H4 type LED headlight bulb...Anyone try one of these?

[Birch71]

If I'm stuck in traffic, of its a really hot day, my "high beam" indicator flips on.

Is the relay catching the extra draw from a fan in the light and reporting that to the dash?

I'm electricly stupid, so sorry if I'm using the wrong terms.

[leafman60]

If I'm stuck in traffic, of its a really hot day, my "high beam" indicator flips on.

Is the relay catching the extra draw from a fan in the light and reporting that to the dash?

I'm electricly stupid, so sorry if I'm using the wrong terms.

I cannot explain that.

Usually the high beam is a separate circuit.

Perhaps there is a problem with the bulb and low beam current is somehow shorting over to the high beam connector at the bulb and backfeeding up the high beam circuit and thereby lighting the high beam indicator.

[jas67]

I'd love to see a couple high/low photos if you get the time.

OK -- I'll try to remember to do that when I change it, as I can get both in the same session then.

[Orange Guzzi]

I took a test ride with my new Speedmetal led head light setup.  Base on my real world experience, the headlight worked exceptionally well.  From my riding perspective the lighting is much better than a h4 bulb.   While driving my car with some one driving towards me  and riding behind me on the bike, the light is not glaring or blinding.
 Others have voice their opinion regarding these lights as being glaring or assumed that it is something that it is not. Kinda like my kid telling me she does not like a certain food because someone else did not.   They are entitled to their opinion, but experience is a real test.  As far as being approved by a government agent, who cares.  Its not unapproved either.  Those that want to throw out that kind of argument are acting like an 8th grade bully behind a computer screen in some far off land.  I hate Alaska and everything about it, but I never been there.  

[rodekyll]

I love being 'insulted' by folks who can't put a verb in a sentence.  It make me wonder how he knows what an 8th grade bully is.  ::)   :D   **C

[Triple Jim]

Update:

I bought a 10w LED and driver circuit through eBay and repaired my Cyclops 20w-30w bulb.  Both an LED emitter and its driver had failed.  I can only assume that the failure of one caused the failure of the other.  I removed the failed emitter from the triangular post and epoxied the new on in the same place.  I then wired around the failed matching driver so the new driver powered the replacement LED.

The result was reasonable, and I put it back in my Mille's headlight bucket.  After another couple hundred miles, another of the original LED emitters started randomly flashing on and off.  Eventually it stayed off.

I ordered a new LED assembly that looked similar to the Cyclops unit from eBay seller "lil.xin", for $13.23, free shipping from China.   When it arrived, I found that it appeared identical in every way I can judge it, other than the power connector.  This includes the "LED" molded into the plastic fan shroud, the current consumption in high and low, and all other dimensions.  It even came with the exact same set of base adapters so it can fit a variety of sockets.  The only difference is it had three bullet connectors instead of the standard 3-blade headlight connector.  I installed the connector from the failed Cyclops assembly and put installed it in my bucket.  It's working fine.

As I posted somewhere before, I do very little night riding, so the headlight is mostly used for daytime visibility to other drivers.  I adjusted the headlight to be bright but not blinding to oncoming traffic when in the low beam mode.  This uses two of the three LED emitters.  I'm hoping that avoiding all three at once, with its reduced heat generation, will result in reasonable bulb life.

[swooshdave]

The guys I ride with on old Brit stuff with questionable alternator capabilities have been switching to the LED H4 bulbs. I have one on my Norton. The first thing I noticed was how different the light was. It's bright and a fierce glow. You also notice that the cagers seem to notice it more too. Which is what I really want out of a light. I'll put one in the Guzzi not because the charging system can't keep up with the halogen, but because I want to be seen.

[jas67]

http://stores.advmonster.com/headlight-replacement/

I have a couple of these on some of my bikes:
http://stores.advmonster.com/h4-mesh-monster-led-headlight/

They work great.

They have a new version that is even better:
http://stores.advmonster.com/h4-r3-led-headlight/

[Triple Jim]

Jas, the ADV Monster version is on my list to try.

[O]

http://stores.advmonster.com/headlight-replacement/

I have a couple of these on some of my bikes:
http://stores.advmonster.com/h4-mesh-monster-led-headlight/

They work great.

They have a new version that is even better:
http://stores.advmonster.com/h4-r3-led-headlight/

Unfortunately, they don't make the original H4 mesh monster anymore.  The newer R3 version won't fit into the V7's headlight bucket because the power supply cord is now routed out the rear of the unit, along with the mesh, so it's slightly too long to fit.  Since the previous version's power supply was routed out the side of the unit, it necessitated less rear clearance.

[swooshdave]

I might try one of these next. Hopefully with the plug coming out the side there should be room.

Astra Depot H4 6000K 9003 HB2 Motorcycle Motorbike Cob LED Headlamp Bulb Kit for Harley Bike Cruiser Bobber Chopper, 24W https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LMEQWMI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_YKDUxb27PH27F

[leafman60]

I've had great luck with the Cyclops H-4 LED's for quite a while now.

[Triple Jim]

I might try one of these next. Hopefully with the plug coming out the side there should be room.

Astra Depot H4 6000K 9003 HB2 Motorcycle Motorbike Cob LED Headlamp Bulb Kit for Harley Bike Cruiser Bobber Chopper, 24W https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LMEQWMI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_YKDUxb27PH27F

If that's not exactly the same as the eBay one I have now, and the failed one I got from Cyclops Adventure Sport, it's darned close.  They're not great for night riding because the low beam doesn't have a cutoff at the top to keep light out of oncoming drivers' eyes.  I find I can adjust the height of mine to look bright but not blinding to other drivers in the daytime, so I rate it "pretty good" for my use.  The next one I get is going to have a real low beam pattern.

[rodekyll]

Those too-long bulbs are going to be a thing, so we're going to need to get used to them.  You can drill out the back of the bucket and fit those long bulbs.  Drilling it might be a good idea anyway, because LED gets very hot to the rear of the module.

[Triple Jim]

The Truck-Lite and its extremely similar Peterson 7" round sealed beam headlights seem to be the same size behind the mounting ring as their incandescent ancestors.  They do stick out in front of the mounting ring somewhere near an inch.  I put one in my Ninja 250 and it's a great headlight, except that in the daytime, if you're not in the beam, it doesn't even look lit.  The optics are so "good" they don't scatter significant light outside the beam pattern.

I was riding ahead of my daughter, who was on the 250, and I had to stop to see if the headlight was working.  My solution was to get my son to 3-D print a diffuser of clear plastic that snaps over the front of the bulb.  It's just a thin layer of clear fused filament in front of the bulb's lens, and a 1" cylindrical mounting ring, and it lights up brightly in the daytime.  At  night it can be removed and put in the tail bag.  I'm quite sure I'd find out it's not legal if I asked the officials about it.

It brings to light the two separate purposes of headlights:  Being able to see, and being seen.   As good a headlight at this is for seeing, it's below par for being seen.

[jas67]

Unfortunately, they don't make the original H4 mesh monster anymore.  The newer R3 version won't fit into the V7's headlight bucket because the power supply cord is now routed out the rear of the unit, along with the mesh, so it's slightly too long to fit.  Since the previous version's power supply was routed out the side of the unit, it necessitated less rear clearance.

Thanks for the info on the R3.   I was contemplating buying one for my V7S for the better beam pattern, but, now I guess I'll stick with the Mesh Monster.

[Testarossa]

Installed this on the Mille, for $45: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06VT6QJ5H/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Claimed 3600 lumens at 40w using Cree diodes.

Haven't had it out at night yet so can't report on brightness and cut-off focus, but the power draw is better than the H4 halogen: I get charging breakeven at 1200 rpm vs 3000 rpm with the 55/60w halogen.

Reservation: lens is polycarb, not glass, so we'll see whether it scratches or pits.





It was a no-fiddle fit in the headlight shell so it's easy to go back to the Cibie if necessary.

SP fairing goes on later this week.

[redhawk47]

Installed this on the Mille, for $45: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06VT6QJ5H/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Claimed 3600 lumens at 40w using Cree diodes.

Haven't had it out at night yet so can't report on brightness and cut-off focus, but the power draw is better than the H4 halogen: I get charging breakeven at 1200 rpm vs 3000 rpm with the 55/60w halogen.

Reservation: lens is polycarb, not glass, so we'll see whether it scratches or pits.





It was a no-fiddle fit in the headlight shell so it's easy to go back to the Cibie if necessary.

SP fairing goes on later this week.

I am curious what the beam pattern and low beam cutoff looks like.
I saw no mention of DOT compliance in their description.

[Testarossa]

DOT inscribed at the top of the lens.

[Triple Jim]

It that one all LED? (no incandescent elements)

Does it fit a standard 7" housing made for automotive type sealed beam headlamps? 

[airheadbob]

Take a look at the ADVMONSTER site.
In the headlight replacement section, they have the Native H4 replacement bulb, from what I've heard the
heat sink portion is placed in the reflector area for use in crowded headlight shell applications.
I'm Shure that the people at ADVMONSTER can explain the design better than I can, I am
considering one for use in my r80rt ,where real-estate in the headlight bucket is scarce.
it moves the heat further from the wiring ,just like the H4 it replaces.

[Testarossa]

Went for a ride with the $45 40w Daymaker clone with Cree diodes.

It's very bright. Fairly sharp cutoff on low beam and good reach on high beam.  But as you can see in the photos, the high beam is focused pretty narrowly down the lane, without much illumination for the berm. It may be better if I aim the lamp a bit higher. Right now it would make me nervous about wildlife -- and that dark spot to the side means you corner into a black hole. Will re-aim and try again.

Lo beam first, then high beam.






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