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Re: V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2015, 05:57:13 PM »
Is it a new model or a kit?
It sounds like a new model but one of the pictures makes it look like a kit.

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Re: V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2015, 06:12:55 PM »
Looks like a new model to me..

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Re: V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2015, 07:18:32 PM »
Wondering the same thing.  Though it's an Arrow exhaust.  The blue looks great!
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Re: V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2015, 08:27:48 PM »
I'd say the V7 II Scramler ABS is definitely a new model.

The new V7 II Racer is also on the U.S. website.  I like the brushed metal tank, but don't really like the red section at the end of the tank. The 7's on the number plates are now gone.

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Re: V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2015, 09:20:22 PM »
Okay, I have to ride this one now! I have been asking for this bike. This is pretty much what I want minus about 10 or 15 hp...but I think it is all we are going to get out of this engine. Will it be enough? I have my doubts, but I am going to give it a chance.
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Re: V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2015, 10:42:46 PM »
In this case, it's a kit put on a new Special.

Yep. It's a 2016 V7 Special with aluminum flyscreen, side panels, and Arrow Exhaust out of the accessories catalog.



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Re: V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2015, 10:43:53 PM »
I'd say the V7 II Scramler ABS is definitely a new model.

The new V7 II Racer is also on the U.S. website.  I like the brushed metal tank, but don't really like the red section at the end of the tank. The 7's on the number plates are now gone.



More subdued.  I like it!
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Re: V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2015, 06:47:12 AM »
The way it's listed in the MG USA website, it sure looks like a new 2016 model, retailed at $10,990.
But, if you look at the brochure within the website, it could be a 2015 "kit" !?!?
May be a "dealer" would know.......

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Re: V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2015, 07:23:55 AM »
We haven't heard yet on this model.  If it were a kit it would have the different shocks in the kit. The model shown has production line crap.
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Re: V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2015, 08:02:56 AM »
I'd say the V7 II Scramler ABS is definitely a new model.

The new V7 II Racer is also on the U.S. website.  I like the brushed metal tank, but don't really like the red section at the end of the tank. The 7's on the number plates are now gone.



I like that!  Almost enough to consider trading in my '10 Café Classic.  Then I can get the Café fairing that I can't get for my bike since I missed the time frame it was built.
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Re: V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2015, 08:05:46 AM »
It has scrambler type tires.

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Re: V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2015, 08:09:27 AM »
Not Bad!



http://www.motoguzzi-us.com/motorcycles/v7-ii-scrambler-abs.html

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Re: V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2015, 08:18:33 AM »
Needs Scrambler style foot pegs for better grip with Adventure boots.

They're in the catalog...

http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idProduct=75540

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Re: V7 II Scrambler
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Re: V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2015, 08:26:00 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crraipl6BKQ

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Re: V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2015, 08:32:05 AM »
Essentially they've scrapped the 'Special' designation and replaced it with 'Scrambler'.  It's essentially a Special with scrambler pipes and a couple little extra bits as far as I can tell.  We don't have them in quite yet to see in person but it's essentially like ordering a Special and a scrambler kit (automatically).  That said it's a pretty cool move on their part.  It (finally) differentiates the Special line from the Stone line in a meaningful way (beyond paint and tires). 

As far as the Racer goes, I like the new look.  Looking forward to seeing it in person.
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Re: V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2015, 08:41:53 AM »
Essentially they've scrapped the 'Special' designation and replaced it with 'Scrambler'.  It's essentially a Special with scrambler pipes and a couple little extra bits as far as I can tell.  We don't have them in quite yet to see in person but it's essentially like ordering a Special and a scrambler kit (automatically).  That said it's a pretty cool move on their part.  It (finally) differentiates the Special line from the Stone line in a meaningful way (beyond paint and tires). 

As far as the Racer goes, I like the new look.  Looking forward to seeing it in person.

Interesting. 

http://www.motoguzzi-us.com/motorcycles/v7-ii-scrambler-abs.html

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Re: V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2015, 08:58:32 AM »
It sure seems as though the boys in Mandello are listening. We have many folks on this forum that have begged for dropping the 7s, chrome tank etc. from the Racer and those that wanted a Scrambler option, they've checked those 2 boxes. Now for that extra 10 hp...

As for me, I like my 7s and my chromium tank so, ya'll go ahead buy one of them there new models.
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Re: V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2015, 09:03:03 AM »
It appears from from a little searching that the V7 II Special Scrambler is a USA only creation.

 
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Re: V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2015, 09:43:12 AM »

Assuming one can turn the ABS off if really "scrambling." 

DNK impact of TC on roads such as Wayne likes, but is that also something that one can disable if desired?

Actually, think I'd go for the basic model, but this is interesting ... if a bit pricey for a"looks" change, IMO.

OTOH, I'm not (yet) a serious buyer, but the local roads and paved and unpaved cowpaths around here make a V7 a likely addition to the Hagan harem.  :wink:

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Re: 2016 V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2015, 03:17:06 PM »
Something else to consider; BMW is coming out with a scrambler & cafe racer version of it's tempting R Nine T which is supposed to be cheaper than the R Nine T.  This likely put's the more powerful BMW relatively close in price to this MG Scrambler - but with ~100 rear wheel HP.  However cool it may be, might make this new v7 scrambler a tough sell when compared to the competition.

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Re: 2016 V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2015, 03:26:43 PM »
The $9290 Special has been named Scrambler in The USA and has been given a $10990 price tag.

If you go to the accessories catalog and price the exhaust, flyscreen, side covers, and whatever other bits have been added to the Special, it's probably not out of line.

The R9T is a $15000 motorcycle and is pretty basic.  I don't know how BMW can sell them much cheaper with Scrambler bits added.  There's nothing to take off of a basic R9T.

Also, keep in mind that all the Scrambler accessories will fit previous year V7s.  You could buy a leftover 2014 V7 Special for $6290+ right now, and spend the $3000 in customer cash on blinging it out with Scrambler stuff.

There are some great fenders and fender supports in the catalog.  Longer shocks.  And other bits, too.  Not to mention the shown aluminum flyscreen and side covers.

As for scrambler exhaust, Arrow is not the only game.  Both Agositni and Mistral have a couple choices on 2:1 and 2:2 systems.

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Re: 2016 V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2015, 03:35:18 PM »
Something else; about that exhaust..I wonder if it's a freer flowing version - a version that will let a little more of that beautiful exhaust note out - for our continued listening pleasure.  I suspect not if it's coming from the factory.  It remains to be seen what the pricing is going to look like on the new bmw's as nothing official has been released yet - I'm all ears/eyes though, as I'm in the market for a new bike; a bike that can accommodate a passenger every now and again, and as much as I love/lust after a v7, ~100 hp would be a lot nicer than ~50 hp when me bloody Wife wants to go for a ride.

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Re: 2016 V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2015, 03:39:39 PM »


Also, keep in mind that all the Scrambler accessories will fit previous year V7s.  You could buy a leftover 2014 V7 Special for $6290+ right now, and spend the $3000 in customer cash on blinging it out with Scrambler stuff.

There are some great fenders and fender supports in the catalog.  Longer shocks.  And other bits, too.  Not to mention the shown aluminum flyscreen and side covers.


This ^^^  But...If I were in the market for a modern scrambler I think I'd be heading up to my local Ducati dealer, I think their versions of the scrambler are closer to the real deal right off the showroom floor.
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Re: 2016 V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2015, 03:44:29 PM »
I came here because my only remaining local Ducati dealer screwed up my 5700 mile, pristine Ducati ST3 when I brought it in for it's 6k service.  I'd be on a new Monster right now if it weren't for this.  I have a Guzzi dealer very close by and made the mistake of riding a '16 v7 - didn't think I'd like it as it is rated at ~50hp, but I was pleasantly surprised at how much fun that test ride was, LOL.  It's a disease I tell you.

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This ^^^  But...If I were in the market for a modern scrambler I think I'd be heading up to my local Ducati dealer, I think their versions of the scrambler are closer to the real deal right off the showroom floor.

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Re: 2016 V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2015, 03:51:49 PM »
  my only remaining local Ducati dealer screwed up my 5700 mile, pristine Ducati ST3 when I brought it in for it's 6k service.   

A little off topic, but what did they do to It?  Tear up the plastic, or screw up the valve adjustment?
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Re: 2016 V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2015, 03:54:27 PM »
Hi Rocker,

Here ye is:  http://www.ducati.ms/forums/40-sport-touring/432666-st3-gurus-whats-wrong-bike.html

Page 6 of the thread is where it gets interesting.

I hope it's ok to link from another forum.

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Re: 2016 V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2015, 04:01:29 PM »
I will never understand the scrambler obsession. No matter the brand they are the ugliest thing I have ever seen.... But maybe it's just me.  :boozing:
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Re: 2016 V7 II Scrambler
« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2015, 05:40:23 PM »
There's 10-15 more hp to be had, but you'll have to check your heads at the door.  Coming soon (hopefully).  :drool:
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