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Can't believe no one has pointed out the real answer ... you need both!!
Charlie, it's worth a LOT; I really appreciate a response from someone with your expertise. Thank you.The V50 is an intriguing bike to be sure. It sounds like this one (and the rest of the fleet) is sort of perpetually for sale:http://www.retrotours.com/1979-Moto-Guzzi-V50-3713/The vibration issue with your Stone gives me pause. If you have time to reply:Where did you feel the vibes? Bars? Pegs? All over? Were they constantly intrusive or just at certain RPM? How did they differ from other Guzzi vibes?Gratefully,Jeff
As a very happy owner of a V9 Bobber Sport I may be biased. ;) But I think you should have a look at the V9 Roamer & Bobber. Great fun and reliable bikes and being a Guzzi......the used one's are priced quite well. I got a Beetle map and Zard pipes and it runs and sounds great. It ran good before the remap but it did make a good improvement and still gets almost 50 MPG.
A V50 III is my pick of the V50s SNIPThe V65SP is probably the best of the early small-blocks sold in the US.
I had a very nice v65sp. Fun bike, but it did feel like a 30 year old bike when compared to any modern SB.Based on your stated wants, I would try to find a nice modern SB, in my opinion, on practically every meaningful way, the new ones are better than the old
V7III seems to fit the bill well. Air cooled engine still feels pretty retro, and new or close to new models can be had at a pretty good discount it seems.
SB = small block.
...The vibration that was hard to live with on my Stone was mostly through the bars. Seemed to be worst at a steady speed - around 55-60 mph, IIRC (it's been two years). Maybe if I had tried heavier bar end weights and other things that normally work, it might have been alleviated. Most likely it just needed a bunch more miles put on it before it finally "broke in".
from the Breva on are really good, fun bikes. And I say this as a dude who stands 6'6"!
I live in Burnsville NC ( 45 miles from Asheville )and just bought a 84 V65 . Earl had this bike at one time I think . I like it. It has 13,000 miles and still has the double valve spring setup so I suppose it still has the crappy valves. I’ll change them at some point when I get some extra cash 🤪
V65 for sure!!! Small and cheap bike..... I have 5 SB and my favorite is the V65.
Greer’s bike would be worth a look ?
The engine vibes on my '17 V7 Stone often annoy me. Getting the rpm up helps, but I don't love micromanaging the gearing. I remapped with a Beetle map, which helped the throttle snatch and cruising surge, but it didn't help the vibes. Although I suspect the map wasn't meant to. I really do love the bike. For me, it's the shortest distance to a gas 'n go 'classic'. I may fiddle with it this summer, maybe slip ons, and another map will change the feel. I really want to keep it.
Thanks, Huzo. Is this a dealer or a member?
Thanks, CB. This is the second mention of vibes being an issue with V7s; something I need to watch for when I take a longer test ride.
A well regarded member.Check out the thread“Another deal ‘21 V7 850”I just bumped it up to the top for you.
If my V7 II vibrated any less, I don't think I'd love it as much as I do. If I wanted ultra smooth, I'd get a Japanese parallel twin. To me, a V-twin--cam shaft below, pushrods and all--means a less "refined" and more pure/raw experience. I want to be reminded every time I ride that I'm on a machine that's been hand-built. The fact that the V85 TT felt so smooth when I test rode it was actually one of my turnoffs.
That said--- THE GUYS SAYING THAT ARE FRIGGING NUTS.
I think you've misspelled, "I've not experienced that"?