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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1170 on: February 12, 2023, 10:44:09 AM »
I was chatting with Jim Hamlin from Hamlin Cycles yesterday.  One topic was service for the new bike.  They just completed factory service training.  Recommended by factory is cam removal every 15K for check/adjustment.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1171 on: February 13, 2023, 08:02:16 PM »
I was chatting with Jim Hamlin from Hamlin Cycles yesterday.  One topic was service for the new bike.  They just completed factory service training.  Recommended by factory is cam removal every 15K for check/adjustment.

That answers that. I imagine that the check is cams in, but as many suspected shim adjustment is cams out. Question remains when they will/may need shim adjustments.  Not saying this is a total game changer, but does impact my decision making for potential future wallet draining activity......
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1172 on: February 15, 2023, 06:40:19 PM »
I don't understand the angst about cams-out shim adjustments.  Yes, it's more involved than the old screw adjuster process. But only by a small margin, and the work area is just as conveniently presented as ever. 
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1173 on: February 15, 2023, 07:04:04 PM »
Many of the threads seem to be looking for a specific response, however if you just click on Reply it allows you to type anything in response, anything is better than nothing I reckon
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1173 on: February 15, 2023, 07:04:04 PM »

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1174 on: February 15, 2023, 08:09:06 PM »
I don't understand the angst about cams-out shim adjustments.  Yes, it's more involved than the old screw adjuster process. But only by a small margin, and the work area is just as conveniently presented as ever.

So I hear you saying when I retire and am back in VA I can drop my V100 at your place for shims? :evil: 

Can't speak for anyone else, and I am a pretty decent wrench but I just hate OHC valvetrain work. I've done it on my XS11, FJR1300 and BMW M3 without catastropic (or any) failures. I'm sure there are timing marks for the cams and crank and ability to lock the tensioners back, but doing all this for two banks is too much of a PITA for me these days. Truly spoiled by the screw and nut adjusters on my Guzzi's and Porsche.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1175 on: February 16, 2023, 07:17:25 AM »
So I hear you saying when I retire and am back in VA I can drop my V100 at your place for shims? :evil: 

Sure, man, but shop policy is to perform extensive post-service evaluation rides.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1176 on: February 16, 2023, 08:47:48 AM »
I looked at the shop manual and it doesnít look that complicated, but you will need the special tool to lock the sprockets. With the adjustment period every 15,000 miles I can see having to review the manual for the first few adjustments.





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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1177 on: February 16, 2023, 06:57:58 PM »
Nice review out of Germany on the 2023 Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJE3-Rib59Q&t=193s
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1178 on: February 17, 2023, 02:07:44 AM »
I would be disconnecting those deflector things.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1179 on: February 17, 2023, 08:33:06 AM »
I looked at the shop manual and it doesnít look that complicated, but you will need the special tool to lock the sprockets.

That has a 3d printer project stamped all over it.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1180 on: February 17, 2023, 09:26:32 AM »
I looked at the shop manual and it doesnít look that complicated, but you will need the special tool to lock the sprockets.

"That has a 3d printer project stamped all over it."

Yes it does, especially if the cost for the special tool is an issue.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1181 on: February 18, 2023, 05:07:56 PM »
I looked at the shop manual and it doesnít look that complicated, but you will need the special tool to lock the sprockets.

"That has a 3d printer project stamped all over it."

Yes it does, especially if the cost for the special tool is an issue.

I'm guessing there are no slots to thread in some baling wire?
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1182 on: February 18, 2023, 05:52:33 PM »
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1183 on: February 18, 2023, 07:03:20 PM »
I have a Honda with the bucket and shim set up. It is like a Guzzi but a V-4 instead of twin. At 104K miles, I pulled the valve covers to check the valves. Turn the motor over to get the valve in position. Check the clearance. Move to next valve.  All 8 were still in spec. as  from the factory. Is that because it's a Honda? Yes, if one needs adjusting, the cam must come out. It's really not that big of a deal.

It is a little bit more than the old screw adjuster process. But not much.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1184 on: February 19, 2023, 08:03:25 AM »
I just check the valves on my 2010 650 VStrom (all within spec at 18K) I wish they where that easy to get to. On the GS850 and XT350 I had, if you had to replace a shim just used a special tool ,on the GS I think I used a screw driver to compress the bucket and remove the shim pretty easy no cam to remove. But if you have to remove cam its not hard just take your time and make sure the marks line up when putting back together.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1185 on: February 19, 2023, 11:35:30 AM »
Has anyone here actually ridden off the dealer's lot with one of these yet???

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1186 on: February 19, 2023, 12:27:15 PM »
It has been my experience w/shim over or under bucket that once everything is settled in , valve clearances hardly vary at all . This is based on a number of Asian & European OHC engines . Thatís not to say there wonít be a few ďanomalies ď out there , but there is a boatload of experience out there . I am kinda wondering why they didnít use a finger follower type arrangement either with hydraulic, or mechanical adjusters . Cost , maybe? Simplicity?

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1187 on: February 19, 2023, 12:31:42 PM »
Has anyone here actually ridden off the dealer's lot with one of these yet???
Could be wrong, but I reckon if anybody had one, it might have come up in conversation.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1189 on: February 19, 2023, 02:31:22 PM »
Could be wrong, but I reckon if anybody had one, it might have come up in conversation.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1190 on: February 19, 2023, 03:34:02 PM »
  They have a poor track record  (See Hydro problems)  Also the Griso issues leading to rollers.
I donít understand what you mean.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1191 on: February 19, 2023, 05:55:34 PM »
It means they could be junk, and what electrics won't work, dash etc.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1192 on: February 19, 2023, 09:57:49 PM »
I donít understand what you mean.

yes you do   :evil:
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1193 on: February 19, 2023, 11:40:12 PM »
yes you do   :evil:
I take your point LR, but it was a bit obscure.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1195 on: February 20, 2023, 06:28:54 AM »
From what Iíve read there is a problem with a coolant line on some bikes. A few owners have shown pictures of minor leakage from the same hose clamp. And a couple have reported rattling windshield armatures which were easily tightened.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1196 on: February 20, 2023, 09:02:50 AM »
Lots of people have ridden off the lot, just not yet in North America.

Or perhaps some have, but they donít like the incessant complaining so prevalent here?
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1197 on: February 20, 2023, 09:15:14 AM »
Well, that was certainly a well written and thought out piece on the new bike.
One of the very best reviews I've ever read about any motorcycle.  Thoughtful intelligent discussion with an historical backdrop.  Very entertaining to say the least.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1198 on: February 20, 2023, 10:35:08 AM »
Well, that was certainly a well written and thought out piece on the new bike.
One of the very best reviews I've ever read about any motorcycle.  Thoughtful intelligent discussion with an historical backdrop.  Very entertaining to say the least.

I will second that. This is a really well written and concise review of not only the V100 but of Moto Guzzi as a whole.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1199 on: February 20, 2023, 11:30:20 AM »
Or perhaps some have, but they donít like the incessant complaining so prevalent here?
Donít be too hard on yourself Chad, youíre not that bad.

 

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