10W-60 eni or 20-50 mobil 1

[Chuck in Indiana]

That is because SG is obsolete. Use the Red Line oil of the right viscosity if you want to use RL. The new ratings supersede the old ones.

Sorry, but I respectfully disagree. Oh, sure, I agree that new ratings supersede the old, but SM for instance doesn't have nearly as much ZDDP as SG. Flat tappet engines *need* ZDDP. That is the reason new engines have roller cams. ZDDP doesn't play well with catalytic converters, so it has been (mostly) removed in newer formulations.
Ahh, oil threads.. you gotta love em..

[kirby1923]

Sorry, but I respectfully disagree. Oh, sure, I agree that new ratings supersede the old, but SM for instance doesn't have nearly as much ZDDP as SG. Flat tappet engines *need* ZDDP. That is the reason new engines have roller cams. ZDDP doesn't play well with catalytic converters, so it has been (mostly) removed in newer formulations.
Ahh, oil threads.. you gotta love em..

I totally agree!

As being somewhat versed with engine design (BTDT) and w/ over 280K on my beemer ('04 1150) heed the manual on your moto, if it calls for SG...use it.

I have used dino 20W50 SG the whole time.

In the last 50K miles on my 1150, no tappet adjustment has been required. (Checked every 15K)

ZDDP required if called for. Either buy SG or add ZDDP.

So far 1/2 a QT in 6K used. (normal change point).

:-)

[LowRyter]

my eyes hurt

[slopokes]

So does my finger🤷‍♂️

[Bulldog9]

I just ride till the oil light come on then I add, and if in the mood, I change the oil..... 

[Chuck in Indiana]

I just ride till the oil light come on then I add, and if in the mood, I change the oil..... 

Change the oil? They put that in at the fact trie, boy. Just add some when it gets low. (channeling my old man)

[giusto]

One of my Moto Guzzi owner's manuals recommends Castrol products, and 10W60. 

The Porsche guys really like this oil.  I realize that's German, so you may want to add an eye-dropper of olive oil (extra virgin if you got it) to each quart, if you're planning to put this in your Goose.

This Castrol Edge 10/60 is the what we have locally at my auto parts store....I was seriously considering giving it a shot. Anyone tried it lately?

[Idontwantapickle]

For the benefit of our buddies beyond the equator suffering the effects of winter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2zS8MyvJxU&list=PLjT3B9r2z3fXlvbP3tb9e056Q8O5krrCW&index=2

WARNING: This is rabbit hole, you may not be back for a while!    He has produced a bracketed playoff series of top brands.

Enjoy!

Hunter

[Idontwantapickle]

Personally I like to blend my own because I obviously know what the best oil type/weight for something they manufacture. I use 3 jiggers of 0W-5, a splash if 15W-40 and 2 fingers of 10W-60 to create the  perfect blends of 11-33/64W-56. After doing tons of research (well actually read a couple oil threads) I determined this is the perfect oil weight.

I also use a blend of conventional, semi-synthetic and synthetic to get a semi-conventional oil.

WHAT?!?! 3 jiggers of 0W-5?!?!
You, sir, are off the rails!

[Lannis]

Personally I like to blend my own because I obviously know what the best oil type/weight for something they manufacture. I use 3 jiggers of 0W-5, a splash if 15W-40 and 2 fingers of 10W-60 to create the  perfect blends of 11-33/64W-56. After doing tons of research (well actually read a couple oil threads) I determined this is the perfect oil weight.

I also use a blend of conventional, semi-synthetic and synthetic to get a semi-conventional oil.

I do the same, but finish it up with a test.

What I do is take three identical motorcycles, put a slightly different oil in each, and then run each of them for 100,000 miles under exactly the same conditions (temperature, road conditions, load, and speed).    Each time I change the oil in each of them, I send it off for an analysis (polymer breakdown, metal content, etc), and graph that information.

At 100,000 miles, I strip the motors down, mike each wear area (cylinder-to-piston clearance, bearing clearances, cam followers, rockers) and compare to see which oil has been most effective in reducing wear.

This takes a while and is sort of expensive, so I really just ride my bike and post "I use oil X and my motor seems to run fine."   This is always a definitive data point that really shuts down the nay-sayers on any oil thread!

Lannis

[giusto]

WHAT?!?! 3 jiggers of 0W-5?!?!
You, sir, are off the rails!

Sounds more like a good Negroni recipe
lol...Hunter...look ing forward to the Norge trunk...Thanks

[Bulldog9]

Personally I like to blend my own because I obviously know what the best oil type/weight for something they manufacture. I use 3 jiggers of 0W-5, a splash if 15W-40 and 2 fingers of 10W-60 to create the  perfect blends of 11-33/64W-56. After doing tons of research (well actually read a couple oil threads) I determined this is the perfect oil weight.

I also use a blend of conventional, semi-synthetic and synthetic to get a semi-conventional oil.

What!?!? No EXTRA virgin olive oil? Rookie...  😁

[LowRyter]

Personally I like to blend my own because I obviously know what the best oil type/weight for something they manufacture. I use 3 jiggers of 0W-5, a splash if 15W-40 and 2 fingers of 10W-60 to create the  perfect blends of 11-33/64W-56. After doing tons of research (well actually read a couple oil threads) I determined this is the perfect oil weight.

I also use a blend of conventional, semi-synthetic and synthetic to get a semi-conventional oil.

perhaps the most rationale post in this thread.  A real connoisseur.