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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1110 on: January 03, 2023, 08:48:25 AM »
Another month, still no V100 in the states, I’m beginning my initial thought’s may be right…………..March or April. It’s hard to hold on to the money for so long :coffee:. Anyone have a delivery date?

Not officially. When I ordered mine the Guzzi website said late January but the local dealer told me not to expect it until March. Doesn't much matter since I would by hard pressed to find a decent day for a ride until April around these parts of the world.

I will say that I haven't gotten any updates from the factory. When I ordered the bike I was led to believe to expect periodic updates when the bike gets closer to arrival.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1111 on: January 03, 2023, 10:54:40 AM »
I’m looking forward to having a ride on one, but I cannot understand why I’m not getting keen on buying one.

It’s not like me… :undecided:

I do think that front fairing thing looks a bit undercooked, there’s gunna’ be a plethora of owners fitting extensions of all descriptions to the Perspex….It won’t be pretty.
Somebody in the ‘States is gunna’ take one more than 20 miles from home and realise the inadequacy of that little “thing” on the front……Then THE PROCESS… :evil: will start
The introduction of the Stelvio might forestall any such shenanigans if it is suitably equipped, but I further predict that there’ll be a flood of lightly used highly farkled V100’s hitting the for sale pages as owners lament the purchase of the V100 Mandello, when they could have gotten the Stelvio.
But there are millions of dollars sitting in the pockets of retired cashed up old farts, who would go and buy a new Guzzi and the only thing stopping them is the seat is too far from the road…!

Get that seat height down Luigi, 50 mm minimum….!
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1112 on: January 04, 2023, 10:07:16 AM »
on the topic of seat height..

went back to the dealers today with my girlfriend to get a pillion perspective...

her vote, absolutely useless. Which is what I expected, just look at the height of the pillion foot pegs. Her vote was that it felt about as bad as the griso, which is the worst pillion bike of all time.

GF is an ex ballet dancer of slender proportions, so I'm betting if it's too cramped for her it'll be too cramped for everyone. She can handle 5 hour days on the cali or the old loop frame fwiw.

Don't expect to put miles on this thing with a passenger!!!

I'm waiting to see what other models they bring out with this motor


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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1113 on: January 04, 2023, 12:19:29 PM »
I hope Corbin and others come through with a solution.
The original Norge seat is just as bad, but the Corbin replacement is infinitely better to me.
I guess the exhaust location complicates changing the peg height.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1113 on: January 04, 2023, 12:19:29 PM »

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1114 on: January 04, 2023, 01:16:08 PM »
I have the factory lowered seat on my 07 Norge which I bought when taking delivery of the bike and it's been fine for all these years.  And I thought the factory was offering a lower and higher seat for the V100.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1115 on: January 04, 2023, 03:46:17 PM »
I hope Corbin and others come through with a solution.
The original Norge seat is just as bad, but the Corbin replacement is infinitely better to me.
I guess the exhaust location complicates changing the peg height.

Corbin has yet to do anything for the V85TT so I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1116 on: January 04, 2023, 05:28:34 PM »
"pillion perspective" ,been waiting to hear from someone here ,....  .I say, 'thought so' . No good for Two up riding ,therefore no good to us .
Nevertheless, once the first once arrive up here ,I'd like to take it for a Ride.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1117 on: January 04, 2023, 11:44:52 PM »
There are plenty of talanted seat makers around who can make what you want and it'll be superior to any factory offering anyway.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1118 on: January 05, 2023, 05:13:14 AM »
true, but the seat is the least of your worries when the subframe has the passenger too high up and the exhaust dictates that the pegs give no leg room.

Obviously, it could be sorted with a lot of modding, but my point was that as it comes, this thing stinks as a passenger mount

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1119 on: January 05, 2023, 10:25:20 AM »
true, but the seat is the least of your worries when the subframe has the passenger too high up and the exhaust dictates that the pegs give no leg room.

Obviously, it could be sorted with a lot of modding, but my point was that as it comes, this thing stinks as a passenger mount

Simply a result of the current styling trend that dictates rear of the seat only going back to around the axle, lots of space above the rear wheel, and mufflers angled up.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1120 on: January 05, 2023, 10:51:12 AM »
absolutely spot on.

I find it infuriating

sorry for thread drift!!!
« Last Edit: January 05, 2023, 10:51:33 AM by lazlokovacs »

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1121 on: January 05, 2023, 04:54:06 PM »
Strange, Corbin offers seats for v9s, which have sold much more poorly than the v85.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1122 on: January 05, 2023, 10:10:07 PM »
Oh my.  Have we devolved into Winter discussions of the perceived comfort regarding the stock seat?   :popcorn: :grin: :boozing:
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1123 on: January 06, 2023, 06:41:33 AM »
Strange, Corbin offers seats for v9s, which have sold much more poorly than the v85.

I sent Corbin a note about seats for the new Guzzi models and their reply stated that they're not doing new models at this time. I find that interesting as their website lists dozens of new models including Livewire, Zero, e-bikes and even Peloton. Maybe if enough people wrote them they'd be motivated to make one for the V85.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1124 on: January 06, 2023, 02:01:32 PM »
Not much news, but I  ran across this-  Motorcyclist named the V100 as one of the best looking new bikes:
https://www.motorcyclistonline.com/story/news/best-looking-motorcycles/

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1125 on: January 07, 2023, 12:21:45 PM »
Concept bike-designer is Italian if I understand correct.



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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1126 on: January 07, 2023, 01:48:44 PM »
Concept bike-designer is Italian if I understand correct.




Seat stupidly high.
Headlight and instruments are garbage.
Front ‘guard mount is very scrapyard challenge.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1127 on: January 08, 2023, 08:01:00 AM »
Concept bike-designer is Italian if I understand correct.





I like it.  A lot.  If nothing else it gives you one idea of what will likely be many different versions of bikes with the new engine.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1128 on: January 08, 2023, 08:41:01 AM »
I'm fond of the paint
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1129 on: January 08, 2023, 09:11:39 PM »
I find the concept bike more appealing than the production V-100, but for the headlamp.  Please, please, a round headlamp mounted in a bullet-like shell....

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1130 on: January 08, 2023, 11:12:35 PM »
Seat stupidly high.
Headlight and instruments are garbage.
Front ‘guard mount is very scrapyard challenge.

I dunno - is the seat too high or the bars too low?

Headlight is parts bin Breva - no thanks
Standard clocks rather than big TFT screen will appeal to many.

Fender mounts look to be re-purposed struts from the old Cali fenders. I like the throwback charm  :cheesy:
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1131 on: January 10, 2023, 07:23:56 AM »
I thought this was a good write up (FB post) from a person who has never owned a Moto Guzzi and is coming from a BMW R1250 RT:

“My views on the V100.

Currently I ride a BMW R1250 RT LE.
Haven't ridden for nearly 10 years and that was the RT 1150 which I loved. (I'm 64 )
Just couldn't feel at one with the 1250.
So after only 4 months started thinking about alternative options.
I prefer shaft drive which of course severly limits ones choice.
Back in May I looked at the V7 and V85 but decided they weren't quite right.

Today I finally got to ride the V100 Mandello, not the S version.
So finally my thoughts.
The 45 kg saving in weight feels like much more weight saved, the center of gravity feels much lower.
It had a more balanced feel from the first instant.
I sit more on top of the V100 than the RT and need much less effort to throw the V100 around.
Power to weight ratio for bike only is on par but the V100 felt much more responsive possibly just lower final drive ratio.
Engine sounds fairly turbine like with gentle throttle application but a more lion like roar if you ask for more.
Power delivery is smoother than the RT to with good grunt from low revolutions possibly even lower than the RT.
The engine feels more alive somehow, I might have broken the speed limit while checking this .
Sound isn't high on my list of priorities but the V100 does stir the blood.
Clutch is very light and I wouldn't feel the need for a quick shifter even with arthritis in my left hand.
Brakes are sharp and much like the RT with the exception that you get a bit of front dive on the V100.
Comfort I found very good with excellent support from the seat.
Some vibration felt in the foot pegs but not in the handlebars.
Wind protection obviously not up to RT standard but still good, more wind felt on chest which could be an issue in cold weather.
Didn't notice any buffeting though which is good, I might have broken the speed limit while checking this as well. Considering how small the little screen is visually they've done a great job aerodynamically.

Summing up I felt more at home, safer and yet more enjoyment within the 1st mile than I currently feel on the RT after 1,700 miles.

So I've ordered the V100S.

Should also have added thanks to Arnold's motorcycles in Burton on Trent for the opportunity to test ride the bike today.

Also forgot suspension.
A bit on the hard side compared to what I'm used to but that could just be how this particular bike was set up.
What it did do was hold a line perfectly regardless of any bumps on the road.
This is my first Italian bike ride, I've always wondered if they handled better or not.
Certainly it gave a good deal of confidence on our less than good roads.

Also also forgot the gearbox.
I found it much smoother than the RT and certainly finding neutral is much easier.
I thought the actual gear lever arm looked a bit too short but had no problems on the ride.
A curious noise into 1st or 2nd, more of a hollow clunk really but I believe that's pretty standard on these.
On the RT I usually get up into 6th as soon as possible, I found the V100 didn't make me want to do that.
Clearly more of a sports bike than tourer at least to me.“
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1132 on: January 10, 2023, 08:54:28 PM »
I find the concept bike more appealing than the production V-100, but for the headlamp.  Please, please, a round headlamp mounted in a bullet-like shell....

Ralph

Ralph, I'm afraid round headlights are now historical.  LEDs work in so many shapes that there is simply no need to make the headlamps round anymore.  But I feel for you- I like round also.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1133 on: January 23, 2023, 04:59:55 PM »
Evidently they are getting closer to North America:

“Dear Moto Guzzi Customer,

We are pleased to announce your Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello is nearing arrival in US and want to thank you for your order. Congratulations in joining Moto Guzzi in celebrating another 100 years of history with the arrival of this new motorcycle.

Your order is confirmed has been confirmed with your selected dealership and that any additional items have been addressed to ensure a timely delivery of your new V100 Mandello.

We will provide additional updates over the coming weeks, to confirm specific delivery timelines to your dealership. Orders will be fulfilled in a first come, first served basis over the next few months.

Please anticipate an additional follow-up within the next couple weeks, and do not hesitate to reach out concerning your order should you have any questions.”
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1134 on: January 28, 2023, 11:49:33 AM »
Under the valve cover:

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1135 on: January 28, 2023, 02:03:50 PM »
Under the valve cover:


That’s not flaking  on the cam is it..? :evil:

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1136 on: January 28, 2023, 10:44:56 PM »
Is that a decompression mechanism on the end of the exhaust camshaft for easier cranking?
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1137 on: January 29, 2023, 05:51:50 AM »
Is that a Roaman Candal launch tube in the center?
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1138 on: January 29, 2023, 06:25:14 AM »
So many questions.  So little time. 
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1139 on: January 29, 2023, 11:17:14 AM »
Is that a Roaman Candal launch tube in the center?

Noooo....that is where you keep the suspender wax.
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