUWXfgodo9UDxg

Ha!  Awesome link - thanks!  I'll be calling them.
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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #93 on: August 20, 2017, 07:44:57 PM »
The more I follow your great post the more I want a bacon slicer of my own.  :1:

You're much more patient than I have been and would do a beautiful job with it. 
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Re: Bacon Slicer project
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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #94 on: August 20, 2017, 09:09:07 PM »
Caught me!  :embarrassed:  It's my bicycle HID headlight.  I had to use it and a bicycle tailight because the electrical is not hooked up yet...

LOL.     I use an LED bicycle headlight on my Ducati 250 Monza, because the charging system currently isn't healthy enough to run the 25w headlight, the ignition system, and still charge the battery.

The bicycle headlight is way brighter than the 25w 6-volt headlight anyway.
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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #95 on: August 20, 2017, 10:41:09 PM »
Great work, congratulations on getting it running!
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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #96 on: August 22, 2017, 07:37:53 AM »
I was at an old timer show last Sunday and saw this;


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The owner didn't want to sell it though. He's owned it over 20 years. He went sky high when I stupidly told him how much I'd was now worth.

Luckily there are two other slicers advertised in a club newsletter .
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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #97 on: August 22, 2017, 12:55:55 PM »
Good pic of really old, and less old.   Nice slicer, and nice 750S3.   I'd be happy to either or both in my garage.

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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #98 on: August 22, 2017, 11:47:42 PM »
I was at an old timer show last Sunday and saw this;


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The owner didn't want to sell it though. He's owned it over 20 years. He went sky high when I stupidly told him how much I'd was now worth.

Luckily there are two other slicers advertised in a club newsletter .

Cool bike. Enclosed valves - does that make it an Astore or Falcone?  That front brake sure looks effective compared to the one on mine. 

And yes the 750S is a great looking bike too.
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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #99 on: August 23, 2017, 05:52:36 AM »
Cool bike. Enclosed valves - does that make it an Astore or Falcone?  That front brake sure looks effective compared to the one on mine. 

And yes the 750S is a great looking bike too.

It's a 1951 Falcone. I gave him my card, maybe he will call and ask me to buy it from him.  Huh, what's that noise? Oh, my alarm clock.  I was dreaming 😀😀
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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #100 on: August 25, 2017, 07:07:25 PM »
It's a 1951 Falcone. I gave him my card, maybe he will call and ask me to buy it from him.  Huh, what's that noise? Oh, my alarm clock.  I was dreaming 😀😀

Let's hope he gives you a call.  If you do get one, post about it on here.  WG needs more bacon!   :grin:
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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #101 on: August 27, 2017, 07:04:25 AM »
Let's hope he gives you a call.  If you do get one, post about it on here.  WG needs more bacon!   :grin:

WHEN I get one, I won't shut up about it😁😁😁!!
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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #102 on: August 29, 2017, 09:07:22 PM »
WHEN I get one, I won't shut up about it😁😁😁!!

I like that sentiment  :grin:  here's a photo from around town yesterday.
(Really do need to pull the flywheel, clean the clutch and rebuild the generator...)


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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #103 on: August 30, 2017, 12:10:28 AM »
Needs more red.

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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #104 on: August 30, 2017, 01:25:05 PM »
Needs more red.

LOL!

I think it is beautiful!
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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #105 on: August 30, 2017, 08:43:21 PM »
So SED, is the bacon slicer project finished for now, or are you planning more work on it?

Great job, I was amazed at how fast you got it running and rideable.

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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #106 on: August 30, 2017, 10:23:32 PM »
I like that sentiment  :grin:  here's a photo from around town yesterday.
(Really do need to pull the flywheel, clean the clutch and rebuild the generator...)




Can we get an update rider report? What speed is it comfortable up to, cruising speed, how are the brakes, steering, I bet its a blast|!

Would you recommend it as a sunny day rider?

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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #107 on: August 30, 2017, 11:34:33 PM »
Can we get an update rider report? What speed is it comfortable up to, cruising speed, how are the brakes, steering, I bet its a blast|!

Would you recommend it as a sunny day rider?

It is a blast to ride, but it is very small - I've moved the seat back and up about 1" and my knees are still a couple inches above the knee pads.  I'm 5' 11", but it seems to have been built for someone about 5' 6". 

It is fun to ride, but it has lots of problems.

The brakes are very weak (working on it), the clutch is very sticky and drags (flushing clutch chamber with gasoline helps - clutch is bronze and steel plates lubes by mist from the engine breather), 2nd and 3rd gears are very noisy and both will jump out of gear (needs a rebuild so I should probably not be riding it  :rolleyes:).

Hard to say about the steering. It has a very tight turning circle - bars might be 45 degrees full lock! The girder fork bushings are worn and there is roughly 1/16" slop in the worst shaft. Fork spring is very weak and sags at least 1" below neutral with me on it. The steering damper does not really work yet.  These factors make the steering feel very light and quick. Despite that I can ride no hands for a short distance.  Until last weekend it would drag the stand because the stand wouldn't clear the muffler. I can now corner more, but it has old Italian Pirellis so not feeling very aggressive!

Carb is very worn, but seems to work well and the bike starts, runs and idles hot or cold.  (this is also a good sign for the Marelli magneto!)  The bike is geared very high with a 33 tooth rear sprocket - I think it was correct for the GTV's hand change 3 speed predecessor , and may have been continued on early GTVs (or it's a big bitsa).  Engine likes to lope along at very relaxed RPM, but has lots of low end torque and pulls OK up to about 50 mph.  Guzzi claimed a top speed of about 120kph, but it is over-geared and not frenetic.

It is unit construction with gearbox and engine sharing oil and there is plenty of evidence that I should pull the engine and rebuild it - noisy gears, slop in roller cam followers, valves stem and rocker posts misaligned due to wear.  I really need to do that, but right now I'm having fun making it all work.

I also need to fix the lighting, I've ridden it with bicycle lights, but can't make a habit of that! 

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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #108 on: August 31, 2017, 12:17:54 AM »
To answer PPasta - YES!

Last weekend I borrowed a torch from one friend and a welder from another! 

Stand was splayed too wide and pipe is wrong and kinked in.




Used the torch to heat the pipe cherry red and straighten it (no pic) and did the same to the stand. Traced it on both sides of the paper and held it up to a window so I could keep it symmetric.

     


The stand stops on the frame were badly worn so I laid a bead of weld on the stand rather than disassemble the bike and rivet in a new stand stop that I would have to make.  I'll do that when I restore it!  :evil:

   


The feet of the stand were worn out - at least 1/8" of steel was worn away where the feet touched the ground - it was so thin it was bending.  I reinforced the feet where they touched the ground by welding and grinding.  The feet were still too far out (they started 2"+ from frame) so cut them off and rewelded them onto the stand.  (lots of test fitting)

   


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All this work resulted in a great working stand. It holds the bike straighter, holds the rear wheel up more, and is easier to get on and off.  Despite that, I don't know what is correct - hope I've not cut an original but distorted stand.  :embarrassed:




Gonna use the welder on the brakes next!   :evil:
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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #109 on: August 31, 2017, 09:00:16 PM »
The other project I needed Brad's welder for was the brake pedal which is made from a stamping with a tube brazed to it.  It was coming loose.





There was also lots of wear in the all other parts of the brake linkage. 1st picture shows wear in pivot for brake pedal that doubles as foot rest mount - note how it's thickness changes.  Second - worn pivot.  Third - difficult to see, but eye had been worn, rewelded, chromed and worn again. Forth - worn rear brake rod.

           


Fixed pedal first: (practice welding on 80 year old MC)

   


The pedal pivot was very sloppy so decided to weld up the worn foot rest pivot.  My welding is horrible, so you get to see the cleaned up version. Not perfect, not machined to precision, but much better than before and very little slop.

         


More to do...

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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #110 on: August 31, 2017, 09:29:49 PM »

 Great job SED, can't wait for the spoke tuning!! :evil:

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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #111 on: August 31, 2017, 10:49:39 PM »
After a little welding and clean up.  :boozing:


         


The fits are pretty good despite the amateur welding and machining so some good fitting washers, robust cotter pins and moly grease and she'll be fine!   :cool:
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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #112 on: September 01, 2017, 11:08:09 PM »
This funny little piece is concentric with the swingarm pivot.  The lightbulb finally went on and I realized it was Guzzi's way of making sure that braking was not affected as the swingarm bounces over bumps.  Cool!




Thought this eye was OK because it was so symmetric, but it should be 6mm and was worn at least 8mm.  Welded and cleaned up.




Spent some time straitening the flat bar and brake rod in the vice.  The brake rod has been worn in two places along its length, apparently by rubbing against panier racks or exhaust hangers or pillion foot rests.  Previous "restorer" rechromed it right over the wear. Unfortunately it is 7mm - where can I find tough 7mm steel rod??? Thinking to got to 5/16 or 8mm, but then I can't use the original rear brake clevis and wing-nut that are stamped "Guzzi".

Put back together with close fitting flat washers, spring washers moly grease and new cotters.

     


Brake pedal feel is much firmer. Did a quick test ride up and down the street and brake feel was much firmer, but squeaky!  Will have to actually ride someplace to see if it made much of a difference...
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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #113 on: September 02, 2017, 08:55:59 AM »
McMaster-Carr has 7 mm steel rod in several varieties, here's "ultra-machinable":
https://www.mcmaster.com/#5544T262 . Search "standard steel rods" for more. 
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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #114 on: September 02, 2017, 09:11:59 AM »
How hard is it to get used to braking with your heal, instead of toe?
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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #115 on: September 02, 2017, 11:41:12 AM »
McMaster-Carr has 7 mm steel rod in several varieties, here's "ultra-machinable":
https://www.mcmaster.com/#5544T262 . Search "standard steel rods" for more.

Ordered it - Thanks!   I gotta remember McMaster-Carr - they have so much.
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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #116 on: September 02, 2017, 11:44:21 AM »
How hard is it to get used to braking with your heal, instead of toe?

It's really weird, but it seems that the idea is that the foot pegs are under the ball of your foot more like bicycle pedals.  That position reminds me to use the heal anyway.  You can definitely put more force on it with your heal than toe.
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Re: Bacon Slicer project
« Reply #117 on: September 02, 2017, 07:28:17 PM »
Thanks for the ride report, makes me want one even more.

Great work your doing, so many small and delicate repairs carried out, very impressive!

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« Reply #118 on: September 14, 2017, 09:46:11 PM »
Money Slicer!   :boozing:

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« Reply #119 on: September 14, 2017, 09:50:29 PM »
Hey that was so cool to see with Si the other weekend
and that bad boy  fired right up. What a great sound  really like Half a Guzzi Twin sound
hope we connect again I had a hoot riding with you all
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