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Just curious why are you not considering an 8V? They are going relatively cheap used and have many improvements over the previous generation?GliderJohn
Forgot to ask, what changes/updates were needed on early Norge's other then the fuel pump/hose issue? I had two 2007's. The first one ran great with only a ECU reflash and Bui (sp?) risers. I can't remember what other issues we had with those early 2V bikes?
Yeah, I'm perfectly OK with mine except for the heat management but if I was buying again I'd go for an 8V. Mileage isn't as good on the newer ones, but I'd trade that out for not getting cooked in the summertime.
I never had heat problems with either of my 07's. Are you saying the 8V is worse on mileage?
Just curious what they are selling for versus the early models? What were the improvements?
I'm looking for a well sorted black 2008 or later, 2V engine. Please PM me.ThanksJerry
Quote from Jerryd:Okay the bad news first, mileage is poorer. I pretty much average around 36-38mpg. Good news and others help me here as I will probably forget somethingAt least in my case the 8V engine is a sweetheart. Great torque, revs easily, smooth, good fuel mapping.Better suspension.Better seat.Better dash placement to reduce glare and easier to read.Better fairing.Better engine heat to rider management.Higher and more pulled back handlebars.Easier access to the oil dipstick.I did replace the stock windscreen with a larger Cal/Sci just for more protection. No buffeting issues or anything with the stock screen. I have had mine up to 140mph indicated with side bags and top case on, rock solid!Hope this helps.GliderJohn
So, what seems to be the going price?
I also know someone who has a Hyperpro shock and YSS springs/emulators out of his '07 Norge for sale, right now. That could easily overcome the weakest point on a first-year Norge. :beat_horse ;DShaunEdit: The suspension parts are NOT mine, just to be clear.
From my experience looking at Norges, the going price is around 5-6k for a good example with less than 20k miles. That is with luggage.I do appreciate the Breva's ability to keep my feet warm when the temp is cold out. I will not appreciate it's ability to keep my feet hot when it warms up a a bit. This is something that the 8V Norges will not have.
Are you saying 5-6K for an 8V? Where?
If you find one without the bar risers, let me know. I have a set I took off my Breva if you are interested. I, myself really enjoy the two valve motor of this ilk. I think they are the best of the best two valvers out there. I must be a little bit old school since I am waiting to buy a four valver once they have a few years under their belt to prove themselves. (It has been, what, six years now?) Skippy
I have not seen that low a price for an 8v, and I have seen several. I recently sold my brother's 2012 for him. Suspect low for one is 8 and up, with the mode being higher.Winchester Motosports has one on consignment at just below 8."2012 Moto Guzzi Norge 1100 (sic; it's a 1200); Priced to sell - well below book! Factory hard bags included. Fresh service. $7,995.00." Contact info here: http://www.winchestermotosports.com.I have no connection with the actual seller, but I like Carl and crew at WMS.BillI had a 2007 Norge which I loved but sold 2 yrs ago. I also had a 2007 Sprint which I also loved but sold to buy a 2011 BMW K1300s. It's a great bike but I find myself missing the more visceral feel of twins and triples and so have been looking at different bikes including an 8V Norge. The bike that Bill listed at winchester is the cheapest 8V I've seen listed. Most used 2011-2013 seem to fall between $8,900 - $11,000. Seen several 07-08 in the $5,000-$6,000 range. And of course Crusty is virtually giving away his 07. National Powersports in New Hampshire has a Black 08 Norge listed on ebay right now, but I think their price is a bit ambitious.
Go 8V. Fueling can be sorted. Stock economy can be improved on considerably for the reasons covered in another thread.The 8V is a lovely thing and doesn't feel breathless and asthmatic like the last of the 2V motors due to their smaller throttle bodies which strangle them at the top end.Pete
Well, a lot of opinions about the 4V versus 8V models! I'm getting confused ???Personally, I never had any issues with either of my 2007's. Especially the first one I bought new after trading in my Griso. It was completely stock other then bar risers. It was far from "breathless" Ask the officer who stopped me in on the Interstate in Arizona coming back from the Nationals in Malibu, and clocked me at 124, and I easily had more room to go!It does seem though that the 8V has some other attributes I need to investigate. Hopefully they will have a demo bike at Bike Week when I go up tomorrow.
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