Author Topic: Bezzi / Barr Photoshop Phantasy Pthreadfest (Read 73825 times)

Seagondollar · « **on:** May 25, 2009, 07:37:26 PM »

Looks like Oberdan Bezzi is doing Guzzis. This one apparently 8V Griso and 1200 Sport based.

cdkrall · « **Reply #1 on:** May 25, 2009, 08:08:05 PM »

That one has a nice lightness about it. A bit close to the Mana and Shiver.

kenebar · « **Reply #2 on:** May 25, 2009, 09:03:49 PM »

Looks OK. Breva tank on a Griso frame. Tail in the air like a bitch on heat. New headlight. Nice paint job.

BUT, same long wheel-base and suspension and same fugly can as Griso.

Photo shop? If it's not it should be. :-\

Sluggo · « **Reply #3 on:** May 25, 2009, 10:09:46 PM »

Wasn't Drago the Soviet boxer that Rocky whipped in Rocky IV? Those were the days when Brigitte Nielsen was HOT. :o

As for the photoshopped Guzzi above. The back end is goofed up. If you going to go racer bike with a Griso frame, at least go dual-high mount exhaust and kill that dang monster can!

Wildguzzi.com · « **Reply #3 on:** May 25, 2009, 10:09:46 PM »

gargoyle · « **Reply #4 on:** May 26, 2009, 12:47:34 AM »

Quote from: kenebar on May 25, 2009, 09:03:49 PM

Tail in the air like a bitch on heat.

same fugly can as Griso.

Those two have got to go especially the tail end. The aftermarket will fix the can. Can you imagine somebody actually riding as a passenger on that? :o

Spaceclam · « **Reply #5 on:** May 26, 2009, 09:37:16 AM »

ugly

ugly

ugly

Old yaler · « **Reply #6 on:** May 26, 2009, 10:46:36 AM »

Quote from: gargoyle on May 26, 2009, 12:47:34 AM

Quote from: kenebar on May 25, 2009, 09:03:49 PM
Tail in the air like a bitch on heat.

same fugly can as Griso.

Those two have got to go especially the tail end. The aftermarket will fix the can. Can you imagine somebody actually riding as a passenger on that? :o

The rider's seat doesn't look too comfy either.

Aaron · « **Reply #7 on:** May 26, 2009, 10:56:08 AM »

The Yamaha R1 is great machine as is. Why would you chop the tank and tail and put in on a griso V8. certainly not for more power, higher top speed or better handling??????

So as usually it must be just to do it. Personally if I have both bikes I'd leave'em stock ride the tires to the metal.

rocker59 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 26, 2009, 02:12:05 PM »

Quote from: Seagondollar on May 25, 2009, 07:37:26 PM

Looks like Oberdan Bezzi is doing Guzzis.

Nope.

Just playing moto designer on his Mac, Photochopping bits and pieces from various bikes together...

::)

My $.02:

I really tire of seeing these Oberdan Bezzi fantasy Photoshop creations being trotted out in threads as being "the next Guzzi"...

Most of his "designs" really suck. On many levels. Anyone with basic skilz could produce this crapola and post it up on some website...

I just wish he'd fade away, maybe sleep at a Holiday Inn Express rather than playing moto designer...

Sorry... I just had to chime in...

I yield the floor...

:-\

rjwinz · « **Reply #9 on:** May 26, 2009, 02:23:03 PM »

Quote from: rocker59 on May 26, 2009, 02:12:05 PM

My $.02:

I really tire of seeing these Oberdan Bezzi fantasy Photoshop creations being trotted out in threads as being "the next Guzzi"...

Most of his "designs" really suck. On many levels. Anyone with basic skilz could produce this crapola and post it up on some website...

I just wish he'd fade away, maybe sleep at a Holiday Inn Express rather than playing moto designer...

Sorry... I just had to chime in...

I yield the floor...

:-\

And on that note, here is another one: http://www.motorcycledaily.com/19may09_sharperkatana.htm

:D

Seagondollar · « **Reply #10 on:** May 26, 2009, 04:24:13 PM »

Sounds like some people think he's an untalented Hack. I can think of several other designers in that league.

http://www.alphaomegadigital.com/oberdanbezzi/

http://www.coroflot.com/public/individual_work.asp?individual_id=64595&is_featured=-1&

I like it more than I do the Breva. (that's gonna cause some revolt)

rocker59 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 26, 2009, 04:40:01 PM »

Quote from: Seagondollar on May 26, 2009, 04:24:13 PM

Sounds like some people think he's an untalented Hack. I can think of several other designers in that league.

http://www.alphaomegadigital.com/oberdanbezzi/

http://www.coroflot.com/public/individual_work.asp?individual_id=64595&is_featured=-1&

I like it more than I do the Breva. (that's gonna cause some revolt)

He's an artist, not a motorcycle designer...

It's my personal opinion, but I think most of his motorcycle renderings are simply hack jobs...

That's not taking anything away from other aspects of his "business" or his "art"...

I just don't think he's "got it" when it comes to moto design...

pauldaytona · « **Reply #12 on:** May 26, 2009, 05:02:51 PM »

>Sounds like some people think he's an untalented Hack

Yes I'm one of them. He is good with the computer, but the designs are always just wrong. And then all websites show it as if it is a real study or prototype. :-(

Karl Von · « **Reply #13 on:** May 26, 2009, 06:09:56 PM »

His Moto Morini 9 1/2 is very nice.

I hear that since HD owns Cagiva, they will bring the new Morini's into the US.

pauldaytona · « **Reply #14 on:** May 26, 2009, 06:13:44 PM »

Quote from: Karl Von on May 26, 2009, 06:09:56 PM

Cagiva, they will bring the new Morini's into the US.

I might have missed something, but Morini has nothing with Cagiva.

Karl Von · « **Reply #15 on:** May 26, 2009, 06:34:45 PM »

I know they used to be under the cagiva umbrelia but I guess they sold them a while back. I thought the Cagiva Raptor & Morini shared the same motors.

From a Cagiva history site:
In 1983 Cagiva signed an exclusive deal with Ducati for obtaining some of their four strokes engines. By doing so they entered the large displacement market borrowing 350cc to 1000cc Ducati engines. In the following years, the Cagiva company started buying out their competitors who were undergoing financial problems: Ducati, Moto Morini and Husqvarna. In 1986 another company was formed, called Cagiva Commerciale S.p.A having as its main objective the sale of Cagiva, Ducati, Husqvarna and Moto Morini bikes.

Due to their excellent racing record, in 1991, Cagiva bought out MV Agusta but for some unknown reason they decided to sell both Ducati and Moto Morin 5 years later in 1996.

Mojo · « **Reply #16 on:** May 26, 2009, 06:44:48 PM »

Quote from: Seagondollar on May 25, 2009, 07:37:26 PM

Looks like Oberdan Bezzi is doing Guzzis. This one apparently 8V Griso and 1200 Sport based.

Guzzi Monster...no thanks

pauldaytona · « **Reply #17 on:** May 26, 2009, 06:58:15 PM »

well then they owned Morini at the time they didn't make bikes. Morini is owned by the Morini family again. Although I heard it was for sale. Engine is a Morini design. Morini makes also for a long time small 2 stroke engines, used in scooters. Morini Franco Motori. They also build the 3 cil new Benelli engine.
The new range is designed by Luciano Marabese , the same who designs most newer guzzis.

Travman · « **Reply #18 on:** July 10, 2009, 02:23:39 PM »

With the Mandello plant closing, will all future Guzzis be facelifted Aprillias?

http://motosketches.blogspot.com/2009/06/moto-guzzi-scr-750-e-di-una-versione.html

rocker59 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 10, 2009, 02:36:04 PM »

Who knows?

One thing is for sure, though...

Oberdan Bezzi will not have anything to do with it...

Travman · « **Reply #20 on:** July 10, 2009, 02:44:11 PM »

Quote from: rocker59 on July 10, 2009, 02:36:04 PM

One thing is for sure, though...

Oberdan Bezzi will not have anything to do with it...

Do you dislike Oberdan Bezzi's concepts? For all I know, he may not even be a designer. He may be just some guy who likes drawing motocycles with good Photoshop skills. However, I'd take him over Pierre Terblanche.

rocker59 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 10, 2009, 02:55:42 PM »

Quote from: Travman on July 10, 2009, 02:44:11 PM

For all I know, he may not even be a designer. He may be just some guy who likes drawing motocycles with good Photoshop skills.

Bingo!

It's not that I don't like some of his PS skliz, it's that he's just some artist d00d who has friends that put his "concepts" in articles in ways that make the uninitiated think the renderings are something other than pure armchair fantasy...

zeta · « **Reply #22 on:** July 10, 2009, 03:11:56 PM »

Looks like a great bike to me, and I bet for a 750 it isn't underpowered ;)

Pfaff! · « **Reply #23 on:** July 10, 2009, 03:22:58 PM »

Quote from: Travman on July 10, 2009, 02:44:11 PM

For all I know, he may not even be a designer.

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Il mio vero nome (in basso a destra nei disegni) è infatti OBERDAN BEZZI , designer di motociclette per professione e soprattutto per passione.

My real name (bottom right in the drawings) is Oberdan BEZZI, motorcycle designer by profession and especially passion.

That, of course, is his own statement.

This design doesn't appeal to me, but the Shiver does.

Travman · « **Reply #24 on:** July 10, 2009, 04:16:24 PM »

As long as he puts his name on his drawings people will know they are just his concepts. It is the speculative websites which suggest these concepts are real models. Anyone who reads the magazines and websites you can tell what is real, what is a possibility, and what has no chance at production.

ronjon · « **Reply #25 on:** November 02, 2009, 09:03:28 PM »

I love the scrambler. I wonder how many of the scramblers Triumph sold last year? Anyways, I like this modern Guzzi scrambler better. The red Instinct is cool too. Do the gas tanks remind you of the sportster tank?

philp · « **Reply #26 on:** November 02, 2009, 09:10:11 PM »

That design looks OK ;-T Where does the exhaust go on the red one? To the left side somewhere, I guess.

But the yellow... Besides being a really ugly can on the yellow one, I imagine the location of the exhaust pipe would cook up your leg pretty well - even with that cute little heat shield.

Seagondollar · « **Reply #27 on:** November 02, 2009, 09:44:32 PM »

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Where does the exhaust go on the red one?

Look through the spokes, just above the CARC.

nowgrn4 · « **Reply #28 on:** November 02, 2009, 09:57:28 PM »

Obviously being a Q owner my taste in bikes is not mainstream.If these 2 examples are indicative of Guzzi's new offerings then heaven help them.The coffin tank and chintzy V-Max scoops?

Tell me this is just a photo shop exercise gone horribly bad. :-[

Turin · « **Reply #29 on:** November 02, 2009, 10:20:27 PM »

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Tell me this is just a photo shop exercise gone horribly bad.

Same photochop you always see on "raptors n rockets" or whatever it's called. None of these ever come to fruition.

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Author Topic: Bezzi / Barr Photoshop Phantasy Pthreadfest (Read 73825 times)

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