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Title: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: SLDMRossi on November 26, 2022, 09:45:02 AM
https://www.motorcycle.com/new-model-preview/2023-moto-guzzi-v9-bobber-special-edition-first-look.html

SR
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: JJ on November 26, 2022, 09:57:34 AM
That's one nice looking modern Moto Guzzi!! :thumb: :boozing: :bow: :cool: :smiley: :thumb:


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Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: guzzisteve on November 26, 2022, 10:18:33 AM
Looks like an old Honda tank, better looking.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Vagrant on November 26, 2022, 02:49:16 PM
But did they make the gas tank bigger.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: bad Chad on November 26, 2022, 04:16:08 PM
Looks like an old Honda tank, better looking.

What Honda tank?  I’ll concede a similarity to the Triumph Hurricane tank, but Honda?

No they didn’t make it bigger, nor do they need to.  The bike isn’t aimed at the huge mile munching crowd, though as someone who has road v9 for thousands of miles a crack, it will happily do so. The tank as it is, is good for a hair under 200 miles, maybe even two hundred, I didn’t want to run out so I can’t say exactly. But 48 to 55 mpg gets one right up there with a 4 gallon tank.

But I’ll give you, if you’re crossing the American south west and don’t want to pay attention to when you last bought gas, a v7 would be a better fit,  But even then, 7 gallons will leave you stranded if you don’t pay attention.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: guzzisteve on November 26, 2022, 05:35:14 PM
This tank look the same?


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Or this one looks identical

https://www.moto-data.net/honda/cl-350-1968-1969

 
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: s1120 on November 27, 2022, 06:18:01 AM
I could never really get past the tank on the V9's so I do like that. Ive not ever ridden one, but did sit on one. At 6'3" tall and 250 lbs, it felt like a good size. Not as big as my cali stone, but bigger then the V7. Wonder if the tank will move over the the other V9 models, if they have any.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: bad Chad on November 27, 2022, 06:25:18 AM
Are you guys high?

It’s the same v9 tank they started with!

Paint doesn’t actually change the molecular structure off steel.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: kballowe on November 27, 2022, 07:17:56 AM
Are you guys high?

It’s the same v9 tank they started with!

Paint doesn’t actually change the molecular structure off steel.

^^^^ this  ^^^^
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: kballowe on November 27, 2022, 07:19:26 AM
I sometimes have a hard time keeping up, and certainly have not been paying attention - but do the latest V7's and the V9's share the same powertrain ?
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: s1120 on November 27, 2022, 09:51:58 AM
Are you guys high?

It’s the same v9 tank they started with!

Paint doesn’t actually change the molecular structure off steel.

Is it really? Im guessing the colors, and angle of the pictures look like its a different tank. Not the first time my eyes have played tricks on me. Thought it was strange to change it at such a late date in the models life span.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: aproud1 on November 27, 2022, 11:20:44 AM
I sometimes have a hard time keeping up, and certainly have not been paying attention - but do the latest V7's and the V9's share the same powertrain ?

Same powertrain,  but guzzi specs the V9 as hitting peak torque at 5000 rpm fwiw. Lower than the V7 @ 6800 rpm.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Guzzidad on November 27, 2022, 06:04:38 PM
 I test rode a Bobber a couple of years ago and I really liked it. I especially liked the Bobber Sport with the Ohlins suspension. But then I got back on my 02 Cali Special Sport to go home and I realized just how similar they are. I'ld love to have a new bike but I'll just keep my big block.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Juan1 on November 29, 2022, 03:26:30 PM
Are you guys high?

It’s the same v9 tank they started with!

Paint doesn’t actually change the molecular structure off steel.

You assume they aren't putting uranium in the paint. 
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: JJ on November 29, 2022, 03:51:21 PM
QUOTE:  What Honda tank?  I’ll concede a similarity to the Triumph Hurricane tank, but Honda?

C'mon now...the iconic and legendary Triumph Hurricane!! :thumb: :bow: :cool: :boozing: :smiley: :wink:


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Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Juan1 on November 29, 2022, 03:57:11 PM
The V9 joins the list of Guzzi's that don't make sense to me, like the Griso, and I owned a Tenni green Griso. I fail to see the market for the V9 even if I like it. The market for the V9 seems to be this: those that will pay a premium for a beautiful, old-looking, slow and light motorcycle with shaft drive, but don't want the better looking V7. Best case scenario the V9 eats into V7 sales.  Worst case scenario the V7 eats into V9 sales.

Fun fact: in 2021 Honda sold about 100x more new motorcycles in North America than Moto Guzzi did. 
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Guzzidad on November 29, 2022, 07:52:03 PM
The V9 joins the list of Guzzi's that don't make sense to me, like the Griso, and I owned a Tenni green Griso. I fail to see the market for the V9 even if I like it. The market for the V9 seems to be this: those that will pay a premium for a beautiful, old-looking, slow and light motorcycle with shaft drive, but don't want the better looking V7.

    I personally don't consider the V9s or V7s old looking, or slow. They are classically styled bikes with excellent build quality. Not like these modern insectoid looking bikes from some of their competitors. Ya, they're not the fastest bike in the neighborhood but they are deceptively quick. They aren't track bikes but you'll never be left behind on regular street  riding. Long distance interstate travel isn't their forte. Best to stick to state highways and B roads.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Guzzistajohn on November 29, 2022, 08:03:21 PM
Well, it's not as ugly as the Navada or that gawd awful strato-batman what the **** ever  :grin:
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: bad Chad on November 29, 2022, 08:06:37 PM
Long distance interstates are perfectly fine on a v9.    I agree, they aren't purpose built to eat interstate in the way a Goldwing or similar is.    However, they are purposely built to do just about everything well enough (I assume the v7 850s are too).   I have traveled hundreds of miles a crack, on the slab, on my v9, and it was perfectly happy, and so was I.    One caveat, I did upgrade the suspension, which made it a much better bike, in my opinion.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: bad Chad on November 29, 2022, 08:09:49 PM
I don't know man, are you sure you want to say that?

There are plenty of folks on this board who own and really like their MGx and Nevada's.       I mean, if we were sitting around a camp fire, with a group and there were a couple Nevada riders there, would you still say that out loud?
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Guzzistajohn on November 29, 2022, 08:27:05 PM
I don't know man, are you sure you want to say that?

There are plenty of folks on this board who own and really like their MGx and Nevada's.       I mean, if we were sitting around a camp fire, with a group and there were a couple Nevada riders there, would you still say that out loud?

Absolutely!  And I'm still looking foreword to naming my next polyp after you.  :thumb: :laugh:
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Kev m on November 30, 2022, 06:43:44 AM
The V9 joins the list of Guzzi's that don't make sense to me, like the Griso, and I owned a Tenni green Griso. I fail to see the market for the V9 even if I like it. The market for the V9 seems to be this: those that will pay a premium for a beautiful, old-looking, slow and light motorcycle with shaft drive, but don't want the better looking V7. Best case scenario the V9 eats into V7 sales.  Worst case scenario the V7 eats into V9 sales.

Fun fact: in 2021 Honda sold about 100x more new motorcycles in North America than Moto Guzzi did.

1. Guzzis don't make sense in a mass marketing McDonald's kinda way - that's why most of us are here.

2. "premium" - ? - Really, I bought 3 of my 4 at a pretty steep discount, but even then if I compared the MSRP to other brands they were always competitive.

3. The subjective "old-looking" or "slow" is just that, subjective and relative and well, again since similar to competition mostly irrelevant. The look and feel and other characteristics are what attract those who buy.

4. The Honda comment is just completely irrelevant. I don't think even Piaggio has any intention of Guzzi being a Honda. Who gives a crap what Honda sells? It's once a decade that they build ANYTHING that even remotely interests me and they've never seen a dime of my money on a new bike. Vive la difference

And seriously if I wasn't at max occupancy on the garage I'd have bought a V9 by now. It IS different from the V7 in ergos and it WAS different in engine feel (that might be changed I haven't ridden the EU5 version of the 9 yet, but the earlier version was BETTER than the V7 for me).

Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: kingoffleece on November 30, 2022, 07:53:47 AM
Just a bit of prospective:  several years ado when the V9 came out it was ion direct response from the English importers who convinced Guzzi to make that bike and motor combo-this is according to both BIKE and MSL (Motorcycle Sport and Leisure) British publications.

Most of you lads realize our own M Herson scribes for one of those-correct?  Monthly.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Kev m on November 30, 2022, 08:07:18 AM
Most of you lads realize our own M Herson scribes for one of those-correct?  Monthly.

And rides a MKI V7 Special that used to belong to Cam...
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: blu guzz on November 30, 2022, 08:11:02 AM
Kev:  That is a great perspective and explains the Guzzi lover very well.  You can get a 20 year old big 4 600 4 cylinder with 100hp or more for a few thousand dollars.  That bike would certainly out perform any guzzi on the spec sheet.  But, as you said, we are here for something that you don't see coming at you in the other lane very often.  I find it is always fun on that rare occasion to pull into a place where there is another Guzzi.  We always find each other pretty fast.  As to reliability, my 2015 and this 2020 have been very reliable, better than some other better known brands I have owned.  Yes "viva la difference."
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Huzo on November 30, 2022, 10:06:09 AM
Are you guys high?

It’s the same v9 tank they started with!

Paint doesn’t actually change the molecular structure off steel.
I fell for the same thing, I really thought it was not the same tank.
Although strikingly similar, I thought it was a bit different around the front and slightly more bulbous. I’ll defer to your  greater knowledge though Chad, since you actually have spent more time with a V9 than me.
Also you are totally correct, the paint does not change the molecular construction off the steel, but I think the respondents were referring more to the apparent shape.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: twowheeladdict on November 30, 2022, 10:53:05 AM
Wishing I would have bought a V9 sport when I had the chance.  Didn't have the cash at the time and was not willing to part with anything. 
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: guzzisteve on November 30, 2022, 11:15:22 AM
The picture is deceiving as light & being a copy you cant see the sharp ridge on the tank. Sorry if I peed in your corn flakes Chad.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: SIR REAL ED on November 30, 2022, 06:30:43 PM
https://www.motorcycle.com/new-model-preview/2023-moto-guzzi-v9-bobber-special-edition-first-look.html

SR

I would like to see how that bike looks with shocks that are 2-3" longer.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Milosh on December 01, 2022, 06:15:47 PM
1. Guzzis don't make sense in a mass marketing McDonald's kinda way - that's why most of us are here.

2. "premium" - ? - Really, I bought 3 of my 4 at a pretty steep discount, but even then if I compared the MSRP to other brands they were always competitive.

3. The subjective "old-looking" or "slow" is just that, subjective and relative and well, again since similar to competition mostly irrelevant. The look and feel and other characteristics are what attract those who buy.

4. The Honda comment is just completely irrelevant. I don't think even Piaggio has any intention of Guzzi being a Honda. Who gives a crap what Honda sells? It's once a decade that they build ANYTHING that even remotely interests me and they've never seen a dime of my money on a new bike. Vive la difference

And seriously if I wasn't at max occupancy on the garage I'd have bought a V9 by now. It IS different from the V7 in ergos and it WAS different in engine feel (that might be changed I haven't ridden the EU5 version of the 9 yet, but the earlier version was BETTER than the V7 for me).

Agree 100%. I bought a V9 because I think the V7 looks bland. The V9 also seems to have a different power curve having ridden both back to back before purchasing a couple years back. You can put miles on the V9. Hell, as ADVRider shows, you can put miles on anything. I've done multiple day trips and my plan is to do two in 2023, especially now that I have HB bags.

People don't cross shop Honda when buying a Moto Guzzi. I didn't.

I also don't get the suspension comments; I've taken mine through some twisties and so long as you keep the momentum up, it does quite well.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Juan1 on December 02, 2022, 01:20:48 AM
The Honda comment wasn't meant as a MG diss.  I've owned more Guzzis than Hondas by choice.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Bpreynolds2 on December 02, 2022, 05:29:16 AM
Still my favorite Guzzi I’ve owned among 12 or more.  In person the tank is a work of art to me.  You can have your book, I don’t give a shite, but in mine it’s still gorgeous and the best looking Goose I’ve ever owned.  It also, oddly, got the best mpg even (for me) over my 3 other V7 models which all got great mpg anyhow; thus, the small tank still got me plenty enough miles even while touring.  I need a break anyhow after about 150 or so.


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Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: twowheeladdict on December 02, 2022, 07:02:01 AM
Wow!  A V9 bobber thread went longer than I imagined. 
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Juan1 on December 02, 2022, 10:04:29 AM
In person the tank is a work of art to me.

(https://i.ibb.co/mzbXZfc/DFE452-ED-E5-B0-4-CA9-843-B-72-FA45864-AD3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mzbXZfc)

Agreed.  I liked the Roamer.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: bad Chad on December 02, 2022, 12:29:53 PM
This is my longish haul set up.  I really like it.

(https://i.ibb.co/MBXPBxh/IMG-6757.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MBXPBxh)
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Milosh on December 02, 2022, 06:05:06 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/DMTFmzz/WP-20190609-12-27-56-Pro.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DMTFmzz)


This is my longish haul set up too. No top box.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: bad Chad on December 02, 2022, 06:36:37 PM
Mucho nice!
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: DaSwami on December 06, 2022, 08:45:39 AM
I'm still mad Guzzi did not import the beautiful green Roamer to the states a few years back, I was 100% buying one


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Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: bad Chad on December 06, 2022, 09:28:17 AM
The Green is way cool, but my favorite is the Red.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Calculon on December 06, 2022, 10:50:50 PM
What ever happened the V9 Roamer?  Did it go into the Witness Protection Program?  It's too bad as it was the most comfortable motorcycle I ever sat on, at least as much as one could tell from a few minutes.  I almost bought one from Enzo at Cadre, but it wasn't meant to be.  I always thought a mashup of the two, blacked out look of the Bobber with the seating position of the Roamer, would be ideal.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Kev m on December 07, 2022, 06:12:36 AM
What ever happened the V9 Roamer?  Did it go into the Witness Protection Program?  It's too bad as it was the most comfortable motorcycle I ever sat on, at least as much as one could tell from a few minutes.  I almost bought one from Enzo at Cadre, but it wasn't meant to be.  I always thought a mashup of the two, blacked out look of the Bobber with the seating position of the Roamer, would be ideal.

What's the ergonomic difference between the Bobber and the Roamer... I thought it was just tire?
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: blu guzz on December 07, 2022, 07:11:19 AM
I guess it didn't sell as well as the Bobber.  I remember reading a few comparisons when they first came out that said "in spite of" the bigger front tire, most of the reviewers seemed to prefer the Bobber but I can't remember why. May be faulty memory, but in any case, if it was selling well, it would surely still be on the floor.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Alfetta on December 07, 2022, 08:01:38 AM
What ever happened the V9 Roamer?  Did it go into the Witness Protection Program?  It's too bad as it was the most comfortable motorcycle I ever sat on, at least as much as one could tell from a few minutes.  I almost bought one from Enzo at Cadre, but it wasn't meant to be.  I always thought a mashup of the two, blacked out look of the Bobber with the seating position of the Roamer, would be ideal.

I went to my "local" Guzzi guy to purchase a V9 Romer, but he only had a couple of Bobbers in stock. I ended up buying a V7 Special as it was the ONLY bike in stock that had Chrome...  I guess that im just from a generation that prefers chrome over matt black...
I don't know why MG killed the roamer other than slow sales, and as it looks to me like the Bobber is intended for the "butch cruiser" market, perhaps the Romer was just too elegant ???

If you have one, hang on to it,  it may end up being that rare collector model 25 years from now..
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Calculon on December 07, 2022, 08:49:51 AM
I think they're basically the same bike.  The front tire on the Roamer is skinnier and larger.  The Roamer is chromier while the Bobber is blacked out.  I think the handlebars are more pulled back on the Roamer, but the Bobber has dragstyle bars.  Not much really.  I liked the Roamer better, but would prefer have it blacked out like the Bobber.  Of course that's only one mans opinion.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Moparnut72 on December 07, 2022, 09:14:36 AM
I went to my "local" Guzzi guy to purchase a V9 Romer, but he only had a couple of Bobbers in stock. I ended up buying a V7 Special as it was the ONLY bike in stock that had Chrome...  I guess that im just from a generation that prefers chrome over matt black...
I don't know why MG killed the roamer other than slow sales, and as it looks to me like the Bobber is intended for the "butch cruiser" market, perhaps the Romer was just too elegant ???

If you have one, hang on to it,  it may end up being that rare collector model 25 years from now..
I could have written this. I too was very interested in a Roamer but the nearest one I could find was 650 miles away. Too far to go to even see if it was something I would like let alone buy. I "settled" for a V7. The Special was the one for me, chrome and twin clocks. Funny thing less than a month later a used Roamer turned up a couple of hours away. I was interested because I had an Audace which was going to eventually become too much for me. I thought the Roamer might be just right to be able to tour on. I know people tour on V7s but as much as I like mine it isn't something I would want to ride long distances. The Audace is gone, a Bonneville has taken it's place.
kk
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: blu guzz on December 07, 2022, 11:10:37 AM
While the Bobber has soldiered on, the Roamers will all have the earlier E4 engine as will the older Bobbers out there.  I really loved that engine when I rode one.  More horsepower and torque than the V7 III of the time (a nice step up) less than the current V7-850, but in my opinion, an engine that you can do more  modifying if you want.  Many also commented that it felt more like an old Guzzi engine.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: bad Chad on December 07, 2022, 12:45:42 PM
The Roamer was a sales flop in North America, it is still being manufactured for more enlightened markets throughout the rest of the planet.   

As such, I was able to buy a brand new 2017 at the end of 2019 for the stunningly low price of $5500 from Cadre, I should have bought an extra for that price!
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Bulldog9 on December 07, 2022, 12:58:23 PM
I really like the progressive improvements to
The V9. The larger seat and subtle paint and footpeg placements make it more and more attractive.

As for the 4 gallon tank and 200 mile range, that's really not an issue (for me at least). But what do I know, I only rode a 79 XS1100 with a 120 mile range on a good day for over 120k miles all across North America, and 5-6 IBA runs in the 90's. Was stopping every 45-50 minutes and draining the tank in 90 mile increments.... LoL in more sedate long distance riding the 120 mile stops kept me fresh. Besides the V 9 and 7 though capable are not really intended for trans continental traversing

Ill likely never own a V9 but I really liked the Bobber Sport and this new model.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Griso8V on December 07, 2022, 02:43:28 PM
Nice looking bike! 
I am enjoying my V7 850...can't wait to go on a nice long weekend trip with it.  So far it has more than enough power for me.  Will see when I take it over the Sierra Nevada's how it does...
Tony C
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Calculon on December 07, 2022, 03:40:25 PM
The Roamer was a sales flop in North America

That's because they didn't offer the best color combo over here:


(https://i.postimg.cc/8FpF6D6z/MGV9R.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8FpF6D6z)


A blacked out version of that would have looked amazing in my opinion.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: DaSwami on December 07, 2022, 06:43:11 PM
I'm an old school chrome guy myself....black =  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Moparnut72 on December 07, 2022, 07:57:44 PM
That's because they didn't offer the best color combo over here:


(https://i.postimg.cc/8FpF6D6z/MGV9R.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8FpF6D6z)


A blacked out version of that would have looked amazing in my opinion.

That version is beautiful.
kk
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: bacongrease on December 07, 2022, 09:48:08 PM

   I occasionally pine for a new Guzzi
then I come to my senses.

 :popcorn:

Keep the 04 Stone.   :bike-037:
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: chuck peterson on December 08, 2022, 01:21:41 AM
Well, it's not as ugly as the Navada or that gawd awful strato-batman what the **** ever  :grin:

I draw a straight line of development, and looks between the

1970’s V65c..650cc
The 80-90-00-10 Nevada’s …750cc
And the Roamer…850cc
Each has a slight chopper-ish look with longer front legs and a fatter 16” rear wheel. The upright seating helps older hips, too

Yet the circumference of the two tires is made similar by the height of the rear tire, making the ride quite similar to the more standard v7. I’d suggest a Nevada could make a great cafe bike with lowering the forks, clip ons and a bump seat. You’d be lowering the center of gravity compared to a v7


The Roamer was a “best seller “ to quote a dealer, “that they took away “. I agree it looks quite good. Decent shield and bags and send it…

My Navada with narrower lower bars and plastic chrome stripped, painted matt white, white front fender. I think I imitated a police loop frame, but from the department of traffic and parking


(https://i.ibb.co/6Ynt5mY/AA76189-A-9-A6-D-40-E1-ACD7-472-D094-FFFB4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6Ynt5mY)


Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: vf84pc on December 08, 2022, 03:56:33 AM
I liked the looks of the Roamer, but the 19" front wheel put me off. I've never sat on one or driven one, I may like it and decide to change from my V7.
The Bobber style is all the rage now but what does the Balloon tire do for the bike?
 My 2015 V7 does not like the Route 90 West at 75 Plus miles per hour. It will do it no problem but prefers the Back roads and so do I. I think the 850 Roamer may do slightly better on the Highway but if I wanted to do that, I would buy a Wing.
I was out riding and stopped for a rest at a restaurant that was packed with HD's When I returned after my "Rest break" my bike had a crowd of people around it wanting to know "how long it took to restore" Do I get parts from swap meets or ebay. They liked the looks but thought the company went belly up in the 70's
Moto Guzzi is a Niche brand compared to Honda and HD is a "Life Style" brand. But if Piaggio wants to continue to make Moto Guzzi's they need to sell bikes and the dealers said send Bobbers not Roamers. Anybody have a good Bobber to Roamer comparison?
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on December 08, 2022, 07:19:26 AM
I havent found the V9 to be very appealing in general, but to my eye this is the best variant they have released so for. Looks sharp.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: bad Chad on December 08, 2022, 04:34:39 PM
That's interesting Chuck, what dealer told you that?   That dealer was, as far as I can ascertain , the exception to the rule.  Even in other markets, I don't believe the Roamer is a Hot seller.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Bpreynolds2 on December 17, 2022, 09:16:34 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/DMTFmzz/WP-20190609-12-27-56-Pro.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DMTFmzz)


This is my longish haul set up too. No top box.

 :thumb: Very sharp.

Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Speciality on December 18, 2022, 03:08:57 AM
The Roamer didn’t sell at all well in the UK either. Unlike the Bobber we never had the E5 version of the Roamer. I’d say the V7 850 Stone is the biggest seller, followed by the Special, with the Bobber trailing some way behind. Decent low mileage used versions of the Bobber and Roamer are available. Personally I don’t care much for either; I much prefer my Special but we all have different tastes. My brother bought a new Roamer in 2019 but didn’t keep it long, switching to a Royal Enfield Interceptor.
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: TalbotMatra on December 25, 2022, 09:54:36 AM
Not only is the V9 the most beautiful Guzzi, but the engine of the first series is certainly one of the best and most sophisticated. When I saw the V9 Bobber for the first time at the dealer, I knew that this would be my bike.  :drool:

Ciao
Lars


(https://i.ibb.co/pQpj1KX/ED77-D83-E-85-FE-4-D6-C-90-CF-D174-C739-EEBE.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pQpj1KX)
Title: Re: 2023 V9 Bobber SE...
Post by: Zenermaniac on December 25, 2022, 07:10:24 PM
I'm still mad Guzzi did not import the beautiful green Roamer to the states a few years back, I was 100% buying one


(https://i.ibb.co/k9gTsYd/Untitled.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k9gTsYd)


Wow! Love that green. If I ever repaint my Roamer I’ll have to consider it.