V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest

[kingoffleece]

I was chatting with Jim Hamlin from Hamlin Cycles yesterday.  One topic was service for the new bike.  They just completed factory service training.  Recommended by factory is cam removal every 15K for check/adjustment.

[Bulldog9]

I was chatting with Jim Hamlin from Hamlin Cycles yesterday.  One topic was service for the new bike.  They just completed factory service training.  Recommended by factory is cam removal every 15K for check/adjustment.

That answers that. I imagine that the check is cams in, but as many suspected shim adjustment is cams out. Question remains when they will/may need shim adjustments.  Not saying this is a total game changer, but does impact my decision making for potential future wallet draining activity......

[HarveyMushman]

I don't understand the angst about cams-out shim adjustments.  Yes, it's more involved than the old screw adjuster process. But only by a small margin, and the work area is just as conveniently presented as ever. 

[Kiwi_Roy]

Many of the threads seem to be looking for a specific response, however if you just click on Reply it allows you to type anything in response, anything is better than nothing I reckon

[Bulldog9]

I don't understand the angst about cams-out shim adjustments.  Yes, it's more involved than the old screw adjuster process. But only by a small margin, and the work area is just as conveniently presented as ever.

So I hear you saying when I retire and am back in VA I can drop my V100 at your place for shims?  

Can't speak for anyone else, and I am a pretty decent wrench but I just hate OHC valvetrain work. I've done it on my XS11, FJR1300 and BMW M3 without catastropic (or any) failures. I'm sure there are timing marks for the cams and crank and ability to lock the tensioners back, but doing all this for two banks is too much of a PITA for me these days. Truly spoiled by the screw and nut adjusters on my Guzzi's and Porsche.

[HarveyMushman]

So I hear you saying when I retire and am back in VA I can drop my V100 at your place for shims?  

Sure, man, but shop policy is to perform extensive post-service evaluation rides.

[blackcat]

I looked at the shop manual and it doesn’t look that complicated, but you will need the special tool to lock the sprockets. With the adjustment period every 15,000 miles I can see having to review the manual for the first few adjustments.

[Madtownguzzi]

Nice review out of Germany on the 2023 Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJE3-Rib59Q&t=193s

[Huzo]

I would be disconnecting those deflector things.
If I watch that video one more time, I just know I’m going to make an off colour comment.

[Murray]

I looked at the shop manual and it doesn’t look that complicated, but you will need the special tool to lock the sprockets.

That has a 3d printer project stamped all over it.

[blackcat]

I looked at the shop manual and it doesn’t look that complicated, but you will need the special tool to lock the sprockets.

"That has a 3d printer project stamped all over it."

Yes it does, especially if the cost for the special tool is an issue.

[LowRyter]

I looked at the shop manual and it doesn’t look that complicated, but you will need the special tool to lock the sprockets.

"That has a 3d printer project stamped all over it."

Yes it does, especially if the cost for the special tool is an issue.

I'm guessing there are no slots to thread in some baling wire?

[Vagrant]

16 penny nail.

[ridingron]

I have a Honda with the bucket and shim set up. It is like a Guzzi but a V-4 instead of twin. At 104K miles, I pulled the valve covers to check the valves. Turn the motor over to get the valve in position. Check the clearance. Move to next valve.  All 8 were still in spec. as  from the factory. Is that because it's a Honda? Yes, if one needs adjusting, the cam must come out. It's really not that big of a deal.

It is a little bit more than the old screw adjuster process. But not much.

[steven c]

I just check the valves on my 2010 650 VStrom (all within spec at 18K) I wish they where that easy to get to. On the GS850 and XT350 I had, if you had to replace a shim just used a special tool ,on the GS I think I used a screw driver to compress the bucket and remove the shim pretty easy no cam to remove. But if you have to remove cam its not hard just take your time and make sure the marks line up when putting back together.

[spmoto]

Has anyone here actually ridden off the dealer's lot with one of these yet???

[mechanicsavant]

It has been my experience w/shim over or under bucket that once everything is settled in , valve clearances hardly vary at all . This is based on a number of Asian & European OHC engines . That’s not to say there won’t be a few “anomalies “ out there , but there is a boatload of experience out there . I am kinda wondering why they didn’t use a finger follower type arrangement either with hydraulic, or mechanical adjusters . Cost , maybe? Simplicity?

[Huzo]

Has anyone here actually ridden off the dealer's lot with one of these yet???

Could be wrong, but I reckon if anybody had one, it might have come up in conversation.

[blackcat]

Has anyone here actually ridden off the dealer's lot with one of these yet???

There is a FB page with lots of V100 owner reports:

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[dguzzi]

Could be wrong, but I reckon if anybody had one, it might have come up in conversation.

  They have a poor track record  (See Hydro problems)  Also the Griso issues leading to rollers.

[Huzo]

  They have a poor track record  (See Hydro problems)  Also the Griso issues leading to rollers.

I don’t understand what you mean.

[guzzisteve]

It means they could be junk, and what electrics won't work, dash etc.

[LowRyter]

I don’t understand what you mean.

yes you do   

[Huzo]

yes you do   

I take your point LR, but it was a bit obscure.

[steven c]

https://www.saferiders.it/2023-moto-guzzi-v100-mandello-review/?fbclid=IwAR2EGqKNX67i8flPKWP49pdP0JEVJnI19VukKQck0yQu1jBKrRzlMQoBg6s

[blackcat]

From what I’ve read there is a problem with a coolant line on some bikes. A few owners have shown pictures of minor leakage from the same hose clamp. And a couple have reported rattling windshield armatures which were easily tightened.

[bad Chad]

Lots of people have ridden off the lot, just not yet in North America.

Or perhaps some have, but they don’t like the incessant complaining so prevalent here?

[kingoffleece]

Well, that was certainly a well written and thought out piece on the new bike.
One of the very best reviews I've ever read about any motorcycle.  Thoughtful intelligent discussion with an historical backdrop.  Very entertaining to say the least.

[skippy]

Well, that was certainly a well written and thought out piece on the new bike.
One of the very best reviews I've ever read about any motorcycle.  Thoughtful intelligent discussion with an historical backdrop.  Very entertaining to say the least.

I will second that. This is a really well written and concise review of not only the V100 but of Moto Guzzi as a whole.

Skippy

[Huzo]

Or perhaps some have, but they don’t like the incessant complaining so prevalent here?

Don’t be too hard on yourself Chad, you’re not that bad.