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Title: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: fotoguzzi on November 25, 2021, 03:18:52 PM
I'll tell what I think after you experts guess.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Trail-cam/i-WCvW5T3/0/d03eea9d/1280/2021112515162966--1248352484130578411-IMG_4395-1280.mp4) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Trail-cam/i-WCvW5T3/A)
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: inditx on November 25, 2021, 03:21:56 PM
Ground hog?
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: Mark Dasher on November 25, 2021, 03:50:28 PM
No-see-um.
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: stormshearon on November 25, 2021, 04:11:47 PM
Polar bear in a blizzard..
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: Turin on November 25, 2021, 04:12:02 PM
Must be a snipe. Never had any luck hunting those.
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: AJ Huff on November 25, 2021, 04:17:40 PM
Jabberwocky

-AJ
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: fotoguzzi on November 25, 2021, 04:18:32 PM
An invisible one ?

 TS
hmm,  you can't see the video? What's up with that? It embedded when I view it.
Here's a link
https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Trail-cam/i-WCvW5T3/A
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: Murray on November 25, 2021, 04:25:29 PM
Polar bear in a blizzard..

Did you not see the penguin he was playing chess with?
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: Kent in Upstate NY on November 25, 2021, 04:28:22 PM
Groundhog?
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: Guzzistajohn on November 25, 2021, 04:37:38 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/zsn3G4V/jackalope.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zsn3G4V)
The wily Jackalope
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: Texas Turnip on November 25, 2021, 04:56:14 PM
The three toed bi-sexual sloth.

Tex
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: AJ Huff on November 25, 2021, 04:58:25 PM
hmm,  you can't see the video? What's up with that? It embedded when I view it.
Here's a link
https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Trail-cam/i-WCvW5T3/A

A snow turtle!!

-AJ
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on November 25, 2021, 05:05:56 PM
Groundhog?

+1 Although it walks funny for one.
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: cliffrod on November 25, 2021, 05:09:14 PM
Looks to me like a young opossum that's lost some or all of its tail, which is considered a non-releasable rehab because they need their tail to have the best chance of surviving in the wild.  They carry bedding materials with their tail and use it for stability while climbing.   The last opossum we had did not have a tail. The one we have now (in the other room) does. 

On this Thanksgiving, I'm thankful that you live far enough away from us so that we wouldn't "need" to set a trap it catch it and place it with a rehabber.....

Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on November 25, 2021, 05:23:13 PM
Looks too big for an Indiana 'possum.. but could be, I guess.
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: SIR REAL ED on November 25, 2021, 05:32:15 PM
A cat that ate tooooo much.
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: cliffrod on November 25, 2021, 05:42:09 PM
Looks too big for an Indiana 'possum.. but could be, I guess.

Some of the boars get big, but they normally don't travel as fast or stand as tall as the younger thinner ones.   

My wife does opossums like  I do bikes.  Except she's inspected, selected, detected and formally protected by her USDA registration, etc etc and so are the possums she keeps.  The new area federal agent came by to visit/inspect the facility and our current opossum Mimi about 3 wks ago.

 
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: tazio on November 25, 2021, 06:35:13 PM
Porcupine
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: pehayes on November 25, 2021, 10:13:40 PM
Looks to me like a young opossum that's lost some or all of its tail,

+1
Gait, feet, surely opossum.  Sorry about the tail.  Life is tough out there in the wild.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: fotoguzzi on November 26, 2021, 08:39:06 AM
Thanks for the input.. groundhog are not nocturnal so that's out I think. We do have opossum here but kind of rare so my brother and I are going with porcupine.. sorry can't be definite tho.
Last night we had a fox which is not rare,

(https://i.ibb.co/3Fmxrky/8748974-F-64-B5-4853-BA0-E-C8-C431641-C78.png) (https://ibb.co/3Fmxrky)


I got good video of the fox family a few years ago on 4th of July. Warning , it's 16 minutes long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00jJErAmQnY
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on November 26, 2021, 08:44:57 AM
possum
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: DougG on November 26, 2021, 08:53:35 AM
Hi Foto,                                                                                         11-26-21

Looks like a woodchuck (ground hog).  I have one living under my front porch.

Be well, stay well,
DougG
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: John A on November 26, 2021, 09:15:26 AM
Hi Foto,                                                                                         11-26-21

Looks like a woodchuck (ground hog).  I have one living under my front porch.

Be well, stay well,
DougG


I think it is a woodchuck . Some look like they could be thirty pounds and I see them at night sometimes when I’m out for a ride. They usually don’t dart out but can move quickly if startled .
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: slowmover on November 26, 2021, 09:36:15 AM
Chupacabra
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: drdwb on November 26, 2021, 11:08:24 AM
Thanks for the input.. groundhog are not nocturnal so that's out I think. We do have opossum here but kind of rare so my brother and I are going with porcupine.. sorry can't be definite tho.
Last night we had a fox which is not rare,

(https://i.ibb.co/3Fmxrky/8748974-F-64-B5-4853-BA0-E-C8-C431641-C78.png) (https://ibb.co/3Fmxrky)


I got good video of the fox family a few years ago on 4th of July. Warning , it's 16 minutes long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00jJErAmQnY


Foto maybe some are nocturnal, but neighbors trail cam confirms several late nite visits to my garden by local woodchuck/groundhog. But I haven’t seen any in the winter. You may have a mutant variation how close to the nuclear power plant do you live?
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: pehayes on November 26, 2021, 11:38:11 AM
I'm still on with opossum for this guy and sorry about his lost tail.

First, when in a hurry, a groundhog or woodchuck (Marmota monax) will run or have a gallop gait like a horse.  Two legs at at time.  Watch the squirrels in your local park.  The woodchuck is just a big squirrel.  The opossum (Didelphis virginiana) however almost never runs under any circumstance.  They have a waddling, walking gait just like this one.

Second, a groundhog or woodchuck has feet that are black or brown, covered in fur, and blended directly with its leg fur.  The opossum has distinct white or fleshy naked toes in contrast with its feet.  There are several brief moments in this video where you can see the light-colored feet, especially left front.

The opossum appears very fierce with a long, gaping mouth and many teeth.  They very seldom bite and it is not a particularly strong, crushing bite.  Its just the hissing and gaping that are so fierce.  Watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpGwt_baExk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpGwt_baExk)
or this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USg_QsCfNmk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USg_QsCfNmk)

What you need to know is that scientific genus name, Didelphis.  Derived from Greek.  "Didelphis" means 'two vaginas' because that is how the female anatomy is shaped.  Actually, one bifurcated vagina.  I'll let you guess what the male has for sexual compatibility.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: AJ Huff on November 26, 2021, 12:01:50 PM
Groundhogs have a beaver-like tail. More likely to be a opossum without a tail than a groundhog without a tail.

-AJ
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: John A on November 26, 2021, 12:20:11 PM
Might have to catch it. You have welding gloves….
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: Dukedesmo on November 26, 2021, 12:28:39 PM
How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood...?
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: wrbix on November 26, 2021, 12:33:49 PM
What region was sighting?
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: rocker59 on November 26, 2021, 12:43:38 PM
Porcupine

That's what I'm thinking.
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: wrbix on November 26, 2021, 12:56:55 PM
If in MN, then I’d say porcupine as well
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: TOMB on November 26, 2021, 01:30:59 PM
Around here in Central Connecticut we would probably call it a woodchuck which begs the question how much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood

TOMB
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: yogidozer on November 26, 2021, 01:55:46 PM
As someone already commented, pehayes,  groundhogs/woodchucks hop two feet forward.
Usually out in daytime, rarely at night.
You could set up a 4 trap using an upside down wheelbarrow. Just need to check it as soon as they spring it.
That way you will not hurt the critter and you can get a better look at it.
Or just leave the camera up, maybe you'll get a better view.
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: fotoguzzi on November 26, 2021, 02:21:49 PM
Yes I'm in Minnesota (Scandia) we have had opossum sightings and my dog trapped one under a wheelbarrow, I didn't know what was under until I lifted it up and the possum was hissing and growling and showing teeth, I musta jumped 2 feet while restraining my dog. He waddled off in no kind of hurry. I guess that encounter was better than a porcupine for my dog :boozing:
But I'm still going with the porcupine for now, the camera is always on so maybe he'll come back for another look. Opossum is my second guess, our woodchucks are bigger than what this thing looks like.
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: cliffrod on November 26, 2021, 02:26:22 PM
I'm still on with opossum for this guy and sorry about his lost tail.

First, when in a hurry, a groundhog or woodchuck (Marmota monax) will run or have a gallop gait like a horse.  Two legs at at time.  Watch the squirrels in your local park.  The woodchuck is just a big squirrel.  The opossum (Didelphis virginiana) however almost never runs under any circumstance.  They have a waddling, walking gait just like this one.

Second, a groundhog or woodchuck has feet that are black or brown, covered in fur, and blended directly with its leg fur.  The opossum has distinct white or fleshy naked toes in contrast with its feet.  There are several brief moments in this video where you can see the light-colored feet, especially left front.

The opossum appears very fierce with a long, gaping mouth and many teeth.  They very seldom bite and it is not a particularly strong, crushing bite.  Its just the hissing and gaping that are so fierce.  Watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpGwt_baExk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpGwt_baExk)
or this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USg_QsCfNmk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USg_QsCfNmk)

What you need to know is that scientific genus name, Didelphis.  Derived from Greek.  "Didelphis" means 'two vaginas' because that is how the female anatomy is shaped.  Actually, one bifurcated vagina.  I'll let you guess what the male has for sexual compatibility.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA

Very well said, Patrick. 

My wife has been teaching in the Environmental Education field for decades.  In recent years, after working with them as a rehabilitator, she has settled upon the very understudied and greatly misunderstood Virginia opossums -the only species and only marsupial native to North America-  as ideal for teaching & changing the opinions of young and old.    They're truly amazing animals.

Figured I could post a pic of our possum Mimi sitting on a Guzzi giving a shout out to her friend in the video, but we only got as far as the ottoman in front of me while Christmas lights were being hung.. 


(https://i.ibb.co/rF0LX66/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rF0LX66)



We're all still kind of slacking off after the big eat yesterday...  She liked the chestnut dressing with a little bit of fresh cranberry.
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: jcctx on November 26, 2021, 02:32:17 PM
PORCUPINE~tho not sure of the spelling; my guess anyway! They used to wear us out in west Texas!!!
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: fotoguzzi on November 26, 2021, 02:48:07 PM
I found a few videos on line showing a porcupine walking and they do sorta walk like in my video but also have a distinctive tail that doesn't show in my video so maybe your right it's a possum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6JrjehsnIc
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: Turin on November 26, 2021, 06:23:48 PM
Must have gotten loose again.

(https://i.ibb.co/jDP7pWM/Pet-Flyer-3.png) (https://ibb.co/jDP7pWM)
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: John A on November 26, 2021, 07:37:27 PM
Brad he looks friendly enough, just grab him from behind. If he’s not friendly, toss him in the stewpot. It’ll be easy and mostly safe.
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: fotoguzzi on November 26, 2021, 08:26:26 PM
I could feed it to the monster that lives in our woods.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Monster/i-Wng7sLW/0/819c3813/L/2021112620232443--6476674474934305817-IMG_2837-L.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Monster/i-Wng7sLW/A)
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: slopokes on November 27, 2021, 08:21:16 AM
Looks like the Jersey Devil who is lost….
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: wrbix on November 27, 2021, 03:55:10 PM
Very well said, Patrick. 

My wife has been teaching in the Environmental Education field for decades.  In recent years, after working with them as a rehabilitator, she has settled upon the very understudied and greatly misunderstood Virginia opossums -the only species and only marsupial native to North America-  as ideal for teaching & changing the opinions of young and old.    They're truly amazing animals.

Figured I could post a pic of our possum Mimi sitting on a Guzzi giving a shout out to her friend in the video, but we only got as far as the ottoman in front of me while Christmas lights were being hung.. 


(https://i.ibb.co/rF0LX66/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rF0LX66)



We're all still kind of slacking off after the big eat yesterday...  She liked the chestnut dressing with a little bit of fresh cranberry.
They are cute until you see their teeth. Don’t know why such a docile critter needs such fearsome dentition 
My wife is currently on a traveling  nurse assignment at a hospital as far east in TN as one can get and had a patient's visitor show up with their pet ‘possum in a baby carriage. No one seemed the least bit surprised.
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: fotoguzzi on December 03, 2021, 09:04:23 AM
He's back,

https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Trail-cam/i-X43cg5r/A

Someone please tell me why this clip is not embedded like the first one.  I pasted the same type of link.
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: AJ Huff on December 03, 2021, 10:01:44 AM
I don't see any embedded video, just a link. I don't think that's a feature Luap has ever had turned on.

But I DO SEE a tail this time, more like a ground hog than opossum.

-AJ
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: cliffrod on December 03, 2021, 10:11:00 AM
That is an opossum.  no question. no doubt.

Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: fotoguzzi on December 03, 2021, 10:16:56 AM
I don't see any embedded video, just a link. I don't think that's a feature Luap has ever had turned on.

But I DO SEE a tail this time, more like a ground hog than opossum.

-AJ
the very first page in this thread has an embedded video . But I pasted the same type link here but it’s a link only At least on my devices that first video is embedded
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: yogidozer on December 03, 2021, 10:20:58 AM
Look at the footprints opossum tracks show 5 thinner "fingers"
Groundhogs are more like a smaller dog 4 fingers up front 5 in the rear
Groundhogs kinda hop when the move, opossums kinda waddle
Title: Re: NGC quiz, what animal is this
Post by: AJ Huff on December 03, 2021, 12:01:00 PM
the very first page in this thread has an embedded video . But I pasted the same type link here but it’s a link only At least on my devices that first video is embedded

I don't see an embedded video on any of my devices, phone, tablet, or laptop, all different browsers. I only see a hyperlink to your video.

-AJ