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Because they are both higher HP, < 1200cc, OHC (I assume), water-cooled, 60° twins...more in common with a V-Rod then.
Surely you jest. It has little in common with the V-Rod. More to the point, I believe it is safe to say that Polaris is targeting the Sportster, a bike that actually sells in numbers. The Scout is only 1130 cc while the Rod is 1250. The angle of the cylinder comparison is a stretch at best. The V-Rod weighs 100+ pounds more and costs 50% more (approx. $15K). Polaris is not targeting the V-Rod. The Sportster however is comparable in weight and price point. In my opinion, the Indian package is a very real and compelling alternative to the Sporty.
Dude, really...look, it's obvious THEY are targeting the Sportster because haven't the literally stated that in the press release.But as a four time Sportster owner I'm telling you that the cubic centimeter similarity is FAR less important than the cooling system, plus power-to-weight ratio, plus valve train, plus basic ergos/frame geometry.Don't get me wrong, in the BIG picture there's no reason the Harley Street shouldn't eventually take over the position of the Sportster, and when that happens when should see more performance out of it..closer to this.Bit till that happens the VRod is closer mechanically/technically (and customer base) than the Sportster is (which is closer in size, and price range).That said, I see your comparison, I just think they're stretching it.
so it's a new motor too? it certainly is not as elegant looking as the 111..
I do wish Polaris (Victory) well with their new Indian lines of bikes. However, I have yet to see an Indian in the flesh. Are they not selling many of them?
I stopped by the local Indian dealer a couple of weeks ago, and I think they are selling all they can get--which still isn't many. Up close they look very nice; the fit and finish is excellent. The "Classic" (the one with the least amount of leather fringe) is the best looking one.
The fringe, I hear, is attached by Velcro and removable.
I wonder if there'll be a velcro attached faux kick starter in the future.
I think this screen shot from the video shows it is surprisingly like the original Indian scout in its profile:Notice the foot-forward postion is the same on both bikes, the fenders are somewhat subdued copies of the profiles of the originals, and the mystery of the rake of the rear shock is explained as a way to mimic the rigid frame of the original. The headlights are similar too.Looking at the new bike from other angles makes it seem quite squared off and different from the older one.
What gives the old Scout that 'retro' look is the angle of the rider's arms--elbows low and closer to the body than the modern motorcycle. Like a bus driver. As old school cool as that looks, it would be a hassle to handle the bike in day to day riding.
Hardly the same thing. There's nothing disingenuous about a removable styling feature like fringe. Certainly that's not the bike pretending to be something it is not.
"I wonder if there'll be a velcro attached faux kick starter in the future."Nope, you're right Kev... it doesn't smack of the disingenuousness of a fake starter.I should have found a more direct comparison to a whore's fake eye lashes. ~;
Good article. Again, the business-end of the Scout is more comparable to the V Rod than the Sportster. The styling cues are different, though.You really can't fairly compare the performance of a liquid-cooled, 4-valve, 60 degree twin to that of an air-cooled, pushrod, 2-valve, 90 degree twin.I like the Scout but it scratches a different itch than does the Sportster (which I've never owned).