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So we're all on the same page. The differences may be subtle to guys not familiar with this junk. First photo is a 60's Triumph with a "dry" frame, or pipe and brazed lug.. Organic beauty like a woman.. The pre OIF T120, are absolutely poetry on wheels, let alone a fine ride to boot. As long as the apples and oranges are kept in their respective areas, threads like can share folks personal experiences, enthusiasm, and appreciation for some truly great motorbikes of the latter 20th Century. OTOH , when it comes to better versus worse, not only this :beat_horse comes to mind, but it seems like a no brainer that some Guzzi guys would naturally Guzzis are best etc, etc, whereas the OP was just sharing with the group his ( fantastic , IMHO) build. Thankfully the pics and the actual riders experiences made up for the excess stuff