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Drifting off…
« on: January 25, 2023, 03:38:04 PM »
In the “What motorcycle accessory would you rate as a 10” post, n3303j correctly pointed out how a thread can and almost inevitably does, drift away from the original topic.
This forum was conceived by Luap as a “virtual campfire discussion” and as such is a vehicle to comment on or add to, an opinion that was offered. If a person is speaking on a given topic in a gathering, there’ll be a selection in that group that either
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Listens intently to what’s being said in the hope of learning more…(Beetle, Beard or Meinolf’s posts)

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Disagree and start an argument..intention ally or otherwise. (Guilty your honour.)

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Insert something into the conversation in the (possibly mistaken) belief that it better exemplifies the original thrust..(Guilty again.)

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Intentionally exposes the person espousing their beliefs, who was doing so at the expense of another..(Unashamedly guilty again..)

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Attempts to elevate their own perceived status within the group by taking the light from the commentator..(Occasionally guilty again.)

The above is to try to highlight how I see thread drift manifests.  If we were all indeed in a group and drift began to occur, we’d either be shut down by some authority (Dan), or commence a conversation with a seemingly interested person in our vicinity, (the drunken uncle at a wedding is one example).
Our tendancy to redirect a conversation in the direction we wish it would go, is strong and some people do it more (or better) than others.

If I tell you all about the advice I gave yesterday, to a new rider regarding the need for him to throw away his (obviously) dangerous open face helmet, have his death trap Shinko tyres taken off and replaced with Michelins, then remove the throttle lock and throw it in the dumpster before it kills him (all of which is true), there’ll be responses.
Why ?
Because I’ve demonstrated that I hold myself up as the one and only font of wisdom and as such will immediately become a target…(which I welcome).
Thread drift is the bottom line that manifests as the result of participants wanting to divert the subject to one where they feel more comfortable, knowlegeable or relevant. If I signed off by saying..
“Let’s see where this goes..”
No one would respond.
So I won’t… :popcorn:
« Last Edit: January 25, 2023, 05:21:05 PM by Huzo »

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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2023, 04:02:59 PM »
All of which pertain to opinion. We all have them. Doesn't make them right. However, we're all entitled to them including you.

And yes, you could DIE from using a throttle lock if used in the wrong circumstance. Same with riding a motorbike or even my 13 mile commute home today in my F150.

I still say the gadget  the best $10.00 I ever spent on a piece of gear. Just my opinion. And there's not a damn thing wrong with Shinko tires either  :thumb:
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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2023, 04:07:15 PM »

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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2023, 04:44:34 PM »
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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2023, 05:43:58 PM »
I was gonna blame this thread on winter weather - but isn't it summer in Australia ?

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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2023, 06:06:58 PM »
Let’s all go easy on Pete with this one 🤔😉


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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2023, 06:17:02 PM »
I'm sorry I drifted off into sleep while reading your LONG winded ramble  :cool: :evil:

90% of the discussion naturally drifts away and JUST as naturally comes back to the topic at hand. Usually after the initial question has been addressed. It is what naturally happens in freindly conversation. Same with poor behavior. Groups self correct and OPs will jump back in to say 'hey' you didnt answer my question.... A famous singers mother (reportedly named Mary) gave great advice that can be easily applied to this topic........... Can you fill in the blanks?  _ _ _   _ _  _ _.

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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2023, 06:57:33 PM »
Entertainment   :grin:
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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2023, 07:19:06 PM »
Absolutely true Huzo!

A very astute observation!

What Luap and Dan are trying to do, is similar to training a dog.  Humans train dogs to prevent the dogs from going into "predatory drift."

Dogs that spend too much time in predatory drift mode, behave in manners that prohibit them from fitting into "human culture."

Thus, "thread drift" is a lot like "predatory drift" but with opposable thumbs and keyboards.
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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2023, 07:36:33 PM »
Sounds like I missed some sort of boorish Aussie rant,dang nammit,I'll have to pay better attention from now on.  :evil:

I have very little time for over bearing know it alls,but no matter how obtuse someone's comments may appear on the surface;if a caution,warning,recommendation, is made out of concern,in the spirit of possibly saving a fellow rider grief or serious injury;I can tolerate a difference of opinion and a little thread drift. jmo

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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2023, 07:40:32 PM »
Sounds like I missed some sort of boorish Aussie rant,dang nammit,I'll have to pay better attention from now on.  :evil:
It’s an out there notion I’ll admit, but if you take a deep breath and scroll up the page about 6 or 7 inches depending on screen size, there’s an outside chance that it may still be there if I haven’t upset some wallflower enough to have it nuked…

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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2023, 08:05:01 PM »
Explain again Huzo how this thread is about me and I will jump right in...
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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2023, 08:09:31 PM »
How about that Bills/Bengals game last week???? There were snow DRIFTS by the end of the 4th quarter  :evil:
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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2023, 09:00:48 PM »

I’m interested to see how much drift this post experiences, since it’s title has no particular focus.
I’ll learn as much from the people who don’t comment as from those who do and I’ll bet there’ll be the usual suspects who think…
“I’d love to shoot that guy down, but I know that’s exactly what he wants….” ( anguished hand wringing and refuel back of the neck rubbing…).  :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:


Technically, based on the title, this thread could go anywhere, and it would not be drifting.

A virtual perpetual motion thread......
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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2023, 03:20:12 AM »
All of which pertain to opinion.
Opinions, hmmmm…
Opinions by definition can never be wrong. An opinion is a belief or set of beliefs that YOU hold to be true or factual.
So.
If you truly hold the opinion that something is factual, then as long as that is YOUR belief, then that is your opinion. The fact that you truly hold that opinion means your set of beliefs is the same as the opinion, so your OPINION is correct although the facts may be in opposition. :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2023, 03:23:58 AM »
Technically, based on the title, this thread could go anywhere, and it would not be drifting.

A virtual perpetual motion thread......
Yes..!
Because you cannot drift off a track that has no definitive direction. Whatever course you take, cannot be deemed “wrong”.
Indeed, if you maintain a rigid course you have deviated from every other possible course, so as long as you are aimlessly drifting…?
You are on track….

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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2023, 03:48:46 AM »
Explain again Huzo how this thread is about me and I will jump right in...
There are only two names that jump out at me as a master drifters Scout and neither one is yours.

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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2023, 04:34:42 AM »


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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2023, 05:50:31 AM »
Yes..!
Because you cannot drift off a track that has no definitive direction. Whatever course you take, cannot be deemed “wrong”.
Indeed, if you maintain a rigid course you have deviated from every other possible course, so as long as you are aimlessly drifting…?
You are on track….

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Websites where everyone agrees die very quickly.

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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2023, 08:10:14 AM »


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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2023, 08:52:18 AM »

Huzo,

Personally, I love the bantering and good natured taunting.  Probably because of how I was raised.

If something got to you, the last thing you wanted to do was to let it show.  Brothers, friends, family, co-workers, etc would use that to try to irritate you.  I suspect you knew some of these same types during your formative years.

As Gramma would say "Don't let them get your goat!"  Great advice!

Regarding those who get upset when someone disagrees with them, Blaise Pascal said it as well as anyone:

"We do not content ourselves with the life we have in ourselves and in our own being; we desire to live an imaginary life in the mind of others, and for this purpose we endeavor to shine.  We labor unceasingly to adorn and preserve this imaginary existence and neglect the real.  A great proof of the nothingness of our being, not to be satisfied with the one without the other, and to renounce so often the one for the other!"

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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2023, 09:27:03 AM »
How about that Bills/Bengals game last week???? There were snow DRIFTS by the end of the 4th quarter  :evil:

Looking forward to the Eagles/49’rs this weekend. Two of the youngest quarterbacks shooting it out, both with high talent defenses. Should be a good game.
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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2023, 01:14:59 PM »
Huzo, my man,  take a step back.    You're beginning to suffer from "big fish in a small pond" syndrome.
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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2023, 02:56:40 PM »
Huzo, my man,  take a step back.    You're beginning to suffer from "big fish in a small pond" syndrome.
Sorry Chad, you always see things clearly, but I can’t see what you mean.

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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2023, 03:45:09 PM »
Don't fret over it, I'm not sure I really know what I'm trying to say today.
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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2023, 04:19:17 PM »
From the Deep Deep South out in left field.  There are no stupid questions.  There are however stupid people asking questions.  🤣, this includes me.  😉

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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2023, 05:09:48 PM »
Don't fret over it, I'm not sure I really what I'm trying to say today.
Ok mate, no worries.

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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2023, 05:26:19 PM »
Opinions, hmmmm…
Opinions by definition can never be wrong. An opinion is a belief or set of beliefs that YOU hold to be true or factual.
So.
If you truly hold the opinion that something is factual, then as long as that is YOUR belief, then that is your opinion. The fact that you truly hold that opinion means your set of beliefs is the same as the opinion, so your OPINION is correct although the facts may be in opposition. :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

Or as someone recently said "It is more important to me morally right than factually correct"
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Re: Drifting off…
« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2023, 05:33:35 PM »
You guys know that Ken Block passed???

How is that relevant here?
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