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New V9 Bobber Sport
« on: August 30, 2018, 09:01:18 AM »
Received email from Moto Guzzi mentioning a new V9 Bobber Sport to be unveiled during open house in September. Also received one teaser picture of it with Ohlins on the rear. Looking forward to seeing more pictures of it next month.

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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2018, 09:19:16 AM »
Received email from Moto Guzzi mentioning a new V9 Bobber Sport to be unveiled during open house in September. Also received one teaser picture of it with Ohlins on the rear. Looking forward to seeing more pictures of it next month.

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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2018, 11:38:40 AM »



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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2018, 02:05:06 PM »
I'll bite.  I loved my former Roamer.  But is a new paint scheme and Ohlins shocks gonna get more people to buy one?

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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2018, 02:11:35 PM »
I'll bite.  I loved my former Roamer.  But is a new paint scheme and Ohlins shocks gonna get more people to buy one?

but you're forgetting that little screen thingy in front of the speedo...

Hows it doing in Europe? Maybe this is in response to a stronger presence in that market.
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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2018, 03:45:40 PM »
A V9 with the V7 tank & seat, rear sets & a shorter wheel base would be just fine.
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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2018, 05:58:12 PM »
Looking forward to seeing more pictures of the Bobber sport.

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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2018, 10:41:03 PM »
seat looks real comfy  :rolleyes:

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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2018, 04:53:51 AM »
Guzzi needs to add better forks to all the small blocks.

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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2018, 05:22:00 AM »
They should have went the rest of the way with USD cartridge forks up front. 

My local dealer has cleared all his '17 V7s this past month and a few of the '18s have sold, but the '17 V9 bobber with a $2000 discount is still sitting there.  I'll bet you could have it for $8000 out the door if you show up with cash.
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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2018, 07:04:27 AM »
How can they call that "Sport" with that lump of a front tire still on it? Sounds like Harley marketing to me.

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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2018, 07:10:15 AM »
How can they call that "Sport" with that lump of a front tire still on it? Sounds like Harley marketing to me.

That makes it sportier than the Roamer.  :azn:  Have you ridden one or are you judging only by looks and preconceived notions?
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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2018, 07:44:12 AM »
Guzzi needs to add better forks to all the small blocks.

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I never thought my two V7s nor my Roamer had "handling" issues.  The bikes are what they are and wonderful as that.  Go buy a superduke if ya want more.   Butt if someone would have asked me how I thought handling could be improved I would have said start absolutely with the front forks.

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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2018, 08:23:06 AM »
I never thought my two V7s nor my Roamer had "handling" issues.  The bikes are what they are and wonderful as that.  Go buy a superduke if ya want more.   Butt if someone would have asked me how I thought handling could be improved I would have said start absolutely with the front forks.

I want superduke handling with half the HP.  Why is it that manufacturers only put quality suspension components on powerful motorcycles.  A well sorted Ninja 300 is going to go around tight curves as fast as a stock ZX10R.  I want to know when I lean the bike over in a curve and the pavement is less than perfect that the bike won't wallow and run the risk of the tire losing traction.  That is the main job of suspension, keep the tire in contact with the road surface.
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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2018, 09:21:54 AM »
"most" people don't want to pay the $$$$ premium for the top shelf suspension.

The OEMs can keep the pricepoint low by installing bargain basement suspension.

I, and other riders who RIDE, know the difference and are willing to pay the premium.

Guzzi should offer a "sport" version of every bike which includes Ohlins on both ends..
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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2018, 10:56:04 AM »
"most" people don't want to pay the $$$$ premium for the top shelf suspension.

The OEMs can keep the pricepoint low by installing bargain basement suspension.

I, and other riders who RIDE, know the difference and are willing to pay the premium.

Guzzi should offer a "sport" version of every bike which includes Ohlins on both ends..

I traded my Concours 1400 that I put 30,000 miles on for a Triumph Trophy SE.  I never missed the HP, and the Triumph with it's computer controlled suspension settings was much easier to ride fast on curvy roads.  Of course it MSRP'd for $5k more than the Connie.  Not many people are going to pull over and adjust the suspension because they just came off a nice set of curves and now have to ride less than stellar pavement to get back home.  Having the electronically adjustable suspension definitely spoiled me. 
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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2018, 12:42:54 PM »
Guzzi needs to add better forks to all the small blocks.

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It’s not to expensive to drop in the Matris kit and have compliant fully adjustable forks.

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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2018, 12:50:31 PM »
It�s not to expensive to drop in the Matris kit and have compliant fully adjustable forks.

Do you have a link?  All I see on AF1 is adjustable preload kits from Matris.   Don't see anything with compression and rebound damping adjustments.
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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2018, 01:04:34 PM »
FWIW, I've never had to change any suspension on any motorcycle I've ever owned, except for replacing an air shock on a 1986 Kawasaki 454 LTD, and that was only because they were leaking. YMMV, but I've never felt the need and I ride in some pretty nasty conditions on a regular basis. I learned other tricks like oil viscosity in forks, etc to alleviate. Heck, I even live on a 3 mile long gravel road and still have never felt the need.
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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2018, 03:39:38 PM »
FWIW, I've never had to change any suspension on any motorcycle I've ever owned, except for replacing an air shock on a 1986 Kawasaki 454 LTD, and that was only because they were leaking. YMMV, but I've never felt the need and I ride in some pretty nasty conditions on a regular basis. I learned other tricks like oil viscosity in forks, etc to alleviate. Heck, I even live on a 3 mile long gravel road and still have never felt the need.
Whenever I post that I can't see what the fuss is about, like seat, front forks etc.. on bikes like mine, I'm told...
"If it works for you, great... "blah blah
But really, I have never altered my forks in the Norge after 10 years and 155,000 k, and the whole thing works beautifully.
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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2018, 04:42:04 PM »
Is anyone else getting tired of satin/matt paint? That deep red would look so good with a gloss finish. I hope they dropped the checkerboard graphics, if so I'll give it a test ride.
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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2018, 06:55:31 PM »
FWIW, I've never had to change any suspension on any motorcycle I've ever owned, except for replacing an air shock on a 1986 Kawasaki 454 LTD, and that was only because they were leaking. YMMV, but I've never felt the need and I ride in some pretty nasty conditions on a regular basis. I learned other tricks like oil viscosity in forks, etc to alleviate. Heck, I even live on a 3 mile long gravel road and still have never felt the need.

Have you had the opportunity to ride a bike with premium suspension components adjusted correctly for you?  If not, don't or you will be spending money.  Same goes for cars, trucks, etc.

I bought a set of Bilstein HD shocks for my truck and before I mounted them I ran a route at speeds that got the tires squealing.  Then I mounted the shocks and ran the same route 10 mph faster than still had no tire squeal.  The shocks kept the tires in contact with the road and transformed the drive.  Same goes for motorcycles.  It makes them safer and more comfortable.
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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2018, 10:31:33 PM »
Is anyone else getting tired of satin/matt paint? 

Yeah.  Since about 2005.
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Is anyone else getting tired of satin/matt paint?

Yup. Looks either like primer, or like the clearcoat has oxidized away.
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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2018, 04:57:51 AM »
Is anyone else getting tired of satin/matt paint? That deep red would look so good with a gloss finish. I hope they dropped the checkerboard graphics, if so I'll give it a test ride.

I'm just starting to get used to it.  I would have never picked the Carbon Dark a couple years ago. 
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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2018, 05:24:55 AM »
Is anyone else getting tired of satin/matt paint? That deep red would look so good with a gloss finish. I hope they dropped the checkerboard graphics, if so I'll give it a test ride.

Yup, it’s probably what is keeping me off a MGX 21. Gloss black with just enough chrome is what I like, like my Cali Custom.
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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2018, 05:28:43 AM »
I'm with twowheel on this.  Spend time on a bike with quality components set up correct and, oh bot, it's a world of difference.
Some may not feel the need, and that's fine not everybody needs or wants that.  But the difference is real and measurable.

In the end, though, it only matters to the owner.  As it should be.
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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #27 on: September 07, 2018, 02:42:17 PM »
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Well, it does look more aggressive, and that's probably a good thing if you're going to call it a sport.  I think they likely should have upgraded the forks a bit.  Over all it looks better, but they apparently made no effort to up the power.  Guzzi doesn't seem to agree with me, and perhaps they have good reason for not ($$$) as over the last decade they call something a sport, but don't add any more power.

But I suspect this will increase v9 sales, if they don't over price it, and it is a nice little boost until the v85 tears up the road!
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Re: New V9 Bobber Sport
« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2018, 03:37:35 PM »
I guess it's the marketing departments idea of a Sport, but to me it looks like the Bobber with Ohlins and megaphone exhaust. Is that really enough to persuade buyers that passed on last year's V9s?
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« Reply #29 on: September 08, 2018, 08:17:41 AM »
Gorgeous.  Probably is more the way the bike should have looked upon its debut, at least to appeal to more riders.  Would I spend the what, extra 3.5 thousand dollars to own one over say anow heavily discounted Bobber or Roamer (as I previously owned)?  Not a chance, but as King noted earlier that's all up to the rider.  And I already thought the V9s were are snazzy machines.  But I grant ya, it's a sharp bike and for MG's sake, I wish they would have introduced the bike originally as more like this in terms of styling.  I personally think it would have appealed to more people in this trim, not necessarily the upscale Ohlins. Folks probably wouldn't have branded it as the cruiser clone many folks called the Roamer (again, I don't agree but they did/do) and somehow it also looks like it's not trying as hard stylistically as the standard Bobber buti know that's my opinion.  Something about it to me looks more starightforward and sleek.  I like it a lot.  Plus, I think it would have helped more buyers better understand the V9/V7 distinction in this sportier platform.  But that's all hindsight now.  Or is it?  What's the word, is Guzzi gonna keep sending over the V7s and the full V9 line again?
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