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Re: What's the deal with black?
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2021, 04:42:07 AM »


Quote from: Mayor_of_BBQ on May 19, 2021, 12:14:33 PM
Ya'll telling me WHITE is more visible than my ugly loud Shoei???  Oh no! Thats the only reason I settled on this color!

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Re: What's the deal with black?
« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2021, 05:40:46 AM »
Unfortunately I am constrained by jacket size and colors other than black aren't available in all sizes.

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You too big or too small? Or looking at closeouts?!?

Jenn wore her Ducati mesh yesterday and I mentioned this thread to her when I realized it was black. I asked if she's ever too hot in it. The answer was no. But we can't say if that's cause she tends to avoid super hot days or if the physics of the outer layer heating up in the sun doesn't seem to matter when air is flowing through it.

I'm still with you and would prefer other than black, but maybe it's not a death sentence if you can't get anything else.
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Re: What's the deal with black?
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2021, 08:03:05 AM »
You too big or too small? Or looking at closeouts?!?

Jenn wore her Ducati mesh yesterday and I mentioned this thread to get when I realized it was black. I asked if she's ever too hot in it. The answer was no. But we can't say if that's cause she tends to avoid super hot days or if the physics of the outer layer heating up in the sun doesn't seem to matter when air is flowing through it.

I'm still with you and would prefer other than black, but maybe it's not a death sentence if you can't get anything else.

I need as large as possible. My experience in GA says that black does get hot  :grin:

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Re: What's the deal with black?
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2021, 08:13:41 AM »
if you ride in winter you appreciate black ,
any other color will soon be close to black if you ride all year round.

we have loads of rain and salty roads during the winter, unless you want to wash your motorcycle gear every week during the four month winter period, it makes no sense to buy a light colored jacket.
just depends on local climate and riding habits.

the helmet is another matter , I never had a black helmet, but i wouldnt hesitate to buy one if it was the best choice.
if on a motorcycle you rely on being visible for your safety, you are taking a huge risk.
my riding instructor taught me to consider yourself invisible when riding a bike....

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Re: What's the deal with black?
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2021, 08:13:41 AM »

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Re: What's the deal with black?
« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2021, 10:08:03 AM »
Well I spoke too soon. There must be a Great American Jacket Shortage because I can't even find a black jacket. Been looking at FirstGear Kilimanjaro or Kathmandu or Tourmaster Transition and they are sold out or backordered into late June or July everywhere I go. I knew we had a chip shortage but textile jackets too? Amazing.

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Re: What's the deal with black?
« Reply #35 on: May 28, 2021, 12:47:12 PM »
I've been happy with my IXS jacket I got on Amazon for $69. Well made,
Lots of Color options, 3 layers, full armor. Very comparable
To the Kili. 

Sizing is wacko. I normally wear large, but 2xl is a bit tight
And 3xl is perfect for extra layers.
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Re: What's the deal with black?
« Reply #36 on: May 28, 2021, 12:50:07 PM »
Well I spoke too soon. There must be a Great American Jacket Shortage because I can't even find a black jacket. Been looking at FirstGear Kilimanjaro or Kathmandu or Tourmaster Transition and they are sold out or backordered into late June or July everywhere I go. I knew we had a chip shortage but textile jackets too? Amazing.

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Have you considered the big hitters? Klim (via Revzilla) or Stich (direct)?!?

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Bet they're in stock too.
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Re: What's the deal with black?
« Reply #37 on: May 28, 2021, 01:13:11 PM »
According to Aerostitch's sizing page, they don't even make my size. Klim lists a 4X and a 5X in their sizing chart but have zero stock on their website or any of the online retailers. I've tried about a dozen different sites, a variety of brands including those 2. Like I said, it's as if there is a great shortage out there.

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Re: What's the deal with black?
« Reply #38 on: May 28, 2021, 02:19:34 PM »
Stitch will custom make one for you.
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Re: What's the deal with black?
« Reply #39 on: May 28, 2021, 03:56:27 PM »
According to Aerostitch's sizing page, they don't even make my size. Klim lists a 4X and a 5X in their sizing chart but have zero stock on their website or any of the online retailers. I've tried about a dozen different sites, a variety of brands including those 2. Like I said, it's as if there is a great shortage out there.

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Re: What's the deal with black?
« Reply #40 on: May 28, 2021, 10:41:12 PM »
I've been happy with my IXS Mondevo jacket I got on Amazon a couple years ago for $69. Well made,
Lots of Color options, 3 layers, full armor. Very comparable
To my 12 year old 1st Gear Kilimanjaro.

Sizing is wacko. I normally wear large, but 2xl is a bit tight
And 3xl is perfect for extra layers.
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Re: What's the deal with black?
« Reply #41 on: May 28, 2021, 11:39:00 PM »


Hey thanks for that. That IXS jacket I don't think with work for me but I never thought to check Amazon for a jacket. Lo and behold they have a Tourmaster Transitions jacket in the Gray/Black/Hi Viz yellow and one size larger than what I tried on in the store. So fingers crossed, hopefully it fits. If not I got Amazon's return policy working for me. Things might be looking up!

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Re: What's the deal with black?
« Reply #42 on: May 29, 2021, 08:03:41 AM »
Hey thanks for that. That IXS jacket I don't think with work for me but I never thought to check Amazon for a jacket. Lo and behold they have a Tourmaster Transitions jacket in the Gray/Black/Hi Viz yellow and one size larger than what I tried on in the store. So fingers crossed, hopefully it fits. If not I got Amazon's return policy working for me. Things might be looking up!

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Re: What's the deal with black?
« Reply #43 on: May 29, 2021, 08:38:18 AM »
If you’re hard to fit, as I am (6’6”) it’s quite difficult to find anything but black in most riding gear.   I looked at practically every brand available for a Tall xL/xLL in anything but black and simply could not source one.  A handful of mfg claim to make them but no body had stock.
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Re: What's the deal with black?
« Reply #44 on: June 02, 2021, 02:21:45 PM »
Stitch will custom make one for you.

Nope. I reached out to them. They will tailor a jacket of the rack for you.
But if you don't fit in something off the rack, they won't custom build a jacket.

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Re: What's the deal with black?
« Reply #45 on: June 02, 2021, 02:26:24 PM »
Winner winner chicken dinner!

I can't believe all the places I looked I end up having to order from Amazon . I never would have guessed.

So for closure, I think this Tourmaster Transitions is going to work.
Have to remove both inner liners.
A little more snug than my old Kilimanjaro and I think not as long, but doable.
I thought it would zip to my Tourmaster pants but there's no zipper at the bottom of the jacket.
Not necessary though.

Still mostly black dammit. I just don't get the manufacturing logic on that.

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Re: What's the deal with black?
« Reply #46 on: June 03, 2021, 04:23:32 PM »
All of my helmets have been white, for the last 70+ years.
my last purchase, 2 years ago was a Klim. Modular, not too heavy, very quick changing, drop-down glare reducer screen, quick release.

BEWARE: Klim helmet shells contract when they are in temps of ~75*F. and above.
BEWARE II: klim helmets also contract when temps are in the ~30*F and colder.

Weird for certain. Klim has ignored my several emails and hard copy pleas for an acknowledgement.

I wear an extra large. Without changing the temp around me there have been times when I've not been strong enough to pull the straps open to get my head out. I'd enjoy knowing the shell materials that behave thus - and the dumb ass/asses that let it happen.  R3~

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Re: What's the deal with black?
« Reply #47 on: June 04, 2021, 08:37:53 AM »
Wearing a hi-viz yellow vest over my black jacket does the job for me.

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Re: What's the deal with black?
« Reply #48 on: June 04, 2021, 10:41:29 AM »
Nope. I reached out to them. They will tailor a jacket of the rack for you.
But if you don't fit in something off the rack, they won't custom build a jacket.

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Well little fella, we've had this discussion before! I feel your pain at 6'7" and now 300.

I have my 'stitch Darien suit for my touring days.

Locally on Marketplace, I actually found a Harley leather jacket that apparently is a tall size as it fits my arms and body well. The body length extend below the belt by a couple inches in the seated position. I think I paid $150 4+ years ago for and "official" Harley jacket made in Indonesia.

I do need a new helmet, and even my L or XL sizes are limited in availability.

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Re: What's the deal with black?
« Reply #49 on: June 04, 2021, 03:13:42 PM »
^^^^^ Hiya Gary.. how you doing, pal? It's been a while.
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Re: What's the deal with black?
« Reply #50 on: June 04, 2021, 07:28:11 PM »
What's the deal with black?


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