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Motorcycle Consumer News recorded the top speed of the 2-valve Griso at 129.3 mph (208 kph), not the 112 mph (180 kph) you pulled out of your derriere. The 4-valve went 143.95 mph (231.6 kph). Moto
So even the 4 valve is barely faster than a 20year old 1100 sport.
Back to my question, How fast would a Guzzi have to go to hand a can of Ass Whoop to a used R6 , street legal or not ?
IMHO you won't ever get there with a sreetable Guzzi. Most well cared for 600cc sport bikes can top 150 mph. One set up for track days will top 160 mph.
A stock R6 will run 160 MPH , maybe even a little faster . Dusty
For anyone interested this months (UK )Bike magazine has a road test of the new R6 and a article on buying a used Griso 1200 8V .Basically they say the latest R6 is so track day focused most people would not enjoy riding it on the road unless they had owned a high performance two stroke.The article on the 1200 Griso doesn't make comfortable reading for a potential buyer. The guy that wrote it owns a Guzzi shop specialising in pre-2000 models.http://www.motoguzzisales.co.uk/Some of the things he mentions as potential problems I have not heard of before. Here is the list:Air filter. Small foam strips come loose and get stuck in the throttle bodies.Battery. Terminals corrode.Cam Followers. Enough said.Engine oil. Only use SG 10/60.Oxygen sensor. Mis-threaded by the factory.Drive box bearings. Failure on early models.Clutch judder. Common but not serious.Fuelling. Poor factory mapping.Rough idle in cold weather.Plug caps. OE caps are poor quality.The magazine specs include 144mph top speed and a 8/10 rating.
.....Basically they say the latest R6 is so track day focused most people would not enjoy riding it on the road unless they had owned a high performance two stroke......
That's interestingA number of years ago I read an article where a magazine took the latest Japanese sports bike of the time and one one of the previous years model which had less stratospheric power numbers but more torque and dressed them up to look the same and let various people ride them.IIRC everyone preferred the more road "usable" machine
The Griso 1100 is a nice motorcycle ...
Needs more valves...(apparently..)
When did anyone say that?
No, the 8V isn't a lot faster but it will get you there a lot quicker!Pete
The whole thing is a huge, boiling pit of ignorant, uninformed arse! I break wind not just in their general direction but copiously and lavishly directly at them!Pete
I guess I missed where the OP said he wanted his Griso to be faster than a R6. The way I read his posts, he just enjoys a project.
I think a number of people here haven't gone near a modern sports bike in the last 10-15 years and are not across the quantum leap in performance that has occoured in that time.
I guess I missed where the OP said he wanted his Griso to be faster than a R6. The way I read his posts, he just enjoys a project. The Griso happens to be what he's fiddling with. I had a lot of fun messing with my 1200 Sport and eventually saw a GPS verified 138mph top end. Is that fast? Not really. It is for a Guzzi though. It's also fast if you have a get-off and are bouncing down the road. Anyway, why second guess the OP? It's like you guys are criticizing him for liking a particular flavor of ice cream. Not everyone has to like vanilla and if he prefers pistachio let him. You should be thanking him. Anyone interested in tweaking their Guzzi should be happy for this thread. He's going step by step and testing each modification on a dyno. Not only that, he's testing it on the same dyno each time. He's doing this right. He's documenting it the most scientific way you can and he's sharing the information freely. He's like the anti-Todd Eagan. He's not hitting you up for money and he's not bullshitting anyone.
I don't think anyone else is under the impression that the OP wanted wants his Griso to be faster than an R6. I appreciate what he`s doing and wrote there`s some more power available. Another poster or two writes that these engines are clapped out as is and that "nothing could be done to make any Guzzi that would make it faster than a $4k R6 " , totally different subject , and an untrue statement. There are Guzzis that have been timed in the 160`s, 170`s and even over 180 mph. I enjoyed the snot out of my Griso 1100 , it had about perfect balance and was one of the easiest and fun Guzzis ever imho.